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Dynasty Talk

Every time the crew has declared a team a dynasty, questioned dynasty status, or debated what qualifies — from the Patriots to the Chiefs.

42 takes

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Take Slip·Oct 21, 2016
#PMT-2016-1021-7061
Big CatBig Cat

The Minnesota Lynx are an 'odd-year' dynasty

Are the Lynx still considered a dynasty, or was this their dynasty year because they won in 2011? 13, 15, people forget, odd year Lynx.

The Lynx won championships in 2011, 2013, 2015, and eventually 2017, confirming the odd-year pattern.
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Take Slip·Jan 20, 2017
#PMT-2017-0120-16334
Dave DameshekDave Dameshek

The Steelers are the most beloved dynasty in American sports history

Is there any doubt that the Pittsburgh Steelers are the most beloved dynasty in American sports history? I don't think Belichick and Brady... they're not going to stack up with the Pittsburgh Steelers in terms of the affection that our football nation has for the black and gold.

This is entirely subjective, but most national polls would favor teams like the 90s Bulls or Cowboys in terms of 'beloved' status over the Steelers.
Win
Take Slip·Mar 13, 2017
#PMT-2017-0313-11703
Brent MusburgerBrent Musburger

Stop talking about a Chicago Cubs dynasty; they've only won one World Series

Stop with this dynasty talk. Okay? The dynasty is happening. The dynasty is on. Red Sox fans became insufferable, and now it's the Cub fans... Just get in the tournament, win a game, and get back to me. You've never been in the tournament [Northwestern]. Do something.

Musburger was correct. The Cubs did not win another World Series with that core and failed to establish a dynasty.
Void
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Somali Pirates are a dynasty

My cool throne Somali Pirates. They robbed a ship for the first time in five years. Hell yes. So they are back. Is it fair to say the Somali Pirates are a dynasty now?

The term 'dynasty' is subjective and here applied to a criminal group for comedic effect.
Void
Take Slip·Apr 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0424-5792
Big CatBig Cat

A sports dynasty requires at least three championships in one era

The rule I said, I threw out there was you have to have at least three championships in your Dynasty era. Two, that's a really good team. Three, you can now claim Dynasty.

The definition of a dynasty is inherently subjective and varies by sport and analyst.
Void
Take Slip·Apr 24, 2017
#PMT-2017-0424-5793
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 1990s Atlanta Braves are a dynasty with an asterisk

The exception to this rule is if you play in a conference that you dominate for a long time but then keep getting your ass kicked in the finals. So I'll give you an example. I would say the Atlanta Braves 1990s team is a dynasty with an asterisk on it.

Subjective historical analysis of a specific era of MLB.
Push
Take Slip·Nov 1, 2017
#PMT-2017-1101-18955
Big CatBig Cat

The Jimmy Garoppolo trade is the beginning of the end for the Patriots dynasty

This started a chain of events that is going to end the Patriots dynasty... Belichick was basically cut out of this, right? So Belichick's pissed... and then he's going to resign. Okay. And then that's the end of it.

While the dynasty continued for two more Super Bowl appearances and one win (Super Bowl LIII), the Garoppolo trade is cited by many (including the book 'The Dynasty') as the moment the relationship between Belichick and Kraft/Brady fractured permanently.
Loss
Take Slip·Jun 8, 2018
#PMT-2018-0608-8548
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals dynasty has already begun

The dynasty has already begun.

The Capitals did not win another Stanley Cup in the following seasons, failing to form a dynasty.
Loss
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Washington Capitals run was a dynasty

The Washington Capitals. So the Caps year wins year of the year. Truly a magical run. A dynasty. Maybe the best hockey team of all time ever assembled. Great coaching, great executing, great fans.

Hot TakeHockeyHotSarcastic
The Capitals won only one Stanley Cup (2018) in that era, which does not meet the standard definition of a sports dynasty.
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Take Slip·Sep 4, 2018
#PMT-2018-0904-18264
Big CatBig Cat

The Khalil Mack trade marks the beginning of a Bears dynasty

The Bears are back... The best trade that's ever been traded. I'm thinking like maybe even when the Cowboys did that trade with the Vikings, this is going to be the start of a dynasty.

The 2018 Bears did win the NFC North and go 12-4, but they lost in the Wild Card round (Double Doink) and failed to establish anything resembling a dynasty.
Void
Take Slip·Mar 11, 2019
#PMT-2019-0311-13039
Big CatBig Cat

The Steelers with Bell and Brown were the greatest fake dynasty of all time

Can we say the Steelers had the greatest fake dynasty of all time with Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown? Yeah, and at various points they had the best wide receiver, best running back, and a top five quarterback all at the same time and won absolutely zilch.

They never reached a Super Bowl with the 'Killer Bs' era despite elite statistical production.
Push
#PMT-2019-0313-17785
Big CatBig Cat

This is the end of the Golden State Warriors dynasty

The Warriors are on the hot seat because the Warriors are breaking up... Steve Kerr is sick of Draymond's shit. Now, I don't know if that was actually what he was talking about, but it's clear the Warriors have... I feel like this is it. This is it. This is the end. Don't you?

The Warriors lost the 2019 Finals and Kevin Durant left, ending that specific era, but the 'dynasty' arguably continued as they won the championship in 2022.
Win
Take Slip·Apr 19, 2019
#PMT-2019-0419-194
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots dynasty is officially over

This is the year that the Patriots dynasty is officially over. This is the end. This is the end. It's got to be the end. This is the end. I can smell it.

The Patriots went 12-4 in 2019 but lost in the Wild Card round, and Tom Brady left for Tampa Bay the following offseason, effectively ending the 20-year dynasty.
Push
Take Slip·Apr 26, 2019
#PMT-2019-0426-19889
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

This is the final year of the Golden State Warriors dynasty

This is the end of the Warriors. Like this is their last run. They either win the title this year and go off as three in a row, all that shit, or they lose and everyone goes their other way and hates each other.

The Warriors lost the 2019 Finals and Kevin Durant left for the Nets, ending that specific era, though the core won again in 2022.
Push
#PMT-2019-0610-19488
Big CatBig Cat

Dynasties end with a whimper, and the Warriors are currently in that stage

Whenever a dynasty ends, you just sit there being like... Oh, they're going to turn it on. It's going to happen. And it just doesn't. History shows that it's probably more likely the Raptors will finish them off on Monday night.

The Warriors lost the series (dynasty ended), but the Raptors did not finish them on Monday; the series went to Game 6.
Loss
Take Slip·Jan 6, 2020
#PMT-2020-0106-4832
HankHank

The Patriots dynasty is not over despite losing to the Titans

The season is finished. The dynasty is not done. ... I don't see Brady going anywhere else. I understand that it's the first time in his career he can do whatever he wants, but realistically, it's one of those things where you can do whatever you want, but you don't want to leave your job.

Tom Brady left the Patriots for the Buccaneers in March 2020, and the Patriots failed to win another Super Bowl in the post-Brady era, effectively ending the dynasty.
Push
Take Slip·Apr 15, 2020
#PMT-2020-0415-5361
Kendrick PerkinsKendrick Perkins

Mark Jackson deserves more credit than Steve Kerr for the Warriors dynasty

Mark Jackson built that coach over there. Mark Jackson is on record calling the Splash Brothers the Splash Brothers. He's on record talking noise saying 'I got the best two shooters in the world.' Steve Kerr just happened to see the stroke go right.

While Jackson laid groundwork, Kerr's offensive overhaul is widely credited by the players and analysts for unlocking their championship ceiling.
Void
Take Slip·Apr 20, 2020
#PMT-2020-0420-14033
Big CatBig Cat

Jerry Krause deserves credit for the Bulls dynasty but his ego was a detriment

Krauss deserved more credit than he got but wanted more credit than he deserved. So he's constantly stuck in that spot where he is like I should be getting more credit and he probably in a weird way should but he wanted so much credit that it then became a detriment and a galvanizing force for those Bulls teams to be like, fuck you dude.

The take is a subjective evaluation of historical sports figures, generally aligned with the consensus of the documentary's portrayal.
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Take Slip·Jan 25, 2021
#PMT-2021-0125-5209
Big CatBig Cat

Three Super Bowl titles is the threshold for a dynasty

I think dynasty is always three of four or three in a row. You need to win three titles to have official claim of a dynasty or decade. I think that's fair.

Subjective definition of a sports term.
Push
Take Slip·Oct 27, 2021
#PMT-2021-1027-7726
Big CatBig Cat

The Clemson dynasty is officially dead and Dabo Swinney is a system coach

Clemson is officially—is the dynasty over? Clemson is dead. The dynasty's dead. Dabo was a system coach. He can't do it without an elite quarterback. He can't do it without Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence.

Clemson made the 2024-25 expanded CFP as ACC champions but lost to Texas. Dabo has not returned to the national championship game since this take, though 'system coach' remains debatable.
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2021·Picks
#PMT-2021-1105-16726
HankHank

Tom Brady killed the Chiefs dynasty before it even started

The Chiefs are so bad... Tom Brady killed the Chiefs. I think not enough people are talking about it. He ended their dynasty. It wasn't really a dynasty, though... He snuffed out, he traveled back in time, baby Hitler'd the Chiefs dynasty.

While Brady did beat them in 2021, the Chiefs went on to win two more Super Bowls (LVII, LVIII) and appeared in a third straight (LIX, lost to Eagles). Their dynasty was very much alive.
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Take Slip·Jan 31, 2022
#PMT-2022-0131-19206
HankHank

The Chiefs missed their window to be a dominant dynasty

When you start to lose a lot or you don't win what you're expected to. When I get there, like what you were saying, they're going to, they're not going to be the same dominant chiefs for over and over and over and over and over again, they have to change. Like they're missing their window. Their window missed.

The Chiefs won the Super Bowl the very next season (2022), repeated in 2023, and made a third straight appearance in 2024 (losing to the Eagles). Their window was wide open.
Void
Take Slip·May 13, 2022
#PMT-2022-0513-6681
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the Capitals win this Stanley Cup and the next, they are officially a dynasty

I did say when they were up three, nothing. I was like, if we win this Stanley cup and the next Stanley cup, does that count as a dynasty taking into account the 2018 Stanley cup that they have?

The Capitals lost in the first round in 2022, so the condition was never met.
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Take Slip·May 27, 2022
#PMT-2022-0527-12103
Tracy McGradyTracy McGrady

If Grant Hill had stayed healthy, we would have created a dynasty in Orlando

If Grant Hill was healthy... I make it to the NBA finals with the Orlando Magic. We would have created a dynasty for sure.

The 2000s Magic were consistently derailed by Grant Hill's ankle injuries, but 'dynasty' is an unprovable high bar.
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Take Slip·Jun 27, 2022
#PMT-2022-0627-1110
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A sports dynasty requires winning three championships in five years

What's it? Dynasty? Three, three and [five]. I agree. Seems right to me. Yeah.

The definition of a sports dynasty is inherently subjective.
Win
Take Slip·Oct 19, 2022
#PMT-2022-1019-15346
Andy StaplesAndy Staples

Alabama's dynasty isn't dead, but NIL and depth issues have made them beatable

I don't think it's dead... but what I do think has happened, I blame Kirby Smart for a lot of it. Kirby Smart's been at Georgia now since 2016 and every year he's been there, he's sheared off a few guys that would've signed with Alabama... If you sign 20 of those guys a year instead of 25... your depth suffers.

Alabama missed the playoff in 2022 and struggled in several close games, supporting the 'beatable' thesis.
Push
Take Slip·Nov 2, 2022
#PMT-2022-1102-3175
Michael IrvinMichael Irvin

The Philadelphia Eagles are headed toward a dynasty

I was the first one to say that Philly is headed towards Dynasty. That's what I said this summer in Philly... if they had the right hand on the stairwell and the right hand on the center, if these hands work out, they can be doing something for quite a while.

The Eagles won Super Bowl LIX, beating the Chiefs 40-22 — their second Super Bowl appearance in three years. Not a dynasty yet, but trending in that direction.
Void
Take Slip·Jan 11, 2023
#PMT-2023-0111-9194
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Two college football championships in a row constitutes a dynasty

I actually think in college football, two championships in a row is a dynasty. Every other sport it's three in five years.

This is a subjective definition of the term 'dynasty'.
Loss
#PMT-2023-0515-9018
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Golden State Warriors dynasty is on pause, not over

It's not demolition. Dynasty not over, just dynasty on pause... I think if you win another in the next three years, then it still counts. It blends together as the same.

The Warriors lost in the play-in tournament in 2024 and won only a first-round series in 2025. PFT's three-year window has effectively expired without another title.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 5, 2023
#PMT-2023-0605-17802
Rich EisenRich Eisen

The 1990s Buffalo Bills are a dynasty

Do you consider the bills of the nineties of Dynasty? ... I would [say so]. We'll never see that again. Ever. We saw Brady, we saw Brady with the Patriots and Belichick and they didn't make four in a row... the bills of the early nineties dynasty there, there's names from that team that are all over the hall of fame.

Definition of 'dynasty' is subjective, but this is a very contrarian view in sports media.
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Take Slip·Jun 9, 2023
#PMT-2023-0609-7315
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Nuggets will be a dynasty and should win at least three NBA championships

I think that this nuggets team should win three championships. I think, I think this should be a dynasty... it will be a disappointment to me if the nuggets win fewer than three NBA championships.

The Nuggets won only the 2023 title. They were eliminated in the second round in 2024, and Boston (2024) and OKC (2025) won the next two titles.
Push
Take Slip·Jun 12, 2023
#PMT-2023-0612-12411
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Denver Nuggets winning the 2023 NBA Finals is the start of a dynasty

This is the start of the dynasty. This is, this is merely, but the first chapter that we're writing with Nuggets. If, you don't get three titles then. It's a failure.

The Nuggets won the 2023 title but failed to repeat — eliminated in the second round in 2024, with Boston and OKC winning the next two championships. One title does not make a dynasty.
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Take Slip·Jun 16, 2023
#PMT-2023-0616-17372
Arian MoayedArian Moayed

The Denver Nuggets are going to be a dynasty

I think the Nuggets are going Dynasty. I thought the first who'd they play first? Timberwolves... these guys are gonna win the entire thing. And not only that, they're, no one's gonna even come close to him. I don't think anyone's gonna come close.

The Nuggets were eliminated in the second round of the 2024 playoffs by the Timberwolves, failing to repeat and casting doubt on immediate 'dynasty' status.
Win
Take Slip·Jan 31, 2024·Null
#PMT-2024-0131-13666
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Three championships in five years officially makes the Chiefs a dynasty

I think you can even zoom out and just say about the Chiefs if they win this game of Dynasty. Yeah. Because that's a rule, right? Dynasty talk. Three championships in five years. That's Dynasty. This is crowning them being the new dynasty.

The Chiefs did win the Super Bowl, achieving three rings in five seasons.
Win
Take Slip·Feb 12, 2024
#PMT-2024-0212-10727
Big CatBig Cat

The Kansas City Chiefs have reached their final form as the dynastic New England Patriots

They've reached their final form of being the dynastic New England Patriots, 'cause they are a dynasty now. Three [titles] in five [years].

The Chiefs won their 3rd Super Bowl in 5 years, which historically qualifies as a dynasty similar to the Patriots' early run.
Open
Take Slip·Jun 19, 2024
#PMT-2024-0619-8869
HankHank

The Celtics are set up for a dynasty

I mean the team is set up for a great, great run, which is the most exciting part. We win a championship now and we're set up, we're set up for the future. Maybe a real [dynasty].

The Celtics have a young core locked in, but the second apron and NBA parity make dynasties extremely difficult. This remains to be seen.
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Take Slip·Nov 11, 2024
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the Chiefs go undefeated and win three in a row, they are a more impressive dynasty than the Patriots

If these Chiefs go undefeated... and they win the Super Bowl... that would pretty much seal the deal for which Dynasty is more impressive. It would, it would definitely beat one of the Patriots' dynasties.

The Chiefs went 15-2 in 2024 (not undefeated) and lost Super Bowl LIX to the Eagles 40-22. The hypothetical condition was never met.
Win
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Big CatBig Cat

The Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey team is a true dynasty

The Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey team won another national title. Four outta six years, eight total dominant. Dynasty for sure. That's the Dynasty.

The Badgers have indeed won 4 of the last 6 titles as of the 2024-25 timeframe.
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Take Slip·Jun 2, 2025
#PMT-2025-0602-1571
Big CatBig Cat

The 2025 OKC Thunder championship will be the worst title of their upcoming dynasty

We have gotten ahead of it and we think this actually will be the worst Thunder team to win a title in their dynasty run. 'cause you guys [Alex Caruso] are probably gonna win like six in a row. So you're saying this is the worst this year? Yeah. We just back where we'll be like, can you believe that team won?

A double prediction: OKC wins multiple titles, and this is the weakest team. Extremely bold.
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Take Slip·Jun 4, 2025
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Big CatBig Cat

The 2025 Thunder will eventually be seen as the worst version of their championship dynasty.

This is gonna be the worst thunder team to win an championship because you're gonna get so much better over the course of the next couple seasons with their draft picks. This is actually a down year for the Thunder.

Depends on the Thunder winning the 2025 Finals and subsequently winning more with a better roster. Outcome is pending.
Open
Take Slip·Jun 23, 2025
#PMT-2025-0623-7926
Big CatBig Cat

This 2025 Thunder team is the worst version we will see during their upcoming dynasty

This is the worst Oklahoma City Thunder team that will win a championship during this dynasty run. They had to go to seven against the Nuggets. They had to go to seven against the Pacers. I don't expect that to happen ever again for them.

The Thunder did win the 2025 title. Whether it's the start of a multi-title dynasty is pending.
Push
Take Slip·Sep 15, 2025
#PMT-2025-0915-14938
ZacZac

The Chiefs' Mahomes and Andy Reid dynasty is finished

I just think the dynasty's over. I think Andy Reid and Mahomes dynasty's finished... usually when they pan the camera to Andy Reid, he's got a certain amount of girth... but this time it almost looks a little hollow. It looks a little empty.

The Chiefs did not return to the Super Bowl after losing LIX and have not been serious title contenders the last two seasons. The dynasty may indeed be over, though Mahomes is only 29.