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Gary PaytonGary Payton

John Stockton is the GOAT because he affected every part of the game more efficiently than MJ or LeBron

A guy got the ball 90% of the time and he's very effective... you look up on a scoreboard, and he has 20-something points, 15 assists, four steals, and six rebounds... That's a hell of a game. And you only play 32 minutes... you can't take none of the 34 minutes off against him because he's going to be so effective.

GOAT debates are inherently subjective.
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Gary PaytonGary Payton

The 1996 Sonics were just as good as the 72-win Bulls

I don't think they [1996 Bulls] were the best team of all time. We was pretty damn good our goddamn self. ... I mean, we had won, what, they won 72, we won 64? ... I think that Sonics team, we won zero plus five years in a row yeah five years in a row.

The Bulls beat the Sonics 4-2 in the Finals and have the better record, but this is a competitive opinion.
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Gary PaytonGary Payton

Seattle will get an NBA team back by 2020 or 2021

I think so. I think it's like 2021 or 2020 is going to happen. I know we've just got to prove for our arena to get done. We've got a hockey team coming in there. That's all what the NBA wants.

Seattle did not have an NBA team by 2021 (the Kraken hockey team arrived, but no NBA expansion yet).
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Gary PaytonGary Payton

The modern NBA is soft because referees bail out scorers like James Harden with constant fouls

Basketball has changed. It's not like when we played. We were more physical. We could put our hands on guys. All the jumping into everybody and all the fouls going towards the offensive player, that wasn't happening in our era... Nowadays in this era... letting [scorers] go underneath your arm and letting [them] get the threes when he jump up and you're trying to guard him and the referees bail him out.

This is a widespread opinion among former players and many fans regarding the shift in officiating focus.
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Gary PaytonGary Payton

The 2004 Lakers were lucky to even make it to the NBA Finals

We were even lucky to get into the championships... Shaq didn't play 50-some games. Kobe didn't play 40-some games. And [Malone] 62. So it was a situation where we were even lucky to get into the championships... we just so happened, got everything together and we lucked up and got into the championship.

A veteran's perspective on a historical team's internal health and luck is subjective but highly credible.
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Gary PaytonGary Payton

Dikembe Mutombo has the worst feet in NBA history

You know, I used to watch his [Shaq's] feet a lot. ... have you seen the Dikembe Mutombo feet? That's the worst.

Feet quality is subjective, though Mutombo's are famously large/worn.
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Gary PaytonGary Payton

Draymond Green is the best trash-talker in the NBA today

Draymond is probably the one that can do it the best... Draymond was like me, but he takes it far. And some of the referees would have kicked him out a lot, and he would have had a lot of texts like me.

Trash-talking prowess is subjective, but Draymond is widely considered the league's top irritant and talker.

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