Gary Payton on Trash Talking, The Glove's GOAT, and NBA Finals Drama
The highest man in America made the highest play of all time, and J.R. Smith has officially broken the NBA Finals. Big Cat and PFT are still trying to process how a professional basketball player forgot the score in a tie game with five seconds left. LeBron James put up 51 points in an all-time performance, but it was all undone by J.R. dribbling out the clock like he was trying to kill time in a game they were already winning.
The Cavaliers lost Game 1; the Warriors did not win it
I would say that the Cavaliers lost this game. The Warriors did not win it. So it's still 0-0.
PFT is convinced the only reason Kendrick Perkins is even on the roster is for this exact scenario: to serve as LeBron's personal hitman.
LeBron James insisted on Kendrick Perkins being on the Cavs specifically to kill J.R. Smith if he made a mistake
The reason why LeBron insisted on getting Kendrick Perkins on his squad was just for this type of situation. I fully expect Kendrick Perkins to kill J.R. Smith.
While the Warriors technically took the lead in the series, it didn't feel like a win for anyone except the chaos-lovers. Big Cat is already calling the series over because there's simply no emotional recovery from a blunder that catastrophic.
The Cavs are going to get swept after J.R. Smith's Game 1 mistake
There's no recovery from that [J.R. Smith play]. None whatsoever. They're going to get swept.
The Glove Drops the Hammer
NBA Hall of Famer Gary Payton joined the show to discuss coaching in the Big 3 and his legendary career. Known as one of the greatest trash talkers to ever lace them up, "The Glove" didn't disappoint. He broke down why he thinks the 1996 Sonics were just as formidable as the 72-win Bulls and why the modern game is a bit too friendly for his liking.
The 1996 Sonics were just as good as the 72-win Bulls
I don't think they [1996 Bulls] were the best team of all time. We was pretty damn good our goddamn self. ... I mean, we had won, what, they won 72, we won 64? ... I think that Sonics team, we won zero plus five years in a row yeah five years in a row.
When asked about the toughest player he ever had to guard, Payton didn't go with MJ or Kobe. Instead, he gave the nod to John Stockton, citing the Jazz legend's efficiency and refusal to engage in the trash-talking games that Payton used to dismantle other point guards.
John Stockton is the GOAT because he affected every part of the game more efficiently than MJ or LeBron
A guy got the ball 90% of the time and he's very effective... you look up on a scoreboard, and he has 20-something points, 15 assists, four steals, and six rebounds... That's a hell of a game. And you only play 32 minutes... you can't take none of the 34 minutes off against him because he's going to be so effective.
Payton also shared his thoughts on the current state of the league, specifically calling out the way referees protect high-volume scorers like James Harden.
The modern NBA is soft because referees bail out scorers like James Harden with constant fouls
Basketball has changed. It's not like when we played. We were more physical. We could put our hands on guys. All the jumping into everybody and all the fouls going towards the offensive player, that wasn't happening in our era... Nowadays in this era... letting [scorers] go underneath your arm and letting [them] get the threes when he jump up and you're trying to guard him and the referees bail him out.
Before letting him go, Big Cat tried to corner Payton about ducking a 2-on-1 basketball game against the PMT crew years ago. It nearly devolved into a real-time scrap as Big Cat claimed he could take the Hall of Famer in the low post.
I would have trash-talked Gary Payton off the court if he hadn't faked an injury in 2014
Are you scared that I would have trash talked you off the court? ... I mean, that was someone was covering for your ass because your ass didn't want a piece of me.
Caps Are A Wagon and Take Quakes
Transitioning to the ice, PFT is officially declaring the Washington Capitals a team of destiny. After a massive Game 2 win, the energy heading back to D.C. is at an all-time high. Even with Kuznetsov's status up in the air, the Capitals look like they are finally ready to exorcise their playoff demons.
The Washington Capitals are a team of destiny
We're going to talk about how the Washington Capitals, our Washington Capitals, are a team of destiny? Yes. ... Cap's got this. They're just stronger. Stronger, faster?
In a special NBA Finals edition of Take Quake, the guys reacted to Colin Cowherd's suggestion that LeBron might take a year off if things get ugly. Big Cat decided to double down, putting his own stamp on a potential LeBron sabbatical.
I am predicting that if the NBA Finals go poorly, LeBron James will take a year off from the NBA
Today is June 1st, 2018. Stamp it. I am predicting that if LeBron James, if the finals don't go exactly how he wants them to go in his head, in his head only, LeBron James is going to take a year off.
We also checked in on the Hot Seat, where Yu Darvish is apparently feeling the heat from Chicago's Twitter accounts. Big Cat isn't happy with Darvish's "friend" for airing out the pitcher's dirty laundry regarding his social media sensitivity.
Chris Jimenez is a terrible friend for publicly revealing that Yu Darvish is sad about Twitter hate
How terrible, though, is it for your friend to go on record and be like, hey, every time you go on Twitter and hate on Yu Darvish, he reads it and he despises it and gets him really sad. Yeah, that's basically the worst thing he could do. I know he was trying to be a good friend. Terrible friend. Very bad friend.
To wrap things up, the guys discussed Hue Jackson finally jumping into Lake Erie. While he's technically fulfilling his promise, Big Cat isn't impressed by the timing. Waiting until June to jump into a Great Lake is a classic move for a coach who can't even find a win in the regular season.
Hue Jackson jumping in Lake Erie on June 1st is a total cop-out
He waited until June 1st? Kind of a cop-out. That's the biggest cop-out I've ever fucking heard. ... You can't wait until June 1st to jump in a lake.
If you see a man in a full suit jumping into a lake in June, just know he’s probably trying to distract you from a 0-16 record.

