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Take Slip·Jul 1, 2019
#PMT-2019-0701-798
Big CatBig Cat

Every team in the NBA would have offered Kevin Durant a max contract except for the Knicks

If every team in the NBA had the ability to offer a max contract to Kevin Durant, every single team would give him a max contract. And the Knicks. They're the last team.

While hyperbolically stated, most insiders agreed that the vast majority of the league would have maxed Durant despite the injury, making the Knicks' stance unique/laughable.
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Take Slip·Jul 1, 2019
#PMT-2019-0701-800
Big CatBig Cat

Jimmy Butler's move to Miami is perfect because he just wants to be himself and doesn't care about competing for titles

J-Butt in Miami, which I think it's kind of solid. It's almost the perfect J-Butt move... He just wants to be J-Butt and... be with Mark Wahlberg... But now he's on a team that's not really going to compete, but he's going to have a good time.

Butler led the Heat to two NBA Finals appearances (2020, 2023), proving he was extremely interested in competing at the highest level.
Loss
Take Slip·Jul 1, 2019
#PMT-2019-0701-799
HankHank

Kemba Walker is a better player than Kyrie Irving

Hank, the Celtics definitely won by getting Kemba... [Hank:] Yes. [Big Cat:] OK. [PFT:] No, I agree with Hank on this take. I think that he's a better fit up there.

Kyrie Irving is widely considered a superior talent and has had a much better career post-2019 than Kemba Walker, whose career was derailed by knee injuries.
Void
Take Slip·Jul 1, 2019
#PMT-2019-0701-802
Dwight HowardDwight Howard

Wilt Chamberlain is the greatest basketball player of all time

I think Wilt Chamberlain is the best player. Wilt Chamberlain has 68 of the 72 NBA records... He got 23,000 rebounds.

The GOAT debate is inherently subjective.
Void
Take Slip·Jul 1, 2019
#PMT-2019-0701-803
Dwight HowardDwight Howard

Kobe Bryant was a more skilled offensive player than Michael Jordan

When I say Kobe is better than Michael Jordan, I'm talking about as far as skilled in the overall game... Kobe can do everything Michael Jordan can do, but he learned how to do it better offensively.

This is a classic basketball debate that cannot be objectively settled.
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Take Slip·Jul 1, 2019
#PMT-2019-0701-804
Dwight HowardDwight Howard

Dwight Howard believes he can play in the NBA until he is 40 years old

The way my body's been feeling, I could probably play until I'm 40... I do want to play until I'm 40.

Dwight played his last NBA game at age 36. While he continued playing professionally in Taiwan at age 37-38, he did not reach age 40 in the NBA.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 28, 2019
#PMT-2019-0628-14211
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jimmy Butler going to the Rockets would be healthy because he would blow everything up immediately

Jimmy Butler gets in, and he just blows everything up. I think that's way more entertaining and, frankly, more healthy [than the Rockets' current passive-aggressive state].

Butler never signed with the Rockets, so the impact cannot be verified.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 28, 2019
#PMT-2019-0628-14213
Big CatBig Cat

Daryl Morey is playing with house money and the Jimmy Butler pursuit is his ultimate move

It's almost like he's playing with house money at this point, and Jimmy Butler, J-Butt, is the ultimate house money move.

Morey's tenure ended in 2020 without a title, suggesting the 'house money' risks didn't fully pay off for the Rockets.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 28, 2019
#PMT-2019-0628-14210
Big CatBig Cat

The Lakers are going to win the title next year

Hank, I told you this, the minute that Klay Thompson tore his ACL, you told me to chill. The Lakers are going to win the title. Chill. Okay. All right. I'll chill. I'll keep chilling.

The Lakers did win the 2020 NBA Championship.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 28, 2019
#PMT-2019-0628-14212
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James giving Anthony Davis his number 23 jersey means it is now Davis' team

I think that means that this is Anthony Davis' team though. I think it does. If we're talking Batman and Robin, the Batman definitely wears number 23.

This is subjective but leans incorrect as LeBron remained the primary leader and Finals MVP in 2020.
Win
#PMT-2019-0628-14220
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA will never actually shorten the 82-game season because everyone loses money

You just have to remember, if they shorten the season, all the players are going to get paid less. So there's no way they're ever going to shorten the season, and all the owners are going to make less money. So it's never going to get shortened.

The NBA has not shortened its 82-game regular season schedule.
Push
#PMT-2019-0628-14221
Big CatBig Cat

Adam Silver's public 'discussion' of fan ideas is just a brilliant PR move to appease Reddit

Adam Silver is a genius because he just basically goes on NBA Reddit, reads the most upvoted idea for how to fix the NBA, and then says, we're going to discuss it in this offseason, and maybe we'll make some changes.

The In-Season Tournament did eventually become reality, proving Silver was actually listening to those 'dumb' ideas.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 26, 2019
#PMT-2019-0626-13555
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA holding their awards show in late June is a stupid move

I don't want a fucking award show on a random Monday in June. Mentally, we do as fans [care about the postseason results]. I'm thinking, of course James Harden didn't win it because the Rockets flamed out again. It's so stupid that they do it this way. They should just do it right before the playoffs.

The NBA eventually moved away from the separate awards show format in 2021 due to low interest and the timing issues Big Cat mentioned.
Void
Take Slip·Jun 26, 2019
#PMT-2019-0626-13559
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Doc Rivers looked like a better coach when Austin Rivers was on his team because Austin was such a shithead

Doc Rivers appeared to be a better coach when he had his son on the team because his son was such a shithead that if you could squeeze a little bit of blood out of Austin Rivers, then you looked like a fucking genius.

This is a subjective opinion about coaching perception.
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Take Slip·Jun 26, 2019
#PMT-2019-0626-13565
Big CatBig Cat

I predict Kawhi Leonard will stay with the Toronto Raptors

I think Kawhi's going to stay in Toronto. We're going to do a Sunday night full recap of this league because we're going to tape after the 6 p.m. All these things I feel like have been decided.

Kawhi Leonard famously left Toronto to sign with the Los Angeles Clippers on July 6, 2019.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 26, 2019
#PMT-2019-0626-13562
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving is clearly the common denominator for the locker room dysfunction at his various stops

There was this tweet that was the quotes from Kyrie Irving's basically last four or five years where essentially he said that he hated all his teammates and all his coaches at every stop. Like, hey, man, eventually you are the asshole, right?

History generally supports this view as Kyrie had similarly rocky exits from the Nets and eventually the Mavericks (initially).
Void
#PMT-2019-0626-13569
HankHank

The Warriors training staff is sketchy and prioritizes the team over player health

My hot seat is the Warriors training staff. Since the Durant injury, there's been rumors about how Durant was ripshit over the Warriors training staff for kind of lying to him and telling him that the injury wasn't as bad... And Iguodala went on The Breakfast Club today, and he basically revealed himself that he had a fractured leg in the 2018 playoffs, but that was kept under wraps and downplayed.

While controversial, several players including Iguodala corroborated these claims, though the team denied wrongdoing.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 24, 2019
#PMT-2019-0624-16738
Mark TitusMark Titus

I was 6'4" and dunking in a basketball game by the 8th grade

I was 6'4 in eighth grade. I dunked in a basketball game in eighth grade. You're Magic Johnson. You're playing all five positions. I was like, dude, this is the greatest thing ever. I'm going to the league.

Titus was indeed a highly-touted prospect in Indiana before playing at Ohio State.
Void
#PMT-2019-0621-998
Big CatBig Cat

Zion Williamson is the most beloved athlete in the last 20 years

Is Zion Williamson the most beloved athlete in the last 20 years? The most beloved. I'm talking about everyone loves him... universallly sports fans it feels like everyone's rooting for [Zion].

While Zion was extremely popular in 2019, his reputation became complicated by injuries and off-court drama in subsequent years, making the 'most beloved' tag debatable.
Win
#PMT-2019-0621-999
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Skip Bayless will be the first person to publicly hate on Zion Williamson

I think it's going to be Skip that starts the train with it. He's going to test the waters early in the season and be like, I think Zion's going to have trouble staying under 300 pounds.

Skip Bayless was indeed one of the first and most vocal mainstream critics of Zion Williamson, specifically targeting his weight and health.
Push
#PMT-2019-0621-1000
Big CatBig Cat

I actually like the Bulls roster because everyone fits together

the bulls actually did something i agree with baby jordan a point guard yes another north carolina guy they've drafted a point guard when they needed a point guard the bulls roster i actually like it because everyone fits

The Coby White pick turned out to be one of the Bulls' better moves of that era, though the 'everyone fits' part was optimistic for a team that remained in the lottery for several years.
Void
#PMT-2019-0621-1001
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Space Jam 2 is a front to pay players off the books and avoid the NBA salary cap

Space Jam 2 is just an excuse to pay players off the book and avoid the salary cap. Palenka, he doesn't have to know anything about the salary cap. All he has to know is LeBron James' cell phone number and be like, hey, is the money good? Right. Okay, awesome. He's got a spreadsheet. Can you shave $10 million off Lola Bunny's contract and funnel it to Anthony Davis?

There is no proof this actually occurred, but it remains a legendary fan theory/satire about the Lakers' recruitment tactics.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 19, 2019
#PMT-2019-0619-11998
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

James Harden and Chris Paul hate each other because the Warriors drove them insane

These two guys are very outstanding basketball players... but they develop these little nitpicky things that they have to go at each other by because they're just not good enough to beat the Warriors. So now all of a sudden they fucking hate each other because the Warriors have just driven them insane.

The Harden-Paul rift was well-documented and eventually led to Chris Paul being traded to the Thunder later that summer.
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Take Slip·Jun 19, 2019
#PMT-2019-0619-12000
Big CatBig Cat

Kawhi Leonard is definitely leaving the Toronto Raptors

Doing a parade which looked awesome... and then continually answering questions when people say like what does this mean to Toronto and he's like 'well they it's something they can build on'... doesn't feel like he's staying.

Kawhi Leonard did leave the Raptors to sign with the Los Angeles Clippers in July 2019.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 17, 2019
#PMT-2019-0617-1665
Big CatBig Cat

Being on LeBron James's team guarantees you will eventually be traded

If you are part of LeBron's team, this is since July 2010... there's been 42 trades if you were on LeBron's team. ... essentially, if you're on LeBron's team, it's not a if, it's just a when. LeBron will decide to trade you.

LeBron's teams continue to have high turnover rates as he pushes for immediate title contention, a trend that persisted through his entire Lakers tenure.
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Take Slip·Jun 17, 2019
#PMT-2019-0617-1667
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Lakers will never win another championship because of the 'Ball Curse'

There's a curse that's been put on. ... And that is the ball curse. The big baller brand curse. LeVar [Ball] said that they will never win another championship. After trading away his son. ... It will be the worst move the Lakers ever did in their life, and they will never win another championship. Guarantee it.

The Lakers won the NBA Championship the very next season (2020), making this prediction spectacularly wrong.
Void
#PMT-2019-0617-1676
Big CatBig Cat

Kawhi Leonard is actually more fun than the internet portrays him

Let's be nice to Kawhi. I think Kawhi is more fun than we then the internet collectively has put on him. ... The brand is very strong. ... There's nothing he can do at this point to be like, oh, my God, Kawhi's coming out of his shell.

While Leonard is private, teammate accounts often suggest he is funny and talkative in private, supporting Big Cat's view.
Push
Take Slip·Jun 14, 2019
#PMT-2019-0614-8739
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Raptors are the first team that can actually be called 'World Champions' because they are Canadian

I think we can actually say world champions for the first time because they are Canadian. They have stolen our trophy.

The Raptors are indeed from Canada, making them the first non-US team to win, though 'World Champions' is still a marketing term.
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Take Slip·Jun 14, 2019
#PMT-2019-0614-8740
Big CatBig Cat

Injuries are part of the game and shouldn't lead to an asterisk for the Raptors' title

Being healthy is part of winning an NBA championship. And I hate when people do the asterisks. Being healthy is part of winning an NBA championship.

This is a subjective philosophy on how to value championships.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 14, 2019
#PMT-2019-0614-8741
Big CatBig Cat

The Kawhi Leonard trade is the most perfect one-year rental in NBA history

The best trade ever for a one year guy... going all in for one year and being like, let's just do it. Let's have Kawhi come to Toronto. He might not stay... and just throw all of our chips in the middle, and it worked out.

Kawhi won the FMVP and the title, then left for the Clippers. It is widely cited as the greatest rental trade ever.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18682
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Teams will still give Kevin Durant a max contract despite his Achilles injury

Teams are, I think it was Skip Bayless actually that was saying, are teams really going to want to pay for Kevin Durant? Let me stop you right now, Skip. Yeah, they're going to. Shut up, Knicks fans. You're still going to pay for Kevin Durant. He's still going to be awesome when he comes back.

The Brooklyn Nets signed Kevin Durant to a four-year, $164 million max contract on June 30, 2019, just weeks after this injury.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18683
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Achilles injury should be renamed the 'Kobe Heel'

We need to rebrand the Achilles injury. We named it after a dude that lost a war like 5,000 years ago. And we're still calling it the Achilles. It should be the Kobe heel.

This is a subjective proposal for a linguistic rebrand.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18684
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bob Myers' tears at the Kevin Durant press conference were 'guilty man' tears

I'm going to say it was more because he [Bob Myers] fucked up somehow. Yeah, those are the tears. And if he cries, those are the tears of a guilty man who's like, I need to be super emotional because I know that my medical staff fucked up by allowing him to go out there and now everyone would be like, oh, poor Bob Myers, he really cares.

While speculative, it reflects a major debate in sports media regarding the Warriors' medical management of Durant.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18703
Rick ReillyRick Reilly

Michael Jordan's 90s Bulls were much bigger than the current Warriors

They were the Beatles. It was so much bigger than the Warriors. People have no idea... They say that, I mean, I have traveled with the Warriors too and they say it's equal, but it's not equal because I've done both.

A matter of historical perspective and subjective experience of fame.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18688
Big CatBig Cat

Nick Nurse called one of the worst timeouts of all time in Game 5

Nick Nurse with one of the worst timeouts of all time. He said he was actually trying to get them some rest... Kawhi Leonard goes supernova, 10 points in like 90 seconds. I swear to God, Nick Nurse called that timeout to soak it in... It's like, what are you doing, dude? You have all the momentum in the world.

The timeout did objectively kill the Raptors' momentum, though 'worst of all time' is hyperbole.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18690
Big CatBig Cat

The Raptors will beat the Warriors in Game 6

I think the Raptors are going to win it. I think Kawhi loves the road games. I think all this drama, as great as Game 5 was, I just have a feeling the Raptors are going to come out and just fucking kill the Warriors on Thursday night.

The Raptors defeated the Warriors 114-110 in Game 6 to win the NBA title.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2019
#PMT-2019-0612-18692
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA Finals series will go to a Game 7

I think it's going seven too... Yeah, but that's just because I'm doing the thing where I'm holding on with both hands to the hockey and to the NBA off the edge of the cliff.

The series ended in 6 games.
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#PMT-2019-0610-19487
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant will play in Game 5 of the 2019 NBA Finals

I think [Durant] will play on Monday night. I really do. And it will be chaos. And it's perfect because this is like the Warriors' entire season in a microcosm.

Kevin Durant did return for Game 5, though he tragically tore his Achilles just minutes into his return.
Push
#PMT-2019-0610-19488
Big CatBig Cat

Dynasties end with a whimper, and the Warriors are currently in that stage

Whenever a dynasty ends, you just sit there being like... Oh, they're going to turn it on. It's going to happen. And it just doesn't. History shows that it's probably more likely the Raptors will finish them off on Monday night.

The Warriors lost the series (dynasty ended), but the Raptors did not finish them on Monday; the series went to Game 6.
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#PMT-2019-0610-19489
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant's 'calf' injury is actually a secret Achilles injury

I'm definitely an Achilles Cav truther now at this point. Because I think that if the injury was as minimal as they made it seem at first, he would have at least tried to play by now.

Durant tore his Achilles in Game 5. Doctors later confirmed the previous injury was likely a pre-cursor or that he was at high risk, making PFT's 'truther' take highly prescient.
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Take Slip·Jun 7, 2019
#PMT-2019-0607-10855
Big CatBig Cat

The Warriors are totally fine in the NBA Finals even without Kevin Durant

I actually think the Warriors are totally fine. I mean, that's not like a hot take, but Klay's going to be back. I think they – sitting Klay, they were like, look, we're the Warriors. Like, we'll be fine. Let's get him 100% healthy or close to 100%. ... But they know that they can win on the road.

The Warriors lost the series to the Raptors in 6 games.
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Take Slip·Jun 7, 2019
#PMT-2019-0607-10857
Big CatBig Cat

I don't think Kevin Durant will play at all in this series

I don't think Kevin Durant's going to play this series. We've said that on Wednesday. ... I like how we're getting even further away. Like, we're going to rule him out for Game 5, the minute Game 4 ends.

Kevin Durant did play in Game 5 of the series before tearing his Achilles.
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Take Slip·Jun 7, 2019
#PMT-2019-0607-10860
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mark Stevens pushed Kyle Lowry because his 4K technology makes him think the players aren't real

He's exposed to all the finest in 4K 3D technology when it comes to watching these games live. He's probably watched games on his couch where it felt like the players were diving into his living room. So he's probably comfortable shoving at them and getting away with it because they're not real. So when he's at a game, he can't tell what's in the Matrix and what's real life.

This is a satirical theory about human psychology and technology; it cannot be factually proven.
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Take Slip·Jun 7, 2019
#PMT-2019-0607-10874
Big CatBig Cat

Paul Pierce is a coward who didn't actually poop his pants in the 2008 Finals

Paul Pierce... I actually don't really buy it. I don't buy it either. I think he admitted as much that he was just using it kind of to get a headline as a joke. ... I think Paul Pierce has just waited till it's been like the tide has turned on it. And he's like, now it's safe to say this. So he's doing it. He's kind of a coward. And he's not only a coward, but he's doing it. And I don't think he actually had to poop his pants. I think he just thought he was really, really injured.

Pierce has sent mixed signals on this for years; Big Cat's take is a character judgment.
Loss
Take Slip·Jun 5, 2019
#PMT-2019-0605-13606
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant will come back for Game 7, save the Warriors, and win Finals MVP

I feel like this update is going to just be the update every single game. Kevin Durant's out for Game 4. Kevin Durant's out for Game 5. Until they get to Game 7 and he comes back and saves the Warriors and wins MVP.

Durant returned in Game 5, not Game 7, and suffered a season-ending Achilles injury; the Warriors lost the series in 6.
Push
Take Slip·Jun 5, 2019
#PMT-2019-0605-13607
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is going to be out for the entire NBA Finals

I don't think that [Kevin Durant] is going to play. I think he's out for the whole series.

Durant did play 12 minutes in Game 5, so he wasn't technically out for the whole series, though he missed the vast majority of it.
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Take Slip·Jun 5, 2019
#PMT-2019-0605-13612
Manny PacquiaoManny Pacquiao

Michael Jordan is the GOAT over LeBron James because of his leadership

Michael Jordan, he has a leadership. That's the most important thing. As a player, as an athlete, you have a leadership... in a basketball game, if you're a superstar in the team, you have to lead your team.

This is a matter of opinion in the eternal sports debate.
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#PMT-2019-0605-13616
Big CatBig Cat

Kobe Bryant is better than LeBron James

If you're a LeBron stan, take a moment, have a little self-reflection, and realize Kobe's better than LeBron.

This is a subjective basketball ranking debate.
Void
#PMT-2019-0605-13617
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is the greatest loser in NBA history

[LeBron James] will forever be known as being absolutely great at not succeeding... perhaps the best loser ever.

While LeBron has more Finals losses than many peers, the title 'greatest loser' is an editorialized hot take.
Win
Take Slip·Jun 3, 2019
#PMT-2019-0603-1807
Big CatBig Cat

Klay Thompson's hamstring injury is a huge concern for the Warriors

Klay Thompson going out with the hamstring, which, by the way, that wasn't talked about after, but that's a huge, huge injury because he went out and he looked really pissed. Hamstrings are weird, man.

Klay's hamstring kept him out of Game 3 (which the Warriors lost), proving it was a significant factor in the series.
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