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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-1116-14458
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers is passionless and nonchalant about his throws

Aaron Rodgers is an exceptional talent... But doesn't it feel like he is very nonchalant about a lot of his throws? He does the flick the wrist thing. And he can do it better than anyone, and it feels like he just is very nonchalant about a lot of his throws.

Body language is subjective, but Rodgers' performance remained elite for years after this.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-1116-14461
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Todd Bowles will get fired

I'm doing some PFT premonitions here... Here's what's going to happen. Todd Bowles is going to get fired. No, that's not it. That was in the front of my neck. That was my Adam's apple.

Todd Bowles was fired by the Jets on December 30, 2018.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-1116-14462
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFC Wild Card round will feature Kirk Cousins vs. the Redskins

My actual premonition, first round of the playoffs, is going to be Kirk Cousins' revenge game against the W-Word Redskins. I'm saying the NFC Wild Card... Vikings are going to win the Wild Card. Oh, and the Redskins are going to win the East.

The Redskins went 7-9 and missed the playoffs. The Vikings also missed the playoffs at 8-7-1. Neither predicted outcome happened.
Void
Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-1116-14464
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patrick Mahomes ketchup-shaming in the media is a Chicago conspiracy

I think that this is something that's been planted... by you Chicago elitist types who hate ketchup, and you are dead set on finding something wrong with Pat Mahomes so that you can be like, actually, Mitch is better.

This is a satirical conspiracy theory that cannot be factually proven, though it highlights the real Mahomes/Trubisky draft debate of 2018.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018·Picks
#PMT-2018-1116-14466
Big CatBig Cat

The Cowboys-Falcons loser is eliminated from the playoffs

Loser leaves town... Cowboys-Falcons. That's the game. The loser of that game will officially be eliminated, similar to the Seahawks-Packers game.

The Falcons lost and finished 7-9, missing the playoffs. The Cowboys won and made the playoffs. The take was correct for the loser.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018·Picks
#PMT-2018-1116-14468
Big CatBig Cat

The Cowboys will give their fans just enough hope to break their hearts

The Cowboys can't go out in a normal way. They can't lose and not make the playoffs by just being bad. They have to do it in a heartbreaking way. So we have not heard the last of the Cowboys this season.

The Cowboys won the division but lost in the Divisional Round to the Rams, arguably a standard 'heartbreaking' exit.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018·Picks
#PMT-2018-1116-14469
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Never bet on the Oakland Raiders

Don't bet on the Raiders. Also, here's another tip. I bet on the Raiders like five times this year. They will find new ways to reach levels of incompetence that we have not seen in this country in the last 200 years.

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The 2018 Raiders finished 4-12 and were one of the worst ATS (Against The Spread) teams that year.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-1116-14471
George KittleGeorge Kittle

Kyle Shanahan's offensive installs are outrageous

Every install meeting that [Shanahan] does is absolutely outrageous... he explains it so fast. He'll go through 60 plays in about 15 minutes and then you guys got all that, and we're out on the field practicing.

Shanahan's complexity and offensive success are widely documented by players and analysts.
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Take Slip·Nov 16, 2018
#PMT-2018-1116-14472
George KittleGeorge Kittle

Pancaking a defender is better than catching a touchdown

If you can take a defensive end and bend him over backwards and put his back on the turf, that's one of the greatest feelings of all time.

This is a subjective preference of the athlete.
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Take Slip·Nov 14, 2018
#PMT-2018-1114-4671
Big CatBig Cat

Eli Manning is definitely going to be in the Hall of Fame

He's going to be in the Hall of Fame, which we can embrace debate. I actually looked through his numbers. I did some deep diving. It's interesting to be like he's a Hall of Famer for sure and then look at his career and be like half the seasons you had to even ask if he was good.

Eli Manning was not inducted into the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility (2025 class), despite being a finalist. He is a finalist again for the 2026 class. The take said 'definitely going to be in' — he likely will eventually, but he wasn't first-ballot.
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Take Slip·Nov 14, 2018
#PMT-2018-1114-4672
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams will have 'super strength' by training at high altitude before returning to sea level

The LA Rams went to Colorado Springs to practice in altitude all week... Will they have super strength by going back down to sea level? Okay, so yes. I was going to say, if there's any other answer, then yes, you're wrong.

While training at altitude has physiological benefits, 'super strength' is a hyperbolic term. The Rams did beat the Chiefs in a high-scoring game following this.
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#PMT-2018-1114-4675
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill O'Brien is a bad coach who will never win a Super Bowl

Bill O'Brien's a bad coach and no way he's going to win a Super Bowl. Yeah, exactly. No way he's going to win a Super Bowl.

Bill O'Brien was fired by the Texans in 2020 and has not won a Super Bowl as a head coach.
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Take Slip·Nov 14, 2018
#PMT-2018-1114-4679
Baker MayfieldBaker Mayfield

The Browns will win a Super Bowl in the 21st century

This is the portion of the interview where we let you predict when the Browns will win the Super Bowl. 2020? In the 21st century, yeah. ... Okay, so you are saying that you will win a Super Bowl with the Browns. Just maybe not the statue.

The Browns have not won a Super Bowl yet, but the 21st century has many years remaining.
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Take Slip·Nov 14, 2018
#PMT-2018-1114-4682
Big CatBig Cat

Hue Jackson will try to get everyone on the Bengals staff fired to take the head coach job

Hugh Jackson is brought in with a very suspect and vague title, which basically means he's going to ingratiate himself with first Marvin Lewis, then the owner, Mike Brown? Yeah, Mike Brown, and then get everyone fired so he can take the job.

Both Marvin Lewis and Hue Jackson were let go after the 2018 season, and the Bengals hired Zac Taylor instead.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20131
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Eagles are playing like a pile of shit

They [the Eagles] are playing like a pile of shit. Offensively, they look boring. I don't know what it is that's so different from last year.

The 2018 Eagles struggled significantly compared to their Super Bowl season, finishing 9-7 and barely making the playoffs as a Wild Card.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20132
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFC East is the Redskins' division to lose

I think it's time to say this is the Redskins' division. I thought the Eagles would win tonight and it would be a race, but the Eagles having that showing, they have to now basically run the table.

The Redskins collapsed after Alex Smith's injury shortly after this episode, finishing 7-9. The Cowboys won the division.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20133
Big CatBig Cat

Baker Mayfield is officially a franchise quarterback

Baker Mayfield saying, 'I woke up this morning feeling dangerous.' That's a franchise quarterback.

While Mayfield had a rocky tenure in Cleveland, he eventually led them to a playoff win and proved to be a legitimate NFL starter, later revitalizing his career in Tampa.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20134
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears can win a playoff game if they beat the Vikings on Sunday Night

The Sunday night football game against the Vikings is going to be the biggest test where it's like, okay, can they at home beat a really good team? And then I will say to myself, this team can win a playoff game.

The Bears did beat the Vikings that week, but they famously lost their home playoff game against the Eagles due to the Double Doink.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20135
Big CatBig Cat

Matt Patricia has officially lost the Lions' locker room

Remember the start of the season when we said Matt Patricia lost the locker room and everyone was like, 'No, you were wrong.' I think he actually has. And it's a disaster.

Patricia's tenure was famously disastrous and he was eventually fired mid-season in 2020 after numerous reports of players disliking his style.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20142
Robert KlemkoRobert Klemko

Baker Mayfield is having the best year of all the rookie quarterbacks

I'm going to give it to my guy, Baker Mayfield. I just feel like, given how bad that offensive line is, the way that he stood in there and taken some of these hits and made plays... the performances that he's put up with all the turmoil inside the organization have been kind of crazy.

Mayfield finished second in Offensive Rookie of the Year voting and broke the rookie passing TD record at the time.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20143
Robert KlemkoRobert Klemko

Josh Rosen has been the most disappointing rookie quarterback

The one that really disappoints, I think, it's probably Josh Rosen. Any one of these guys, given no-skill position players around them, some uninspired play calling could look as bad as Josh Rosen looks right now.

Rosen was traded after one year and never developed into a successful NFL starter, confirming the 'disappointing' label.
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Take Slip·Nov 12, 2018
#PMT-2018-1112-20144
Robert KlemkoRobert Klemko

John Harbaugh will be the Ravens' coach for another year

I think they finish strong, and I think Harbaugh is going to be the coach there for another year... I would put money on Harbaugh being there for a while.

Harbaugh remained the coach of the Ravens and is still there years later.
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Take Slip·Nov 9, 2018
#PMT-2018-1109-18424
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Steelers are officially a factor again

I'm ready to declare the Steelers are back. No, they're a factor. That's what I'm going to call them. They're going to be a factor. They could make some noise.

The Steelers finished 9-6-1 and narrowly missed the playoffs in 2018, failing to live up to the 'factor' billing after a mid-season surge.
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Take Slip·Nov 9, 2018
#PMT-2018-1109-18425
Big CatBig Cat

Dez Bryant will be a massive goal-line threat for the Saints

Dez Bryant in Sean Payton's offense is going to be like a goal line threat. He's going to be open because they've got to cover everyone else. And he's going to put up numbers.

Dez Bryant tore his Achilles in practice just two days after signing with the Saints and never played a single snap for the team.
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Take Slip·Nov 9, 2018
#PMT-2018-1109-18426
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sean Payton signed Dez Bryant to pick his brain for the Cowboys job next year

My other thing about this is I think Sean Payton signed [Dez Bryant] so that he could pick his brains about the Dallas offense and all the players on that team so that Sean, when he takes the Dallas job next year...

Sean Payton did not take the Cowboys job in 2019; he stayed with New Orleans until 2022.
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Take Slip·Nov 9, 2018·Picks
#PMT-2018-1109-18427
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Redskins will win the NFC East

Now I want to point out that Mike Tanyer... ran a simulation of the rest of the season... And the R-Words still won the division. So don't jump the gun on the Eagles just yet. Now I'm 100% back in on the R-Words train after learning about the simulation.

The Cowboys won the NFC East in 2018. Washington finished 7-9.
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#PMT-2018-1109-18429
Big CatBig Cat

Julio Jones will score three touchdowns against the Browns

Julio Jones. The floodgates are open. He scored a touchdown last week. He's going to score three this week. Three touchdowns against the Cleveland Browns. Start him, start him, start him.

Julio Jones scored 1 touchdown against the Browns that week, not three.
Void
Take Slip·Nov 9, 2018
#PMT-2018-1109-18431
Mark LeibovichMark Leibovich

Incompetent leadership is the biggest long-term threat to the NFL

I think ultimately the incompetence of the people who run it is going to wear it down because there is no long-term thinking among any of these owners... So I think that the crisis of leadership is the biggest long-term threat to the league, perhaps.

This is an ongoing subjective assessment of league business health.
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Take Slip·Nov 9, 2018
#PMT-2018-1109-18432
Mark LeibovichMark Leibovich

Roger Goodell stays in power by ensuring there are no strong successors

Part of the savviness of Roger Goodell is that if you want to stay in power a long time, don't hire strong number twos and threes that can replace you. And he has never hired or groomed, let alone even identified a successor.

Goodell has remained commissioner for over 15 years without a clear successor emerging from within the league office.
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Take Slip·Nov 7, 2018
#PMT-2018-1107-6184
Big CatBig Cat

The Cowboys stink and Jerry Jones has no idea what is going on anymore

The Cowboys stink. And Jerry Jones is either dead or has no idea what's going on anymore. He actually has changed the narrative on everyone because he's so scared of firing Jason Garrett and not having full control of his team.

The Cowboys actually turned their season around shortly after this, finishing 10-6 and winning a playoff game, though the Jason Garrett era did eventually end due to the stagnation Big Cat mentions.
Void
Take Slip·Nov 7, 2018
#PMT-2018-1107-6185
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jerry Jones is no longer making the calls for the Cowboys

Jerry Jones is not making the calls anymore. I think he's a figurehead right now. He's the emperor with no clothes... Steven Jones, he's taken over the kingdom from his father. It's like at the end of Braveheart where the old guy's dying and the son's making the calls.

While Stephen Jones took on more responsibility, Jerry Jones remains the official GM and face of the franchise's decisions.
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Take Slip·Nov 7, 2018
#PMT-2018-1107-6187
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Titans should not have signed Malcolm Butler

Malcolm Butler fucking stinks. He's so bad. He's been terrible. [Bill Belichick] duped over his own former player. You are the Titans, yes. You should not have signed Malcolm Butler.

Butler had a very poor start to his Titans career in 2018, though he eventually improved. At the time of the take, he was statistically one of the worst-performing corners.
Void
#PMT-2018-1107-6200
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Tomlin's quotes make no sense despite sounding smart

We've never been more right than we were with our Mike Tomlin take on Monday, basically saying every quote from him is just – makes no sense. But it makes enough sense that you walk away being like, oh, that was smart... You take three steps and you start writing it up, and then you're like, wait a second. These words have never been put together.

This is a recurring observational bit about Tomlin's unique communication style.
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3027
Big CatBig Cat

The loss to the Saints was a statement loss for the Rams that showed championship resolve

I think that was a statement loss for the Rams. Okay. Because they basically had everything go wrong in the first half... And the way they came out in the second half, even though they didn't win the game, that was championship resolve.

The Rams went on to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl that year.
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3028
Big CatBig Cat

Literally anyone could play quarterback better than Nathan Peterman

I am starting to feel like this is actually cruel that they keep putting [Peterman] out there. Like, Sean McDermott, what are you doing? You can find anyone, basically anyone, and I mean anyone, that could play quarterback better than Nathan Peterman.

Peterman's career stats are historically poor, supporting the sentiment that almost any other NFL-level QB was a better option.
Push
Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3029
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sam Darnold is bad and investors should sell the stock

Sam Darnold. Trash. He's bad. Sell the stock.

Darnold's tenure with the Jets was largely considered a failure, though he revived his career years later.
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3030
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Redskins will win the NFC East because the rest of the division sucks

Redskins NFC [East winners] since like week two... and it's not because I think that they're that good of a team. I think the division sucks.

The Cowboys won the NFC East in 2018. The Redskins finished 7-9.
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3031
Big CatBig Cat

The Eagles will eventually shake off their Super Bowl hangover and wake up

I just think the Eagles are going to come on because that's just, they feel get over their Super Bowl hangover. They're going to get over it. They're going to finally wake up.

The Eagles did 'wake up' and won their final three games to secure a wild card spot and then won a playoff game (Double Doink).
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3034
Merril HogeMerril Hoge

Science has not proven what causes CTE or what CTE causes

It probably sparked the book more than anything is when i kept hearing this from the experts... is a pattern we don't know what causes it and we don't know what it causes we have cases where people have played football people who've played sports and people have not played sports and not had concussions and not had history of head trauma.

While research continues, the scientific consensus (CDC, Mayo Clinic) overwhelmingly links repeated head impacts to CTE, making Hoge's claim highly contrarian.
Void
Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3033
Merril HogeMerril Hoge

There is a coordinated plot to destroy the game of football

I don't think there's any question there is [a plot]. When you think about... how many sports do you know where there's legislation to try to ban a particular sport, tackle football? Do you know of any other sport?

This is highly subjective and leans into conspiracy territory, though legislative efforts against youth tackle football are factual.
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Take Slip·Nov 5, 2018
#PMT-2018-1105-3035
Merril HogeMerril Hoge

Subconcussion is not a scientific term and its use is misleading

You just used it as if it's common knowledge... You used the word subconcussion. They haven't even gone through the proper science steps to qualify that as science. ... It's not scientific and so the point is when you don't do the steps of science... there's so many science papers that talk about the abuse of that word, how it's misleading.

The term is widely used in medical literature (e.g. Cleveland Clinic) to describe head impacts that don't result in clinical concussion symptoms but may cause damage, contradicting Hoge.
Push
Take Slip·Nov 2, 2018
#PMT-2018-1102-19350
Big CatBig Cat

The Raiders are the worst team in the NFL

The Raiders are the worst team in the league. And that is also considering the fact they beat the Browns. But they are the worst team in the league.

The Raiders finished 2018 at 4-12. While they were bottom-tier, the Cardinals (3-13) statistically had a worse record.
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Take Slip·Nov 2, 2018
#PMT-2018-1102-19349
Big CatBig Cat

Nick Mullens will have a job for life as an NFL backup quarterback

Nick Mullens will have a job for life... he basically will have a Chase Daniel career where he can get paid in a million different stops and never play again and be fine.

As of 2024, Nick Mullens has remained in the NFL as a reliable backup for the 49ers, Browns, Raiders, and Vikings, fulfilling the 'job for life' prediction.
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Take Slip·Nov 2, 2018
#PMT-2018-1102-19351
Big CatBig Cat

George Kittle is the second-best tight end in the NFL behind Travis Kelce

George Kittle... now he's probably the second-best tight end behind Travis Kelce in the league. Sick brag on our part. But George, this is us saying, please come on the show now that you're bigger than us.

Kittle finished the 2018 season with 1,377 receiving yards (an NFL record for TEs at the time) and was a First-team All-Pro shortly after.
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Take Slip·Nov 2, 2018·Picks
#PMT-2018-1102-19352
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Houston Texans are a legitimate Super Bowl contender

I've talked myself into the Texans are a legitimate Super Bowl contender.

The Texans won the AFC South but lost in the Wild Card round to the Colts. They were never true Super Bowl threats.
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Take Slip·Nov 2, 2018·Hue Boy
#PMT-2018-1102-19358
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Hugh Jackson will eventually claim he was fired because he refused to fire Todd Haley

I think at some point in the next several months moving forward here, we're going to hear an interview with Hugh Jackson where he says, I was fired because I wouldn't fire Todd Haley. Yes, yes. That's the next thing. I stood by my guys.

While Jackson made many excuses on his media tour, the specific narrative that he was fired for *protecting* Haley (whom he openly clashed with) didn't become his primary defense; he mostly blamed the front office for not letting him draft Mahomes or Wentz.
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#PMT-2018-1031-8708
Big CatBig Cat

You have to bet on the Steelers when Ben Roethlisberger thinks he is injured

This actually, if you are a betting man, and we are, you have to take the Steelers this weekend. Because an injured Big Ben, or even a Big Ben who thinks he's injured... always is dangerous.

The Steelers beat the Ravens 23-16 on November 4, 2018. Roethlisberger threw for 270 yards and 2 TDs while playing with a broken finger on his non-throwing hand.
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Take Slip·Oct 31, 2018
#PMT-2018-1031-8698
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Trading for Demaryius Thomas makes the Texans a viable playoff contender

I think this actually makes the Texans a viable playoff contender. Well, okay. Three years ago. I want to caveat it by saying everything that I know about Demaryius Thomas, I stopped learning new things about him after the Super Bowl when they won.

The Texans went 11-5 and won the AFC South, though they lost in the Wild Card round to the Colts.
Void
Take Slip·Oct 31, 2018
#PMT-2018-1031-8699
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Belichick leaked the Josh Gordon suspension news to find a rat in the organization

Somebody was saying that Bill Belichick smells a rat inside his own nest. And he leaked that information to one person. And he was like, if this makes its way to Ian Rapoport's Twitter account, then I know that it's you, and it breaks my heart, but I know it was you.

This is an unverifiable conspiracy theory, though Belichick is known for strict information control.
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#PMT-2018-1031-8700
Big CatBig Cat

Urban Meyer will coach the Packers and Mike McCarthy will coach the Browns

The tip that I got, I think I said it last week, that the dominoes have started to fall. Hugh Jackson gets fired. Urban Meyer goes to coach the Packers. Mike McCarthy gets fired, coaches the Browns because of John Dorsey. And then Bob Stoops comes and coaches Ohio State.

Urban Meyer retired (briefly) before later going to the Jaguars. Mike McCarthy eventually coached the Cowboys. Ryan Day took over Ohio State. Matt LaFleur went to the Packers.
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