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Recap Of LSU/Bama Weekend, NFL Week 9, And Merril Hoge

Monday, November 5, 201818 takes

Week 9 fastest 2 minutes ( - ). Recap of our weekend in Baton Rouge. Death Valley, seeing Coach O, hanging out with Vince Vaughn on the sidelines and Alabama is really fucking good ( - ). NFL Week 9 recap, Big Ben died, Rams vs Saints was awesome, Nathan Peterman is sad, Texans are a wagon, and the Done Chain ( - ). Football Guy of the Week including Dana Holgorsen and Jeremy Pruitt disavowing his entire childhood ( - ). Who's back of the week ( - ). Former NFL Player and studio Analyst Merril Hoge joins the show to talk about his new book on CTE, what the NFL has done right and what it needs to do better ( - ). Segments include Embrace Debate Bob Ryan did a tweet, Way to stay relevant baseball, Hank hot in the streets, and a Stay Woke for Space Jam 2.

LSU/Bama Weekend Recap, NFL Week 9, and Merril Hoge on CTE

Big Cat and PFT Commenter are coming to you live from Louisiana after a weekend in Baton Rouge that featured massive amounts of "Bebe juice," a pig roasted to look like an elephant, and the realization that Alabama might actually be an unstoppable force of nature. Death Valley lived up to the hype as the loudest stadium the guys have ever experienced, even if the game itself turned into a slow-motion car crash for the Tigers.

Loss
Nov 5, 2018
#3026
Big CatBig Cat

Alabama will finish 2018 undefeated and blow everyone out

Everyone in their record books when Alabama finishes an undefeated season and shit kicks everyone. And we'll be like, wait, you could get Alabama at minus 14 in a game in 2018? And you'd be like, that was really stupid. Why didn't we put a billion dollars on it?

Alabama went undefeated in the regular season but lost to Clemson in the National Championship.

PFT Commenter tried to find a silver lining for the rest of the country, though he admits his logic might be a bit flawed when looking for someone who can actually stand up to Nick Saban's juggernaut.

Win
Nov 5, 2018
#3025
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Clemson is the only team with a chance to beat Alabama this year

The only team I can see maybe beating Alabama is possibly Clemson. But I only say that... because I'm an idiot, and I know Clemson and Alabama haven't played any common opponents, I don't think.

Clemson indeed beat Alabama 44-16 in the National Championship game later that season.

NFL Week 9: The Done Chain and Big Ben's Near-Death Experience

Moving to the NFL, the biggest story was Big Ben Roethlisberger nearly seeing the light. After a standard tackle, Ben laid on the turf in a way only he can, later claiming he thought he actually died for a second. It was the most "Big Ben" injury of all time: incredibly dramatic, followed by him staying in the game and winning. Meanwhile, John Harbaugh's Ravens are struggling, and PFT Commenter thinks he has identified the source of the problem in Baltimore.

Push
Nov 5, 2018
#25965
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am sick of John Harbaugh and his obsession with mock turtlenecks

I don't say this lightly, but I'm sick of John Harbaugh's mock turtlenecks. I think that's what the problem is. Find you somebody in this world that loves you as much as John Harbaugh likes wearing mock turtlenecks.

The Ravens finished 10-6 and won the division, suggesting Harbaugh's 'mock turtleneck' era wasn't a total failure in 2018.

In the NFC marquee matchup, the Saints took down the Rams in a shootout that felt like a preview of the NFC Championship. While the Rams lost their undefeated status, Big Cat walked away more impressed with them than he was before kickoff.

Win
Nov 5, 2018
#3027
Big CatBig Cat

The loss to the Saints was a statement loss for the Rams that showed championship resolve

I think that was a statement loss for the Rams. Okay. Because they basically had everything go wrong in the first half... And the way they came out in the second half, even though they didn't win the game, that was championship resolve.

The Rams went on to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl that year.

On the uglier side of the league, Nathan Peterman continued his historic run of making every spectator feel second-hand embarrassment. After another multi-interception performance, Big Cat has officially seen enough of the Peterman experiment in Buffalo.

Win
Nov 5, 2018
#3028
Big CatBig Cat

Literally anyone could play quarterback better than Nathan Peterman

I am starting to feel like this is actually cruel that they keep putting [Peterman] out there. Like, Sean McDermott, what are you doing? You can find anyone, basically anyone, and I mean anyone, that could play quarterback better than Nathan Peterman.

Peterman's career stats are historically poor, supporting the sentiment that almost any other NFL-level QB was a better option.
Push
Nov 5, 2018
#3029
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sam Darnold is bad and investors should sell the stock

Sam Darnold. Trash. He's bad. Sell the stock.

Darnold's tenure with the Jets was largely considered a failure, though he revived his career years later.

Football Guy of the Week and Who's Back

Football Guy of the Week features our good friend Dana Holgorsen, who went for two and the win on the road in a move that defined big ball energy. We also saw Jeremy Pruitt essentially disavow his own childhood by claiming he never wore a Halloween costume because he didn't want to be something he wasn't. Truly psycho behavior that we can only respect.

In Who's Back, LeBron James is making moves in LA, both on the court and in the front office. He gave Luke Walton the dreaded "vote of confidence" this week, and the guys know exactly where that leads.

Win
Nov 5, 2018·Who's Back
#3032
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James' vote of confidence for Luke Walton is a kiss of death

LeBron getting coaches fired... So he gave Luke Walton a vote of confidence. So you know what that means... Suspect kiss of death. ... You know what that means when LeBron says, no, I like Luke Walton. Yeah, you're done.

Luke Walton was fired by the Lakers at the end of the 2018-2019 season.

Merril Hoge on CTE and "Brainwashed"

Former NFL player and analyst Merril Hoge joined the show for a much more serious discussion about his new book, *Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football*. Hoge shared his personal story of being the first player retired due to concussion testing and explained why he feels the current narrative around CTE has bypassed actual scientific rigor.

Loss
Nov 5, 2018
#3034
Merril HogeMerril Hoge

Science has not proven what causes CTE or what CTE causes

It probably sparked the book more than anything is when i kept hearing this from the experts... is a pattern we don't know what causes it and we don't know what it causes we have cases where people have played football people who've played sports and people have not played sports and not had concussions and not had history of head trauma.

While research continues, the scientific consensus (CDC, Mayo Clinic) overwhelmingly links repeated head impacts to CTE, making Hoge's claim highly contrarian.

Hoge didn't hold back on the terminology being used in the media today, specifically taking aim at terms that fans and analysts use every single Sunday.

Loss
Nov 5, 2018
#3035
Merril HogeMerril Hoge

Subconcussion is not a scientific term and its use is misleading

You just used it as if it's common knowledge... You used the word subconcussion. They haven't even gone through the proper science steps to qualify that as science. ... It's not scientific and so the point is when you don't do the steps of science... there's so many science papers that talk about the abuse of that word, how it's misleading.

The term is widely used in medical literature (e.g. Cleveland Clinic) to describe head impacts that don't result in clinical concussion symptoms but may cause damage, contradicting Hoge.

While Big Cat and PFT Commenter pushed back on the idea of a literal "plot," Hoge remained steadfast that there is a coordinated effort to legislatively kill the game.

Void
Nov 5, 2018
#3033
Merril HogeMerril Hoge

There is a coordinated plot to destroy the game of football

I don't think there's any question there is [a plot]. When you think about... how many sports do you know where there's legislation to try to ban a particular sport, tackle football? Do you know of any other sport?

This is highly subjective and leans into conspiracy territory, though legislative efforts against youth tackle football are factual.

Stay Woke and Final Thoughts

The show wraps up with an all-time Stay Woke from PFT Commenter regarding LeBron James, the Lakers' salary cap, and a movie that has been in development for what feels like a century.

Loss
Nov 5, 2018·Stay Woke
#3037
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Space Jam 2 is a front for LeBron James to pay free agents extra money outside the salary cap

Couldnt you just offer [a superstar] a role in Space Jam 2 and through your production company pay him, I don't know, $30 million a year? Kevin Durant takes the veteran minimum on the books and... He's got a fake movie. Follow the checks. Follow the money.

While Space Jam 2 was eventually released, there is no evidence it was used as a cap-circumvention tool for free agents like Kevin Durant.

If Kevin Durant ends up as a Monstar on the Lakers' roster next year, remember where you heard it first.

Hopefully Big Cat doesn't actually have to lose that pinky.

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Win
Nov 5, 2018
#25966
Big CatBig Cat

I will cut off the tip of my pinky if the Texans win the Super Bowl

The Texans have won six straight. They started 0-3. We [Done Chained] them. They've got six straight. If they win the Super Bowl, I have to cut off the tip of my pinky, which I actually feel fine. I'm fine.

The Texans lost in the Wild Card round to the Colts, so Big Cat's pinky was spared.
Loss
Nov 5, 2018
#3030
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Redskins will win the NFC East because the rest of the division sucks

Redskins NFC [East winners] since like week two... and it's not because I think that they're that good of a team. I think the division sucks.

The Cowboys won the NFC East in 2018. The Redskins finished 7-9.
Win
Nov 5, 2018
#3031
Big CatBig Cat

The Eagles will eventually shake off their Super Bowl hangover and wake up

I just think the Eagles are going to come on because that's just, they feel get over their Super Bowl hangover. They're going to get over it. They're going to finally wake up.

The Eagles did 'wake up' and won their final three games to secure a wild card spot and then won a playoff game (Double Doink).
Win
Nov 5, 2018·Who's Back
#25968
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Floyd Mayweather is a certified idiot if he agrees to anything other than a boxing match against Tenshin Nasukawa

If it's anything but a boxing match, Floyd Mayweather is a certified idiot. ... That's why I think he's going to get kicked in the face. Yeah, this is all fake.

The fight was eventually sanctioned as an exhibition boxing match, proving PFT right that Floyd wouldn't risk an MMA/kickboxing match.
Void
Nov 5, 2018·Who's Back
#25969
Big CatBig Cat

Tom Herman's complaints about Will Grier's celebration are hypocritical given his own past behavior

If you remember just a year ago when they were in a bowl game against Missouri and [Herman] was mocking Drew Lock in his gun salute, he was basically showing up the other team. And then when he loses, he's crying to the media and saying that Will Grier was unfair.

This is a subjective assessment of Herman's character and consistency.
Void
Nov 5, 2018
#3036
Big CatBig Cat

Gold Glove is the dumbest award in sports

Gold Glove is the dumbest reward possible. And I'm not saying that just because Javi Baez didn't win one he should have. It's still the dumbest reward. ... I feel like if you get one gold glove you just end up getting gold gloves for life.

The award is inherently subjective and based on voting, so its 'dumbness' cannot be proven or disproven.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Bob Ryan's 'true sports fan' tweet was essentially correct despite the backlash

Everyone hated him for this. I don't think it's – I think he obviously went a little too hard. But the bones of this argument are kind of right. There are people who I think are fans of their teams only. And then there are people who are fans of sports in general. I think that's the better argument.

This is a subjective opinion on how to define a 'true fan.'

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