Mark Leibovich and Dana Holgorsen on NFL Secrets and Big Balls
Big Ben is officially back from the dead after the Steelers absolutely dismantled the Panthers on Thursday night. Watching Ben get up to cruising speed is like watching a boulder roll downhill or a Dodge truck towing seventeen trees. He’s terrifying in the open field, mostly because his head is a giant red button that defenders just want to touch.
The Steelers are a factor in the AFC playoff race
I'm ready to declare the Steelers are back. No, they're a factor. That's what I'm going to call them. They're going to be a factor. They could make some noise. Big Ben plays better when he's dead.
Dez Bryant finally found a home with the New Orleans Saints, which is a disaster for Jerry Jones and a dream for anyone who loves drama. Big Cat expects Dez to feast in Sean Payton’s offense, while PFT has a more calculated theory about why the move actually happened.
Dez Bryant will be a massive goal-line threat for the Saints
Dez Bryant in Sean Payton's offense is going to be like a goal line threat. He's going to be open because they've got to cover everyone else. And he's going to put up numbers.
Sean Payton signed Dez Bryant to pick his brain for the Cowboys job next year
My other thing about this is I think Sean Payton signed [Dez Bryant] so that he could pick his brains about the Dallas offense and all the players on that team so that Sean, when he takes the Dallas job next year...
Week 10 Preview and Picks
It’s a "loser leaves town" week for the Cowboys and Eagles. Big Cat is convinced that Philly is about to turn the corner and bury Dallas for good. Meanwhile, PFT is leaning on the power of simulations to stay loyal to the R-Words.
The Eagles will beat the Cowboys and start a winning run
I actually have that as my loser leaves town game. Cowboys at Eagles. Losers leaves town because essentially the Eagles, I have a feeling the Eagles will start their run here. This will be the point where you're like, okay, now the Eagles are starting to turn it around.
The Redskins will win the NFC East
Now I want to point out that Mike Tanyer... ran a simulation of the rest of the season... And the R-Words still won the division. So don't jump the gun on the Eagles just yet. Now I'm 100% back in on the R-Words train after learning about the simulation.
For the rest of the slate, Big Cat is looking for pride in Seattle. Even if the Rams are the better team, a nine-and-a-half point spread feels like a personal insult to Pete Carroll's legacy.
The Seahawks will cover +9.5 against the Rams because they have pride
I like the Seahawks plus nine and a half... Seahawks, like, say what you want about the last Pete Carroll run. They still have pride. And a nine-and-a-half point spread is just do you have pride or not. Because the teams that have pride, they don't lose by double digits.
Mark Leibovich: Inside the Billionaires' Club
Author Mark Leibovich joined the show to discuss his book, *Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times*. He spent years embedded with the owners and Roger Goodell, which resulted in some truly bizarre stories. The highlight? Jerry Jones getting Leibovich over-served on his private bus and explaining his history of masturbating into his own shoes. Leibovich paints a picture of a league run by billionaires who are basically in junior high school.
Roger Goodell stays in power by ensuring there are no strong successors
Part of the savviness of Roger Goodell is that if you want to stay in power a long time, don't hire strong number twos and threes that can replace you. And he has never hired or groomed, let alone even identified a successor.
Beyond the weird bus stories, Leibovich offered a grim outlook for the league's front office. He believes the real danger to the NFL isn't just player safety, but the lack of anyone competent waiting in the wings to lead.
Incompetent leadership is the biggest long-term threat to the NFL
I think ultimately the incompetence of the people who run it is going to wear it down because there is no long-term thinking among any of these owners... So I think that the crisis of leadership is the biggest long-term threat to the league, perhaps.
Coach Dana Holgorsen: Football Guy of the Week
West Virginia head coach and friend of the program Dana Holgorsen called in to accept his Football Guy of the Week award. After the Mountaineers beat Texas on a gutsy two-point conversion, the "big balls" narrative has followed Dana everywhere. He insists the decision was easy because he has the ultimate equalizer under center.
Will Grier is the best player in college football
I don't know where that [big balls narrative] come from, honestly, because I got the best player in college football in Will Grier, so those decisions are pretty easy.
Dana also explained the "horns down" controversy and why the state of West Virginia is shaped like someone flipping the bird. He plans to celebrate his PMT award by having his staff print it out so he can crumple it up and eat it to motivate the team for TCU.
Fantasy Fuccbois and Grab Bag
Fantasy Fuccbois featured Joey Badafuko, Johnny Jello Shots, and Gabrielle Gabigol. Big Cat is all-in on Julio Jones finally finding the end zone, while Hank is making the boldest cross-sport claim in show history regarding the Duke Blue Devils.
Duke could beat the Cleveland Cavaliers
Zion Williamson, R.J. Barrett, Alex O'Connell. It's the big three, and Paul Pierce told them they could beat the Cavs, and they could. Dukes, yeah.
Julio Jones will score three touchdowns against the Browns
Julio Jones. The floodgates are open. He scored a touchdown last week. He's going to score three this week. Three touchdowns against the Cleveland Browns. Start him, start him, start him.
To wrap things up, Hank’s Grab Bag touched on the mysterious math of QB ratings and the hygiene of bar soap. Hank stood his ground on the idea that soap is self-cleaning, much to the confusion of everyone else in the room.
Soap can't get dirty because it cleans itself
My friend uses a bar of soap to clean his ass crack and uses it the next day on his whole body... He says soap can't get dirty, so it's fine. [Hank says] He's right. You're wrong. It's like soap cleans itself all the time because it's layers.
Next week we’ve got Robert Klemko and Tom Fornelli to recap the weekend. Good luck to everyone's bets except the ones Larry the Goldfish picked against.

