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Alex Caruso From The OKC Thunder, Comedian Ray Romano, Indiana Pacers Are In The NBA Finals + National Sports Podcast News

Monday, June 2, 202515 takes

The Indiana Pacers are on to the Final and we talk about their big win Saturday night, how they got here and where the Knicks go from here. Jerry O'Connell calls Hank randomly and its the death of the Bing Bong (-). National Sports podcast and Scottie Scheffler is unstoppable and we talk some baseball (-). Who's back of the week including Taylor Swift and Rebecca Romijn (-). Alex Caruso joins the show to talk about the Thunder's run to the Finals, what it will be like to play in front of fans for a Finals, playing relentless defense, Jokic and tons more (-). Ray Romano joins the show to talk about upcoming golf tournament in Tahoe, sports fandom, and his kids growing up (-). We finish with lottery ball (-).

Alex Caruso and Ray Romano on the NBA Finals, OKC's Dynasty, and Golf Tips

The Indiana Pacers are officially headed to the NBA Finals in 49 states, while in Indiana, it’s just another Monday because basketball is life. Big Cat and PFT opened the show by giving the Pacers their flowers after they dismantled the Knicks on the road. While Pascal Siakam took home the Eastern Conference Finals MVP, Big Cat made sure to point out who the real engine of that team is.

Void
Jun 2, 2025
#1564
Big CatBig Cat

Tyrese Haliburton is the most important player on the Indiana Pacers

Tyrese Haliburton is the straw that stirs the drink. Correct. He is. I mean, without Tyrese, none of this works. The instant baskets after a made layup. Those don't happen without him out-letting the ball down the court. He's the most important player, I think on the team.

While Siakam won the MVP for that specific series, Haliburton is widely considered the franchise cornerstone.

The conversation naturally shifted to the defensive masterclass put on by Andrew Nembhard. The guy has spent the entire postseason turning elite scorers into absolute pumpkins. Big Cat noted that Nembhard’s defensive stats against the likes of Lillard, Mitchell, and now Brunson are the stuff of legend.

Win
Jun 2, 2025
#24288
Big CatBig Cat

Andrew Nembhard is an elite defender based on his playoff performance against Lillard, Mitchell, and Brunson

Andrew Nembhard... was incredible... he was playing ferocious defense on [Brunson]... through the playoffs, he, when he, he's a primary defender. Damien Lillard... 23.3% field goal percentage... Donovan Mitchell... 23.3% field goal percentage... And then against Jalen Brunson, 38.2% field goal percentage... He was awesome.

The stats provided are factual for that specific playoff run, and Nembhard's defensive reputation grew significantly during this period.

The Death of the Bing Bong

Just as the guys were digging into the autopsy of the Knicks' season, Jerry O'Connell called Hank’s cell phone while literally sitting in a bathtub. It was a bizarre, classic PMT moment that featured Jerry trying to broker peace between Big Cat and his wife, Rebecca Romijn, after some Twitter blocking drama. Once the domestic disputes were settled, the focus returned to why the Knicks are watching the Finals from home. Hank isn't buying the "overachieved" narrative that Memes and other Knicks fans are leaning on.

Void
Jun 2, 2025
#1566
HankHank

The New York Knicks will regret not going further in the 2025 playoffs

I think when time comes and you look back at this year, you're gonna regret not going farther. And you're gonna understand how golden of an opportunity this was to get to the finals with all of the injuries and the path just opening wide up.

This is subjective, as it depends on future Knicks success, but the 2025 East was notably injury-plagued.

Big Cat also came to the defense of Karl-Anthony Towns, who seems to be the designated fall guy every time a team he's on gets eliminated.

Void
Jun 2, 2025
#1567
Big CatBig Cat

Karl-Anthony Towns is the greatest scapegoat in NBA history

I think Kat [Karl-Anthony Towns] is the greatest scapegoat in NBA history in terms of like, this happened with him with the Timberwolves too. And I'm not saying the Kat is a perfect player... But Kat is not like your only problem. He's still a big guy. And you'd rather, if you have a problem on defense, you'd rather he be a large man than a small man.

Towns has a long history of being the primary target for criticism on his teams, making the 'scapegoat' label a valid point of debate.

PFT was a bit more critical of the Knicks' star guard, pointing out that while he carries the offense, the defensive end is a different story.

Void
Jun 2, 2025
#24291
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jalen Brunson is a liability on defense

you have to admit that Jalen Brunson is a liability on defense. Yes.

Subjective but backed by defensive metrics often citing Brunson's size as a limitation.

Alex Caruso Previews the Finals

Friend of the program Alex Caruso joined the show to talk about the Thunder’s run to the Finals. He’s the veteran presence on a young OKC team, though he joked about the difference between winning a ring in the "Mickey Mouse" bubble versus playing in front of a real crowd this time around. Big Cat is so high on this Thunder core that he’s already looking past this year and projecting a massive run of success.

Open
Jun 2, 2025
#1571
Big CatBig Cat

The 2025 OKC Thunder championship will be the worst title of their upcoming dynasty

We have gotten ahead of it and we think this actually will be the worst Thunder team to win a title in their dynasty run. 'cause you guys [Alex Caruso] are probably gonna win like six in a row. So you're saying this is the worst this year? Yeah. We just back where we'll be like, can you believe that team won?

A double prediction: OKC wins multiple titles, and this is the weakest team. Extremely bold.

Caruso gave some incredible insight into the physical toll of the postseason, specifically what it's like trying to guard the Joker.

Void
Jun 2, 2025
#24293
Alex CarusoAlex Caruso

Nikola Jokic is immovable and possesses the strength of an NFL offensive tackle

the dude is like, he's like offensive tackle strong. Like, he's like immovable, right? And then he doesn't like make these super aggressive moves to get into the post. He just like takes, takes a foot bumps you, takes another foot bumps you.

Expert opinion from an active NBA player.

Ray Romano and Who's Back

Ray Romano hopped on to talk about the upcoming American Century Celebrity Golf Championship in Tahoe. Ray is a 14-handicap who is desperate to break the top 50 this year, mostly so he doesn't have to hear it from Charles Barkley. They also touched on his Jets fandom, where Ray is cautiously optimistic about the new-look offense now that they have a quarterback who can actually move.

Loss
Jun 2, 2025
#1572
Ray RomanoRay Romano

The Jets have a chance this season because they finally have a mobile quarterback

I guess my question is, you know, do we have a chance? I mean, he's a great guy. He is a runner. Right? At least we got a runner. I always have faith.

Since Fields was not actually on the Jets, the premise of the take is factually flawed.

In Who's Back, the guys covered Taylor Swift finally owning her masters (emotional labor for the Swifties), Bonnie Blue’s escalating numbers, and the upcoming Stanley Cup Final. Big Cat and Hank are split on the hockey results, with Big Cat riding with Connor McDavid.

Loss
Jun 2, 2025·Who's Back
#1570
Big CatBig Cat

The Oilers will win the Stanley Cup in seven games

I think it's Oilers. I got Oilers in seven. I think it's Oilers.

The Oilers lost the Stanley Cup Final to the Florida Panthers in 6 games (4-2). They did not win the Cup.

Hank, ever the contrarian, is heading down south for his pick.

Loss
Jun 2, 2025·Who's Back
#24292
HankHank

The Florida Panthers will win the Stanley Cup in five games

I'll go Panthers in five.

The Florida Panthers won the Stanley Cup but in six games against the Oilers, not five as predicted.

If the Pacers keep winning, just look for the girl in the Indiana jersey—she's the lucky charm.

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Void
Jun 2, 2025
#24289
Big CatBig Cat

The Pacers vs. Thunder NBA Finals matchup will be high-quality basketball despite being small markets

I actually think this is going to be a fun matchup. I think the Pacers obviously are gonna be tall task. 'cause OKC looks nearly unstoppable... since January 1st, the best two records in the NBA are the Oklahoma City Thunder... and the Indiana Pacers... I'm very excited for this matchup. And I think the Pacers are very much deserving. People are gonna be like, oh, well this, this sucks two smaller markets. The Pacers are just playing great basketball.

Subjective evaluation of the quality of a series.
Win
Jun 2, 2025
#1565
Big CatBig Cat

The Indiana Pacers are the best team in the Eastern Conference

The Pacers played the best basketball, the most consistently of any team in the postseason. Is that fair to say? Yeah, definitely. Okay. So ipso facto, they're the best team in the East.

They are in the finals, supporting the claim that they were the most effective playoff team in the East for that season.
Win
Jun 2, 2025
#24290
Big CatBig Cat

Caitlin Clark attending Pacers home games will guarantee the NBA Finals goes to at least six games

Caitlin Clark attends game four. She forced, it's guaranteed to go at least six... the Pacers are seven and oh, and Caitlin Clark is in attendance. Yeah. The Caitlin Clark in playoffs. In effect.

The 2025 NBA Finals did go to at least six games — it went the full seven games. While the 'Caitlin Clark effect' is tongue-in-cheek, the prediction that the Finals would go at least six games was correct.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Cal Raleigh is a legitimate MVP candidate and deserves more national attention

Cal Raleigh is the catcher for Seattle Mariners. He has 23 home runs and that's insane. It's nuts that he's doing this as a catcher... He won't win MVP, but he's got my vote. First catcher with 20 home runs before June.

Raleigh is statistically one of the best power-hitting catchers, though winning MVP is unlikely for a catcher on a non-dominant team.
Void
Jun 2, 2025
#1573
Ray RomanoRay Romano

Barry Bonds and Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame

I might be inclined to vote for Rose to get in, you know? And I think Barry Bonds should be in the Hall of Fame because everybody... most of the power hitters were, and he's by far the best hitter to ever play the sport. It's a museum at the end of the day.

This is a perennial debate in sports media with no objective resolution.

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