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NFL Week 8, Fastest 2 Minutes, Commanders Hail Mary, Jameis Is All The Way Back, The Jets Are Dead + World Series Talk

Monday, October 28, 202421 takes

Week 8 in the NFL and we start with the Fastest 2 Minutes. We then talk about every game from Sunday (-) Bears 15, Commanders 18 (-) Browns 29, Ravens 24 (-) Eagles 37, Bengals 17 (-) Falcons 31, Bucs 26 (-) Packers 30, Jags 27 (-) Cardinals 28, Dolphins 27 (-) Patriots 25, Jets 22 (-) Texans 23, Colts 20 (-) Lions 52, Titans 14 (-) Bills 31, Seahawks 10 (-) Chiefs 27, Raiders 20 (-) Broncos 28, Panthers 14 (-) Chargers 26, Saints 8 (-) Niners 30, Cowboys 24 (-) We talk World Series and who's back of the week. (-)

NFL Week 8: Commanders Hail Mary, Jameis is Back, and the Jets are Dead

Week 8 provided the kind of high-octane drama that makes the NFL the greatest reality show on earth. From a literal miracle in Maryland to the absolute funeral of the New York Jets season, Big Cat and PFT had plenty of blood to get through. The show kicked off with a mandatory breakdown of the afternoon window after a finish that left one host in physical pain and the other experiencing the highest high of his fandom.

The Hail Mary Heard 'Round the World

The Commanders took down the Bears in a game that was essentially a three-hour slog followed by one of the most improbable endings in league history. Big Cat was in visible distress describing the 12.7 seconds Jaden Daniels spent scrambling before launching the ball into a sea of humanity, only for it to be tipped directly into the hands of Noah Brown. While the execution was miraculous, PFT has a theory that the rookie's health was the real secret weapon.

Loss
Oct 28, 2024
#10202
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jayden Daniels' rib was never actually hurt

I have a theory that his rib was never actually hurt. I think that after that first run of the Panthers game, the coaching staff was like, 'Hey Jayden, it's the Panthers. You just ran easily for 50 yards. First play of the game, let Marcus take over, go to the training room.' And then all week long it was all secret.

Jayden Daniels was genuinely on the injury report and it was widely reported he had a rib issue, though he did play through it.

For the Bears, the loss was an indictment of the coaching staff and a specific defensive lapse by Tyrique Stevenson, who was caught on camera taunting fans while the ball was being snapped. Big Cat was quick to defend his rookie quarterback's resilience while calling for heads to roll in the coaching offices.

Void
Oct 28, 2024
#10204
Big CatBig Cat

I am not selling any stock in Caleb Williams despite his poor performance

Caleb, what he did in the fourth quarter is why I'm not, I'm not selling any of my stock in him. I know people will be like, he sucks, he's a bum, he's a bust. I got about a billion tweets of that. I don't care what he was doing in the fourth quarter. That throw to DJ Moore hanging in there where he is. Got no time getting killed. Yeah, I'm not. And then he threw that, that like sidearm underhand one. I'm not gonna change my opinion on Caleb Williams.

This is a long-term developmental opinion that remains subjective but shows high conviction during a low point.
Win
Oct 28, 2024
#10203
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears coaching staff is a joke and needs to be replaced immediately

I reaffirmed my opinion that this coaching staff is a joke. And we need to get rid of them as soon as possible because it's like they're, they're, they're a joke. They're a joke. Like that's a bye week. You come out of a bye-week looking like that.

The Bears eventually fired Shane Waldron and later Matt Eberflus, confirming the organizational failure.

Despite the heartbreak, Big Cat is clinging to the one silver lining for Chicago: their defense is elite enough to keep them competitive even when the offense is stuck in the mud for three quarters.

Loss
Oct 28, 2024
#26470
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears defense is good enough to keep the team in every game this season

The defense will keep us in pretty much every game. You saw it today. The defense is gonna keep us in every game. Caleb [Williams] was really bad for, for three full quarters... and if he plays even like B minus football, I think we win this game.

The Bears defense remained solid, but they did not keep the team in every game as the offense and coaching staff faltered during a long losing streak following this game.

Jameis Winston: The Great Liberator

The Cleveland Browns finally looked like a professional football team, and all it took was the insertion of Jameis Winston into the starting lineup. Jameis provided the full experience: a banger pre-game speech quoting Eminem, nearly 300 passing yards, and the kind of aggressive downfield throwing that Deshaun Watson simply refused to do. The contrast was so stark it made the Watson contract look even more like a historic disaster.

Win
Oct 28, 2024
#10205
Big CatBig Cat

Deshaun Watson has the worst contract in the history of sports

Deshaun Watson already had the worst contract in football, probably in history... It just further proves how horrifically awful the Deshaun Watson contract was.

The contract is universally panned by analysts and the Browns' performance improved significantly without him.

Jameis didn't just win a game; he potentially saved the reputation of Kevin Stefanski by proving the roster was never the problem. Big Cat is already looking ahead to where the famous turnover-prone but high-ceiling gunslinger might land next season.

Push
Oct 28, 2024
#10206
Big CatBig Cat

Jameis Winston should be a starting quarterback in the NFL in 2025

Jameis needs to be a starter in the league next year, week one.

Winston signed with the Giants as a backup behind Russell Wilson and rookie Jaxson Dart. He was named the starter in Week 11 after Wilson's benching. He got starts but was not a Week 1 starter as suggested.

Juggernauts and Jobs in Jeopardy

The Detroit Lions continued their scorched-earth tour of the NFL by dropping 52 points on the Titans while barely needing Jared Goff to throw the ball. Between special teams touchdowns and a ground game that is statistically historic, the Lions have established themselves as the class of the league.

Win
Oct 28, 2024
#26475
Big CatBig Cat

The Lions are an absolute juggernaut and the best team in the NFL right now

The Lions are just an absolute juggernaut right now. I don't know like, 'cause the Chiefs are undefeated, but... the Lions, it feels like what they've been doing in the last four games has been just outta this world.

The Lions continued their dominance, securing the 1-seed in the NFC and finishing with one of the best point differentials in the league.

While the Lions are ascending, the Jets have officially hit rock bottom. Losing to a rebuilding Patriots team while having zero turnovers and holding the opponent under 250 yards is a feat of incompetence that only the Jets could achieve. Memes was in full surrender mode, declaring the season dead while Big Cat demanded accountability for the kicking game.

Win
Oct 28, 2024
#10210
MemesMemes

The Jets' season is officially over

Nothing. The season's over. It's over. It's over, dude. We're right now... I've been saying we'll go like 11 and 6, blah blah, blah. We're right on pace for 2 and 15.

The Jets finished with a losing record and missed the playoffs.
Win
Oct 28, 2024
#26473
Big CatBig Cat

The Jets must cut Greg Zuerlein immediately because he is costing them games

Cut Greg Zuerlein. It's insane. The guy can't kick and you're losing games 'cause he can't kick... He can't kick and you just let him not kick as a kicker continually.

The Jets did effectively move on from Zuerlein shortly after this episode, placing him on IR and signing replacements after his disastrous start to the season.

World Series and Who's Back

The conversation shifted to the diamond where the Dodgers have taken a commanding lead over the Yankees. Big Cat didn't hold back on Aaron Judge's postseason struggles, calling him out for failing to live up to the pinstripes when the lights are brightest.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Judge is a regular season merchant who doesn't show up in the playoffs

The Yankees are just like Aaron Judge is a regular season merchant. All he does is hit home runs in the regular season, doesn't show up in the playoffs. Like that's a and and if there's one fanbase that will not tolerate that, it's the New York Yankees.

Judge's career postseason statistics are significantly lower than his regular season averages, though this remains an ongoing debate.
Win
Oct 28, 2024
#26477
Big CatBig Cat

The Dodgers are an unbeatable wagon

The Dodgers are just so fucking good. They're so goddamn good. Their bullpen's insane. Their, their plate discipline is insane... I don't know who's beating the Dodgers right now.

The Dodgers went on to win the World Series in five games, proving they were indeed the superior 'wagon'.

Between the Dodgers being a wagon and the Yankees making questionable managerial decisions, the series feels like it's slipping away from the Bronx. To wrap things up, the guys touched on Who's Back of the Week, where Hank managed to find some joy in the college basketball preseason after a rough football Sunday.

Win
Oct 28, 2024·Who's Back
#10213
HankHank

Duke basketball is back

Duke's back... They beat Arizona State by 50 in a scrimmage... They might be back. God damnit they might be back.

Duke made the Final Four as a #1 seed in 2025, with Cooper Flagg as a dominant freshman. They beat Alabama 85-65 in the Elite Eight before losing to Houston in the semis. Duke basketball was indeed 'back' as a national contender.

At least someone is happy heading into November.

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Win
Oct 28, 2024
#10207
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Bengals are officially cooked for the 2024 season

I feel like they're, they're cooked at this point... Having to do Saturn math. Bengals are gonna be taunted absolutely haunted by the 'In the Hunt' graphic later on this season.

The Bengals missed the playoffs in 2024, confirming they were indeed 'cooked'.
Win
Oct 28, 2024
#10208
Big CatBig Cat

The Atlanta Falcons have already won the NFC South

The Falcons now have a stranglehold on the NFC South... Congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons on winning the NFC South. You've done it. You've won the NFC South.

The Falcons did go on to win the NFC South title.
Open
Oct 28, 2024
#26471
Big CatBig Cat

Malik Willis will get a massive 'Matt Flynn' style contract from another team

Malik Willis is just a good quarterback now... [He] is going to, he's gonna probably get another shot somewhere. He's gonna get a nice contract. Yeah. He might Matt Flynn this thing.

Willis is still under contract with the Packers through 2025, so any potential 'Matt Flynn' contract would likely happen after that or via a trade and extension.
Loss
Oct 28, 2024
#10209
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cardinals are good enough to win the NFC West

I think the Cardinals are good enough to win that division. I don't think it's a good division. They beat the 49ers and the offense can look good. Yeah. The Cardinals are still in it.

The Cardinals fell out of first place later in the season as the 49ers and Rams improved, though they remained competitive.
Push
Oct 28, 2024
#26472
Big CatBig Cat

The Dolphins will be a dangerous spoiler team late in the season if Tua Tagovailoa stays healthy

The Dolphins are gonna play spoiler. They'll beat the team that they, that that is trying to go to the playoffs late in the season. If Tua stays healthy.

The Dolphins remained competitive but struggled to knock off elite teams late in the year, though they did play several close games against contenders.
Void
Oct 28, 2024
#26474
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco would have won the game for the Colts against the Texans

I do think Joe Flacco probably wins this game... That's the thing about the Colts, they're constantly one score away. Right. With bad quarterback play. If you have average quarterback play, you win these kinds of games.

This is a subjective hypothetical, though Flacco did perform better than Richardson in several relief appearances during the season.
Win
Oct 28, 2024
#10211
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Buffalo Bills have already won the AFC East

The Bills are just a good team. They have as many wins as the rest of the AFC East combined... Congratulations. The Buffalo Bills for they've won the AFC East. I think that's pretty much wrapped up.

The Bills did win the AFC East title.
Win
Oct 28, 2024
#26476
Big CatBig Cat

The Buffalo Bills are legitimate Super Bowl contenders

The Bills are just really good. Max even said it. He was like, why don't we talk about the Bills being like true Super Bowl contenders. I think we do.

The Bills finished the season as one of the hottest teams in the league and were widely considered a top-3 Super Bowl favorite heading into the playoffs.
Void
Oct 28, 2024
#26478
HankHank

Aaron Boone cost the Yankees World Series Game 1 with poor bullpen management

I got tremendous joy outta the fact that game one Aaron Boone made... basically cost him the game... by putting someone in [Nestor Cortes] who hasn't played meaningful baseball in, in a month.

This is a subjective evaluation of managerial strategy, though it was widely panned by analysts and fans alike.

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