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Joe Buck, Artie Lange, and Paul Rudd - An Oral History Of HBO’s Joe Buck Live

Friday, August 24, 20188 takes

This very special episode of Pardon My Take leads us on a deep dive of the inaugural infamous episode of Joe Buck Live from June 15, 2009 that was derailed by Artie Lange, ultimately leading to the show's cancellation. We interview Joe, Artie, and Paul Rudd (who was also a panelist on the show) and get a behind the scenes look at what happened before the show, the incident itself, and the ensuing aftermath. Video of the Joe Buck Live appearance can be found here: https://youtu.be/pj8y2Oi1lFk

Recap

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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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I would not have the same relationship with Joe Buck today if it weren't for the Artie Lange incident

If it wasn't for that Artie Lange show, I don't think that we would have the conversations that we have with Joe Buck.

This is subjective but mirrors the general consensus of Buck's public rebranding after the incident.

Interview

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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Brett Favre and Chad Ochocinco were the real reasons 'Joe Buck Live' was a disaster

Now look, the real culprits to me are fucking Chad Ochocinco and Brett Favre. They were the first 45 minutes of an hour show... and they were boars. They're typical like Dennis Rodman type stuff where they think just because they have orange hair or they change their name they could sit there... but they're just boring people.

The show is widely remembered for Artie, not the boring interviews, making this a classic contrarian Artie take.
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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Joe BuckJoe Buck

HBO was hypocritical for policing Artie Lange's content while airing shows like 'Real Sex'

You can't be on HBO and go, well, this is just way too much when you've got like Pornucopia that's on after that. Real Sex, which is, you know, that's about as far as you're going to go on normal cable. Taxi Cab Confessions. We could go on.

It's a logical point about network branding consistency, though subjective.
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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Sitting on stage with Artie Lange felt like being a member of Billy Bob Thornton's band

I remember thinking, oh, this is what it feels like to be in [Billy Bob] Thornton's band. Just because I remember about that same month, I think, there was this viral clip of Billy Bob Thornton on a radio show talking about his music... and his bandmates just kind of sitting there and not really saying much and kind of taking it all in.

Perfectly describes the vibe of the viral 2009 Q Radio interview with Billy Bob Thornton.
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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Joe BuckJoe Buck

I threatened to quit my HBO show if they didn't let Artie Lange return for the second episode

I said, I'm either going to have Artie on the show for the second one, or I'm not going to do the show. And I quit. I said, not that this is me walking out of the presidency of the United States... But I said, I'm employed at Fox. I'm doing the World Series and the Super Bowl. You don't know me... But if you think I can't laugh at this... I am not going to go out there and act like it didn't happen.

The show was indeed canceled shortly after, and Buck has consistently told this story about his ultimatum to Richard Plepler.
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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Artie LangeArtie Lange

Athletes are inherently difficult to get good interviews out of

Athletes are tough to get a good interview out of. So I don't think it was my fault, but I think Joe got fucked too.

This is a subjective opinion on the quality of athletes as media guests.
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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Joe BuckJoe Buck

I would handle the Artie Lange incident much better and more authentically today

If you saw Joe Buck 2018 in that same spot, I think I would have rolled with the punches maybe a little bit better on air. I think I would have been different. I think I would have been better with it, and I would have been more equipped... having gone through this vocal thing that I went through, kind of not really caring anymore what people think... I would have handled the moment probably better.

This is a subjective self-assessment of his personal growth.
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Take Slip·Aug 24, 2018
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Joe BuckJoe Buck

I have unfinished business with hosting a talk show and would do it again

Yeah, I feel like it's unfinished business. I haven't failed at a lot of stuff in my life... but that was like, man, that really left me disappointed in the result, maybe in myself, in the circumstances. Yeah, I'd like to do it. I had a show and a pilot I did with Rudd and with David Spade and with Molly Shannon for a late-night Fox show that never saw the light of day that I'm really proud of.

Buck has not yet returned to a high-profile comedic late-night show since this interview, though he continues to branch out beyond play-by-play.