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NFL Week 12, Fastest 2 Minutes, Thanksgiving Football, The Jaguars Are For Real And The Eagles Ended The Bills

Monday, November 27, 202323 takes

We start with Fastest 2 minutes. Then talk about every game from Thursday, Friday and Sunday (-) Packers 29, Lions 22 (-) Cowboys 45, Commanders 10 (-) 49ers 31, Seahawks 13 (-) Dolphins 34, Jets 13 (-) Jaguars 24, Texans 21 (-) Colts 27, Bucs 20 (-) Falcons 24, Saints 15 (-) Steelers 16, Bengals 10 (-) Giants 10, Patriots 7 (-) Titans 17, Panthers 10 (-) Rams 37, Cardinals 14 (-) Broncos 29, Browns 12 (-) Chiefs 31, Raiders 17 (-) Eagles 37, Bills 34 (-) Ravens 20, Chargers 10(-) We finish up with who's back of the week and lottery ball. (-)

Big Cat (13)PFT Commenter (7)Jake Marsh (2)Hank (1)

NFL Week 12: Jags-Texans, Eagles' Epic Win, and the Patriots' Masterclass Tank

We survived the Thanksgiving gauntlet, even if our bodies are currently 95% Pepto Bismol and stuffing. Between the waxing gibbous moon ruining the Lions' holiday and the Cowboys hiding turkeys in the Salvation Army bucket, Week 12 was a fever dream of elite football and absolute bottom-tier coaching.

Jordan Love and the NFC Playoff Mess

Starting on Thanksgiving, the Packers might have actually stumbled into something. Jordan Love looked like a guy who belongs in the league, and as a Bears fan, Big Cat is starting to see his life flash before his eyes. The Packers are suddenly in the hunt, and the schedule is looking incredibly soft for a team we all buried in October.

Win
Nov 27, 2023
#18349
Big CatBig Cat

Jordan Love might actually be good

Jordan Love might actually be good. And it's starting to scare me. He might actually be good. And this is the difference between dysfunctional franchises and functional franchises like the Green Bay Packers... I know Packers fans can't use this against me. I think Jordan Love might be good.

OpinionFootballHot
Jordan Love finished the season with 32 touchdowns and led the Packers to a dominant playoff win over the Cowboys, establishing himself as a top-tier starter.
Win
Nov 27, 2023
#18352
Big CatBig Cat

The Packers will probably get to 9 or 10 wins and make the playoffs

The Packers are gonna probably get to nine or 10 wins. And I'm gonna have to, I'm gonna have to kill myself... I think Jordan Love might be good... they still have the Giants, the Bucs and the Panthers on their schedule.

PredictionFootballMedium
The Packers finished 9-8 and secured the 7th seed in the NFC playoffs.

While Green Bay is ascending, the Seahawks are falling off a cliff. After getting dismantled by the Niners, it's clear that the early-season magic in Seattle has evaporated. Big Cat isn't waiting around for the turnaround.

Void
Nov 27, 2023
#23576
Big CatBig Cat

I am officially writing off Geno Smith

I will absolutely write Geno [Smith] off. I'm gonna take the Cowboys on Thursday night when they're at home against Seahawks. I think the Seahawks are in deep, deep trouble... Geno does not look right.

OpinionFootballMediumSubjective
Geno Smith's performance was inconsistent, but he finished the season as a Pro Bowl alternate, though the Seahawks missed the playoffs.

The Future of the AFC South

Sunday gave us a glimpse of the next decade in the AFC South. Trevor Lawrence and CJ Stroud went blow-for-blow in a game that came down to a crossbar. The Jags looks like a legitimate threat for the one-seed, but the Texans aren't going anywhere. PFT is ready to crown the division as the new home of the league's elite arms.

Void
Nov 27, 2023
#18361
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The AFC South is the future conference of quarterbacks

I'm willing to say that the AFC South, that is the Future Conference of quarterbacks. The Young Guns... Stroud and Lawrence. This game was awesome... I'm very excited to watch the Jags and the Texans play for the next 30 years.

OpinionFootballMediumSubjective
Both Lawrence and Stroud are considered franchise pillars, and Richardson showed promise, making this look like a solid long-term assessment.

Speaking of the AFC South, the Colts are somehow the seven-seed right now. Shane Steichen has Gardner Minshew winning games and Jonathan Taylor looking like his old self.

Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#18364
Big CatBig Cat

Shane Steichen is the Coach of the Year

The Colts getting to nine, possibly 10 wins, which is crazy. This is Shane Steichen, coach of the year. Yeah. Him, coach of the year.

OpinionFootballMedium
Shane Steichen finished 9-8 and missed the playoffs; Kevin Stefanski (Browns) won the Coach of the Year award.

Dysfunction in New York and New England

The Black Friday game was an all-time Jets disaster. Tim Boyle starting because he isn't Zach Wilson only to have a Hail Mary returned 99 yards for a touchdown is the most Jets sequence in history. There is a growing sense that the Aaron Rodgers aura might be doing more harm than good for the guys currently in the building.

Void
Nov 27, 2023
#18358
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers held the Jets hostage by suggesting a return this season

I'm starting to just toss around the idea that [Aaron Rodgers] saying that he's going to come back this year might've hurt the Jets a little bit in the fact that they didn't go out and try to get another quarterback... Did Aaron Rodgers hold you guys hostage this year?

OpinionFootballHotSubjective
Subjective opinion on roster management, but widely shared by critics of the Jets' 2023 season.

Meanwhile, the Patriots are doing something they haven't done in twenty years: tanking with elite efficiency. They lost 10-7 to Tommy DeVito and the Giants in a game that set offensive football back several decades. While New England is in line for a top pick, Hank is already putting his foot down on who they should draft.

Void
Nov 27, 2023
#18365
HankHank

I don't want Caleb Williams on the Patriots

I don't want Caleb Williams. I'll say it right now. Really? Oh, oh, fingernails. Was it the crying? It's the crying thing. I, I have no problem with the fingernails, but I don't, I don't really have a problem with the crying. I just don't know. I feel like there's just a lot of character issues.

OpinionFootballHotSubjective
The Patriots ended up drafting Drake May after the Bears took Caleb Williams #1. Subjective on whether he 'wanted' him, but Williams went #1 and is the starter in Chicago.

The Bills' Heartbreak and Philly's Magic

The game of the week lived up to the hype in the rain in Philly. Josh Allen played one of the best games of his career, but it didn't matter because the Eagles simply refuse to lose. Whether it's Jake Elliott nuking a 59-yarder in the mud or Jalen Hurts finding a way in overtime, the Eagles have that

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Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#18347
Big CatBig Cat

Justin Tucker might be washed

Justin Tucker just missed a easy kick. He might be, is he washed? Washed? He might be washed. Yeah. He's on washed watch. He might, he might be washed.

OpinionFootballHot
Tucker finished the season with an 86.5% field goal percentage, which is slightly down from his career average but still elite. He was not truly 'washed' by standard metrics.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#23574
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Vikings will be in the division race if they beat the Bears on Monday Night Football

The Vikings also have a very real chance if they beat the Bears on Monday Night Football, the Vikings could be in the discussion for the Division. I mean, they still have to play the Lions twice.

PredictionFootballMedium
The Vikings lost to the Bears the following night and finished the season 7-10, well behind the division-winning Lions.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#23575
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ron Rivera made a side deal to finish the season while Eric Bieniemy acts as the de facto head coach

My theory is Ron Rivera's gonna take over the defense. He's gonna retire at the end of the season. He made a side deal with Josh Harris being like, please don't fire me. I'm gonna stick around. I'm gonna let Eric Bieniemy run the show. He's gonna act like the head coach... He's gonna get a shot to prove himself and then clean house after the season's over.

OpinionFootballHot
Ron Rivera was fired at the end of the season and the team hired Dan Quinn, while Eric Bieniemy was not retained as head coach.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#18354
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cowboys could win the Super Bowl

I I think the Cowboys could win the Super Bowl. Yeah, definitely. Without a doubt... Cowboys could a hundred percent win the Super Bowl. I'm not downplaying that at all. I still think the 49ers are better. I think the Eagles are better. But depending how on how it all shakes out. The Cowboys are, they're in that conversation.

OpinionFootballMedium
The Cowboys lost in the first round of the playoffs to the Packers, so they did not win the Super Bowl.
Void
Nov 27, 2023
#18355
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Brock Purdy is now a gunslinger

Is Brock Purdy now a gunslinger? Ooh. Has he transitioned from being a game manager? A guy that won't lose you a game to like, you know, then he was a system quarterback for a little bit and then he went and got so much moxie that I think he might be part gunslinger.

OpinionFootballMediumSubjective
Purdy finished the season leading the NFL in yards per attempt and several efficiency metrics, supporting the idea that he's more than a manager, though 'gunslinger' is subjective.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#18359
Jake MarshJake Marsh

The Dolphins will be 11-3 heading into Christmas

Listen, [the Dolphins] have a chance to really get in a groove here. They've Commanders, Titans, Jets. Ooh, there, there's a very good chance they're 11 and three heading into Christmas.

PredictionFootballMild
The Dolphins beat the Commanders, lost to the Titans, and beat the Jets. They were 10-4 heading into Christmas, so this was slightly off.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#23577
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons will win the NFC South

This is where the Falcons are gonna maybe string off a couple wins and, and take the NFC South. They're the king turd that's on top. And I think that they've got the best layout for, for holding onto that until the playoffs.

PredictionFootballMedium
The Tampa Bay Buccaneers won the NFC South with a 9-8 record.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#18366
Big CatBig Cat

The Panthers won't win another game

I don't think the Panthers are gonna win a game again... at Buccaneers: loss. at Saints: loss. Falcons: loss. Packers: loss. at Jaguars: loss. Probably Buccaneers again.

PredictionFootballHot
The Panthers won their game against the Atlanta Falcons 9-7 on December 17, 2023.
Win
Nov 27, 2023
#23578
Big CatBig Cat

The Bills and Texans will both make the playoffs as wild card teams

[Asked who makes the playoffs]: Texans, Bills. I would like to see CJ Stroud or Josh Allen as the seventh seed... I've taken the Dolphins off Fraud watch... [but] I'm high on the Dolphins.

PredictionFootballMedium
Both the Bills and the Texans made the playoffs, with the Texans winning the AFC South and the Bills winning the AFC East.
Win
Nov 27, 2023
#18367
Big CatBig Cat

Rashee Rice will emerge as the primary receiver for the Chiefs

This is the old visualization trick... it's late December. And Aaron Andrews is like, talk to me about how these young receivers have come along. And then they show a highlighter Rashee Rice just like ripping people up. And that's exactly what's gonna happen.

PredictionFootballMedium
Rice became the clear #1 wide receiver for the Chiefs and was instrumental in their Super Bowl run.
Push
Nov 27, 2023
#18368
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Eagles are lucky, but they make their own luck

They're lucky, but they're lucky all the time. Right. Which means that they're doing things to make themselves lucky. And they, which is such a good trait to have for a team. Right?

OpinionFootballMild
The 'luck' eventually ran out as the Eagles collapsed down the stretch, losing 5 of their last 6 regular-season games and their playoff game.
Void
Nov 27, 2023
#18369
Big CatBig Cat

Sean McDermott has the coaching yips

Sean McDermott, it's, he, he's, I honestly think he has like the coaching yips right now... [He's] making no sense. And then they go and they kneel it and they play chicken shit football for overtime.

OpinionFootballHotSubjective
Subjective opinion on coaching performance, but the Bills' defensive struggles in high-leverage late-game situations continued to be a talking point.
Loss
Nov 27, 2023
#23579
Big CatBig Cat

I love the Eagles to beat the 49ers next week

I love the Eagles next week. Yeah. It's a revenge game for the Eagles, for the Niners saying that they only lost because of Brock Purdy. They kind of took away your win. I love the Eagles next week.

PredictionFootballMedium
The 49ers defeated the Eagles 42-19.
Win
Nov 27, 2023
#23580
Big CatBig Cat

The 7th seed in the AFC will require 10 wins to qualify

Reasonably speaking, I think the seventh seed in the AFC has to get to 10 wins. Yeah. So [the Bills] have to go four and one in the rest of the season.

PredictionFootballMedium
The 7th seed in the AFC (Pittsburgh Steelers) finished with exactly 10 wins.
Win
Nov 27, 2023
#23581
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Austin Ekeler is old and washed

Austin Ekeler's hurt, or at least he's running really slow. He's old washed. Justin Herbert leads the league in sick passes and runs that don't really amount to any any points on the board.

OpinionFootballHot
Ekeler had his least productive season since 2018, finishing with just 628 rushing yards and a 3.5 yard average.
Void
Nov 27, 2023·Who's Back
#18370
Jake MarshJake Marsh

Greg Popovich's move to stop fans from booing was great sportsmanship

My who's back is sportsmanship. Oh. Last week in San Antonio, Greg Popovich during Kawhi Leonard's free throws... he hopped on the mic and he told the fans to stop booing... It was sportsmanship at its finest.

OpinionBasketballHotSubjective
Purely a matter of opinion on how sports should be conducted.
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