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NFL Week 12 Recap, Fastest 2 Minutes And Football Guy Of The Week

Monday, November 25, 201919 takes

NFL Week 12 Fastest 2 Minutes. (-) Recapping every game from Sunday.(-) Jameis is the most entertaining QB in the league, Dan Quinn is back on his bullshit. Frank Gore for the Hall of Fame and he reminds us how great Barry Sanders was. Mitch played average and that's great. Browns are hot thanks to Swagger Jr and we say something nice about the Dolphins. The Raiders very bad day, an honest discussion about Carson Wentz. The Titans make no sense and understanding Dak Prescott. Who's back of the week including Thanksgiving, (-) Football Guy of the Week, (-) and a quick Elon Musk roast. (-)

NFL Week 12 Recap: Jameis Derangement Syndrome and the Dak-Wentz Debate

We are right in the thick of the best time of year for football. Week 12 gave us a Sunday that felt like an accomplishment, even if the Packers looked like they were playing on a different planet than the 49ers. Big Cat is officially sounding the alarm on Green Bay, noting that their defense might not be the elite unit we saw in September.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3583
Big CatBig Cat

The Green Bay Packers defense is not for real

I'm going to continue to consider the Packers semi F word [frauds]. No, because their defense is not for real. And their offense does this thing where you now have two cases of it, the Chargers game and this game. They looked so bad.

The Packers defense finished the 2019 season ranked 18th in yards allowed and 9th in points allowed, but they were consistently exposed by elite teams, including in the NFC Championship loss.

PFT Commenter has a simpler theory for the blowout in Santa Clara: Aaron Rodgers simply cannot handle the West Coast vibes. Whether it's the Cali boy getting too comfortable or the West Coast offense failing to travel, the numbers don't lie.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3584
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers stinks whenever he plays on the West Coast

Aaron Rodgers sucks on the West Coast. I was running the numbers on him. I think he's something like 1-5 in the last 10 years on the West Coast or in California. He's a Cali boy. He goes home, he gets too comfortable.

Rodgers has historically struggled in California, including several notable losses to the 49ers in the playoffs and regular season during this era.

The Jameis Experience and Defensive Lineman Touchdowns

Jameis Winston has officially ascended to a one-of-one status for Big Cat. He has been red-pilled on the Jameis experience, embracing the chaos of a quarterback who can throw two picks and three touchdowns in a single half. Between the 300-yard games and the comedy, Jameis is the most must-watch player in the league.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3585
Big CatBig Cat

Jameis Winston is the most entertaining quarterback in the NFL

I love Jameis Winston... Jameis Winston is one of, if not my favorite, quarterback in the NFL because of the comedy and because you can just always... Do you know he leads the league this year in 300-yard games?

Winston became the first QB to throw 30 TDs and 30 INTs in the same season (2019), solidifying his status as the ultimate entertainment QB for that year.

Speaking of big men doing big things, PFT pointed out that Jameis just needs targets he can actually see, like 347-pound Vita Vea. If the Bucs just keep drafting girthier players, maybe those interception numbers will finally start to trend down. Meanwhile, in Buffalo, Sean McDermott has the Bills at 8-3, and PFT thinks it's time he gets some serious hardware consideration.

Push
Nov 25, 2019
#3586
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sean McDermott is a top candidate for NFL Coach of the Year

Is it time right now to start asking about Sean McDermott, possible coach of the year? That's like the sweet spot for a coach of the year, coaching a smaller market team and elevating them beyond what their expectations were.

McDermott finished 2nd in Coach of the Year voting in 2019, losing to John Harbaugh.

Frank Gore and the Death of the Lions

Frank Gore passed Barry Sanders for third on the all-time rushing list, which mostly served as a reminder of how insane Barry was for averaging five yards a carry over a decade. However, Big Cat thinks Gore’s longevity is its own kind of greatness, especially since he has led every single team he's ever played for in rushing.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#28460
Big CatBig Cat

Frank Gore is an absolute Hall of Famer.

The other big story from this game is Frank Gore, third all-time rushing... he needs all the credit in the world for... This is his 15th season. He has led every single team he's been on in rushing in that season. That is insane.

Gore finished his career as the 3rd all-time leading rusher and is widely considered a lock for the Hall of Fame.

In Washington, the Redskins actually won a football game, but it was overshadowed by Dwayne Haskins missing the victory formation to take selfies with fans. Big Cat isn't necessarily mad, but he thinks the play on the field hasn't earned that level of sideline celebration yet. In fact, he’s ready to call the draft debate between the two young NFC East signal-callers.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3588
Big CatBig Cat

Daniel Jones was definitively a better draft pick than Dwayne Haskins

Are we ready to say that Daniel Jones was definitively a better pick than Dwayne Haskins yet? I think Daniel Jones has more than Dwayne Haskins thus far that I've seen.

While both struggled, Daniel Jones had a much longer starting career than Haskins, though neither became a true franchise savior.

Across the division, the Eagles are in a tailspin. Carson Wentz missed throws that had Philly fans questioning their reality. PFT is starting to wonder if the "franchise" label was applied a bit too prematurely to the former MVP candidate.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3591
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Carson Wentz is a bad quarterback who just had one good run

I think he's a bad quarterback that has gone through good runs... I think he's been who he is his entire career. He's lost a little bit of his mobility, I think, over the last two years. But I think overall he's a perfectly average quarterback.

Wentz's career significantly declined after 2019, eventually leading to him being traded and becoming a journeyman backup, which largely validates PFT's early skepticism.

The Dak Prescott Ceiling

While Wentz struggles, Dak Prescott continues to put up massive numbers, yet he can't seem to get over the hump against the league's heavyweights. Big Cat admits Dak is a guy you have to pay, but he’s still waiting for that one signature performance in a hostile environment against an elite defense.

Void
Nov 25, 2019
#28464
Big CatBig Cat

Dak Prescott fails to step up and win big games against elite opponents.

Dak Prescott, whenever he plays like a big-time opponent, it feels like he doesn't step up to it... he is 5-13 against winning teams since 2016... The Cowboys defense played well enough to have Dak Prescott win that game for him [against the Patriots].

This is a subjective evaluation of a player's performance in high-leverage situations, though it remained a common criticism of Dak for years.
Void
Nov 25, 2019
#3593
Big CatBig Cat

Dak Prescott is the 'suckiest quarterback that doesn't suck'

He's the suckiest quarterback that doesn't suck... I like Dak Prescott a lot. I think he's a very good quarterback. I think he's a guy you've got to give money to. I just don't - I can't remember the last time he won a big, big game.

This remains a prevailing debate about Dak Prescott years later—his ability to perform at a high level but struggle in massive playoff moments.

Even with the big-game struggles, the debate between Dak and Wentz feels closer to settled than ever. Big Cat isn't hedging anymore when it comes to who he'd want under center for a must-win game right now.

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#28465
Big CatBig Cat

I would rather have Dak Prescott as my quarterback than Carson Wentz.

Dak Prescott is better than Carson Wentz... At this point, yeah. I would rather have Dak Prescott.

Dak Prescott went on to have a significantly more successful and stable career as a top-tier starter, while Wentz bounced around the league as a backup.

Who’s Back and the Cyber-Bezos Theory

Who's Back featured the NCAA's "supervillain" move of fining James Wiseman $1,100 to return to Memphis despite him not being allowed to earn money. It’s a level of innovation in greed that PFT can't help but admire. We also hit on the Cybertruck reveal, which Big Cat believes is just a massive psyop to make us forget about the real threat.

Loss
Nov 25, 2019
#3594
Big CatBig Cat

Elon Musk is just a front for Jeff Bezos

Elon Musk is just a front for Jeff Bezos because his Cybertruck was one of the funniest things I've ever seen... when people talk about Elon Musk doing stupid shit, they forget about Jeff Bezos.

This is a satirical conspiracy theory with no factual basis.

We wrapped up with a quick check-in on a very drunk, very sleepy Hank, who was vacationing during a Patriots win and was briefly convinced the entire episode's files had been corrupted.

Good luck to everyone partaking in Blackout Wednesday, just try not to end up on the Barstool Instagram page.

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More Takes

Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3587
Big CatBig Cat

Pat Shurmur should be fired for making Mitch Trubisky look like an average quarterback

Pat Shurmur you should be fired if you make Mitch look competent... Pat Shurmur should lose his job for making Mitch look average.

Pat Shurmur was indeed fired by the Giants at the end of the 2019 season.
Loss
Nov 25, 2019
#28461
Big CatBig Cat

The Bengals should draft Chase Young over Joe Burrow with the first overall pick.

Do you take Chase Young if you're the Bengals or do you take Joe Burrow?... I think I would take Chase Young. [PFT: I think so, too].

The Bengals drafted Joe Burrow, who transformed the franchise and led them to a Super Bowl, while Chase Young has struggled with injuries and production.
Loss
Nov 25, 2019
#3589
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cleveland Browns will run the table and make the playoffs

I think that they [the Browns] might run the table. I think that the Browns might make the playoffs. I think my brain is telling me that they're going to run the table. So if I'm wrong, it's not me. It's my brain.

The Browns did not run the table; they finished 6-10 and missed the playoffs.
Loss
Nov 25, 2019
#3590
Big CatBig Cat

Michael Thomas should be considered for NFL MVP

I'm ready to hop on board that Michael Thomas should be the MVP... He's done it with two different quarterbacks, and I think that that speaks more. He's kept the Saints afloat by being so steady through Drew Brees' injury, Teddy Bridgewater, and then Drew Brees coming back.

Lamar Jackson won the 2019 MVP unanimously. Michael Thomas won Offensive Player of the Year, but did not receive a single MVP vote.
Push
Nov 25, 2019
#28462
Big CatBig Cat

I don't know if Drew Brees still has the arm strength to make the big deep throws necessary to win in the playoffs.

I feel confident in everyone in the Saints except Drew Brees... he's going to have to make a few big-time deep throws. I don't know if he still has it... that's my biggest concern is in a playoff game, in a big-time moment, Drew Brees has to hit an open guy 30 yards down the field. Can he do it?

The Saints were upset by the Vikings in the Wild Card round; Brees struggled to push the ball downfield and finished with only 208 passing yards.
Win
Nov 25, 2019
#28463
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Eagles will win the NFC East.

The Eagles are probably still going to make the playoffs somehow... their schedule lines up perfectly for them... I would actually bet on the Eagles making it out of the NFC [East].

The Eagles finished 9-7 and won the NFC East division title.
Win
Nov 25, 2019
#3592
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ryan Tannehill is officially 'the guy' and has turned the corner in Tennessee

He is the guy. Change of scenery is all it took for Ryan Tannehill... What we're seeing right now is him taking the next step in front of our very eyes.

Tannehill led the Titans to the AFC Championship game in 2019 and was named Comeback Player of the Year, proving he was a legitimate starter for them for several seasons.
Win
Nov 25, 2019·Who's Back
#28466
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NCAA is a 'supervillain' organization for fining players who aren't allowed to earn money.

I applaud the NCAA for figuring out a way to find your players who aren't allowed to be making money and expect them to pay you to come back and play. It's next-level supervillainry, so congratulations for innovation.

The NCAA has since moved towards NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) rules, validating many of the criticisms PFT and others leveled at the old system.

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