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Take Slip·Jul 9, 2021
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Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

There is no conclusive evidence that the shortened NBA turnaround caused the recent surge in injuries

I'm just not sure based on everything I've read that we have some conclusive evidence that these injuries have happened just because of what we had in the past year... Silver definitely pushed back on it, which I was just at least I guess I was even surprised because he's been so pro player as a commissioner.

The relationship between scheduling and injuries is debated by medical experts and remains inconclusive.
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Take Slip·Jul 9, 2021
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Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

The Suns will win the NBA Finals in six games

No, Suns in six.

The Bucks won the series 4-2.
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Take Slip·Jul 9, 2021
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Andre DrummondAndre Drummond

I have conquered my free throw shooting struggles by finding a consistent routine

Well, if you have noticed, I'm shooting at least 70 right now. So I think that's something I've conquered already... I found a routine and shot it the same way for the entire summer. And it's been my routine ever since.

Drummond shot 60% for the 2020-21 season and dropped to 52% in 2021-22. He never truly reached a consistent 70% level.
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Take Slip·Jul 9, 2021
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Andre DrummondAndre Drummond

I will not play for the Portland Trail Blazers if Damian Lillard is traded

[Big Cat]: Name five of your favorite cities... Portland. [Drummond]: Dame's not there, though. No. [Big Cat]: Andre Drummond says he will not be going to Portland if Damien Lillard gets traded.

This is a statement of intent/preference during free agency.
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Take Slip·Jul 7, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Giannis Antetokounmpo was not as injured as the public was told

Giannis was not as injured as we were told that he was because just from the start, he went out there and he was the most athletic player on the court.

While Giannis returned quickly and played well, medical reports confirmed a significant hyperextension that would have sidelined most players; he simply recovered freakishly fast.
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Take Slip·Jul 7, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Suns will sweep the Bucks in the NBA Finals

I'll say [Suns] and four, [Suns] and three from right now. It was if Chris Paul plays like that, there's nothing you can do.

The Bucks won the next four games in a row to win the series 4-2.
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Take Slip·Jul 2, 2021
#PMT-2021-0702-11932
Big CatBig Cat

Brooke Lopez is a dominant 'system center' for the Bucks

Brooke Lopez dropped 33 tonight. 15 of 18. Brooke Lopez. Absolutely dominant is [Giannis] a system center. I don't know if people are saying, but yeah, that's how that's how bad that is.

While Brooke Lopez had a career-best playoff performance (33 points) in Game 5, he is not considered a 'more dominant' player than Giannis by any serious measure.
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Take Slip·Jul 2, 2021
#PMT-2021-0702-11933
Big CatBig Cat

The Bucks will win the Eastern Conference Finals in seven games if Trae Young remains out

I do think that if Trae Young doesn't come back in the series, I think the [Bucks] will probably win the series. And seven, I'm gonna say seven. So the Hawks will win another game, but it's just a bummer.

The Bucks won the series in 6 games (4-2), not 7.
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Take Slip·Jul 2, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Chris Paul deserves all the accolades for his legacy-defining Game 6

Chris Paul legacy game, Skip [Bayless] challenged him. He came through that second half when they came, when the Clippers looked like they were coming back and Chris Paul came back in the game. He ended up with 41. He ended up with an all time great flopping performance. He deserves all of the credit.

Chris Paul did have a legendary 41-point game to close out the Clippers and reach his first Finals.
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Take Slip·Jul 2, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Players who flop should be legally allowed to be shoved on the court

There was a technical debt that had been accrued on the part of Chris Paul over the course of that game with the flops... at that point, you should be allowed to shove him and actually get your jollies in, make contact with him to even up that debt that exists.

This is a satirical suggestion for rule changes that would never be implemented in the NBA.
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Take Slip·Jul 2, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Phoenix Suns will sweep the NBA Finals

Suns in four is our prediction for the NBA finals, this [NBA Finals]. Give Chris Paul the accolades that he deserves.

The Suns actually lost the NBA Finals 4-2 to the Milwaukee Bucks.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Giannis Antetokounmpo's ligaments are made of rubber bands because he could walk after his knee injury

Giannis, I don't know, he like broke his leg. ACL? Yeah. Doctor David PFT says, I personally think it's an MCL... but whatever it is, his ligaments are not made out of ligaments. They're made out of like rubber bands. Cause it's crazy. Like my leg would have, my body would have just blown up given up at that point.

Giannis famously avoided a major ligament tear (diagnosed as a hyperextended knee) and returned to win the Finals MVP, confirming he has unusual physical recovery abilities.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

NBA teams should sign stars and then only play them once the role players have won the early playoff series

Reggie Miller was mega right about resting the players. You should just, the new formula should be you sign star players and then you just try to win all the playoff series against inferior teams with your role guys. And then you put your stars back in for the fight.

This is an intentionally absurd strategy that no team would actually implement.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The 2021 NBA Playoff injuries are mostly freak occurrences rather than a result of the shortened season

I still believe... that this is the weirdest playoffs ever... a lot of these injuries are kind of freak injuries that I don't know if that has anything to do with playing the season was shortened rests off of the bubble. I just think there's a lot of freak injuries. They've happened all at once.

This remains a debated topic among sports scientists and NBA fans; while some injuries like AD's could be load-related, others like Trae Young stepping on a ref's foot are clearly freak events.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Hawks would have beaten the Bucks in Game 4 even if Giannis didn't get hurt

I do think the Hawks would have, they kind of were going to win this game without Giannis getting hurt. Like I know Hank just sitting there just saying 'game' after every made shot, that was pre-injury. The Hawks were playing like a spirited, like, Hey, we're coming out here, everyone in the world thinks we have no chance without Trae Young, fuck the world.

The Hawks were indeed leading when Giannis went down and won comfortably, though it's impossible to know how the comeback attempt would have gone with a healthy Giannis.
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Take Slip·Jun 30, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The NBA Finals will be Suns vs. Hawks

I think it's going to be Suns-Hawks and Suns in four. Suns Hawks, Suns and four.

The Bucks beat the Hawks in the ECF and went on to defeat the Suns in the Finals.
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Big CatBig Cat

Scotty Pippen is doing a great job promoting his bourbon because his controversial takes are keeping him in the news

I actually think he's doing a great job of pitching this bourbon... because everyone's talking about Scotty Pippen, but calling Phil Jackson racist for drawing up a winning play to Toni Kukoc... it goes against everything that everyone knows... he's on a scorched earth tour just getting back at everybody.

While Pippen got the attention he sought, the 'scorched earth' tour significantly damaged his reputation with many peers and fans, making the 'great job' claim debatable.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Bucks will win the series against the Hawks in five or six games

I do think the Bucks are going to win this series in five or six. But... you know, who knows? Trae Young. You just got to say Trae Young at the end of everything nice you say about a Hawks opponent.

The Bucks defeated the Hawks in 6 games to advance to the NBA Finals.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Chris Paul makes every big man he plays with significantly better

I do appreciate DeAndre Ayton being like, Chris Paul has changed my life. And it's like we know because... Chris Paul makes every big guy that much better because he basically just passes it to you in the best place possible.

This is widely supported by the career arcs of Tyson Chandler, DeAndre Jordan, Clint Capela, and DeAndre Ayton while playing with CP3.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Suns will beat the Clippers in five games

But yeah, it feels like it's Suns in five because Chris Paul was terrible. I think Chris Paul was also just gassed... but he ended up making just enough shots to keep them ahead.

The Suns lost Game 5 at home but closed the series in 6 games in Los Angeles.
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Big CatBig Cat

Damian Lillard will eventually be traded by the Blazers

Damian Lillard has been the exception, not the rule, in that he has remained loyal and he deserves credit. But it does feel like this is going to probably end up being a trade. I also kind of figured it would happen eventually. He's not getting younger. He's like 31 or something.

Lillard eventually requested a trade and was traded to the Milwaukee Bucks in September 2023.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Damian Lillard would not play well with LeBron James

I actually don't think that he [Lillard] would play well with LeBron. I mean, they would just win a title. But it wouldn't be fun for me to watch personally. No, it wouldn't be fun for anyone.

They never played together, so the fit remains a hypothetical debate.
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Big CatBig Cat

Ben Simmons does not love basketball

I do think Ben Simmons is probably one of those guys who falls in the camp of he's really good at basketball but probably doesn't love basketball. Because you can't love basketball and just never fix the fact that you can't shoot. Right?

Simmons' career trajectory and continued shooting struggles have made this a persistent, albeit unprovable, narrative.
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Take Slip·Jun 25, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Chris Paul was selfish for rushing back too fast from COVID protocols

I think Chris Paul was selfish tonight, Big Cat, in that he rushed himself back too fast. He did. And he needed to wait. Chris Paul needed to wait a little bit longer, come back. He was not the Chris Paul that we know.

Chris Paul struggled in his first game back (Game 3), shooting 5-of-19, but the Suns eventually won the series and Chris Paul played better in subsequent games.
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Take Slip·Jun 25, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Cam Payne's injury changed the whole flow of the Suns vs. Clippers series

Campaign did get hurt. He only played four minutes. That changes the whole series. You can confidently say there's no excuses left on the table. The Clippers are without their best guy, Kawhi. The Suns are without their best guy, Campaign.

Equating Cam Payne to Kawhi Leonard is factually absurd, though Payne was an important role player for Phoenix.
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Take Slip·Jun 25, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The 2018 NBA Draft should be redrafted to consider Trae Young over Luka Doncic

The best thing I said about [Trae Young] was that we now have to redraft the 2018 NBA draft. Because that's the biggest – Luka, how could you pick Trae Young ahead of – or how could you – the trade that went down where the Hawks basically traded back and they're like, you take Luka, we'll take Trae Young. So I think that that's actually... yeah, it's a discussion.

While Trae Young had a great 2021, Doncic has since established himself as a perennial First-Team All-NBA player, whereas Trae has fluctuated, keeping Luka as the consensus #1 in redrafts.
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Take Slip·Jun 25, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Scottie Pippen is not clearly a top 25 NBA player of all time

I'm just still going through my head right now because it feels like Scottie Pippen is not clearly a top 25 NBA player of all time. And I'm doing names. Are you willing to stand by that take? I had a poster when I was a kid... And Scottie Pippen was like controversially on the list of top 50.

This is subjective, though many modern lists (like The Athletic's 75) place Pippen right around 25-35, making it a valid bubble take.
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Take Slip·Jun 25, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is definitively a top 25 NBA player of all time

Write that down. Can you stop the beeping again? Write that down. Big Cat said something nice about LeBron. He is a top 25 NBA player of all time. That was huge of me.

LeBron James is universally considered a top 2 player in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Jun 23, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

DeAndre Ayton is officially an elite player alongside Luka Doncic and Trey Young

DeAndre Ayton... He's a fucking beast, man. He's like DeAndre Ayton showing up to the whole Trey Young, Luka Doncic, that draft ruled discussion being like, I rule too. I'm awesome on defense and offense.

Ayton's 2021 playoff run was a massive breakout, though his standing relative to Luka and Trae has fluctuated since.
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Take Slip·Jun 23, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

DeMarcus Cousins' push on Devin Booker should have been a flagrant foul

Yeah, so that [DeMarcus Cousins pushing Devin Booker] should have been called, that should have been like a flagrant foul, right?

This is a subjective judgment on officiating during a dead-ball period.
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Take Slip·Jun 23, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Game 2 was a backbreaker for the Clippers unless Kawhi Leonard returns

That does feel like a backbreaker for the Clippers. Unless Kawhi comes back. I don't know how you recover from that.

The Suns won the series 4-2. Kawhi Leonard did not return.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2021
#PMT-2021-0621-17937
Big CatBig Cat

The Process is officially dead.

Today is Monday, June 21st, and the process is dead. We had a good run. This was going to be the postseason where we judged whether or not processes actually work. Turns out they don't.

The core 'Process' era essentially ended here; the team subsequently traded Ben Simmons and failed to reach the ECF in the following years.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ben Simmons proves that you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

I always thought that saying the Wayne Gretzky-Michael Scott quote didn't really make that much sense. [Ben Simmons] actually proves that you do, in fact, miss 100% of the shots that you don't take.

Simmons famously attempted zero fourth-quarter field goals in the final four games of the series.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Ben Simmons will still have trade value because a team will believe they can fix him.

I think [Ben Simmons] still will have trade value because someone will think, I can fix that. I can make him better because he still has elite levels to his game. It's just the whole point of shooting a basketball into a hoop is the game, and he just doesn't want to do that.

Correct; Simmons was eventually traded to the Nets in a blockbuster deal for James Harden in February 2022.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2021
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HankHank

The 76ers will eventually make it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

I do believe, I truly believe, as much as I've said bad things about Philly, it's only been my honest opinion. And I do believe eventually they will make it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

As of the end of the 2023-24 season, the 76ers have still failed to reach the Eastern Conference Finals, consistently losing in the first or second round.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant gained respect and status from this playoff run despite losing.

Weirdly I think Kevin Durant like gained from this. Oh yeah. I mean the shot at the end of regulation was huge and just the way this... Harden going down, Kyrie going down... 48 points where he just was so incredible... I think people appreciate Kevin Durant more than they ever have, watching him play without other players and being as incredible as he is.

Durant's Game 7 performance (48 points) is widely regarded as one of the greatest individual playoff games in history, even in a loss.
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Take Slip·Jun 21, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Suns in four.

All I'm saying is Suns in four. Suns in four.

The Suns actually beat the Clippers in 6 games, not 4.
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Take Slip·Jun 18, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Reggie Miller was right about resting Kevin Durant and James Harden in Game 6

Reggie Miller was right. If you forgot, Reggie Miller basically said after game five, rest Kevin Durant, James Harden for game seven. Don't even play them. They played. They lost.

The Nets lost both Game 6 and 7, but Miller's take was widely mocked as 'rest' isn't usually the strategy in close-out games.
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Take Slip·Jun 18, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

If the Sixers lose the series in six games, the franchise should consider blowing up 'The Process'

Right now, if the Sixers lose this series in six, hope is gone. Hope is out the window. I would be firing up the trade machine and seeing how many picks you can get for Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons to just restart the process.

They did eventually 'blow up' the Simmons/Embiid pairing by trading Simmons, but Embiid remained. They lost the series in 7, not 6.
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Take Slip·Jun 18, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Doc Rivers is the all-time greatest coach at choking away playoff victories

Doc Rivers... is also, like, sneakily the all-time greatest basketball coach at choking away fourth-quarter victories in the playoffs. And also series leads in the playoffs. Doc, this is like a habit for Doc.

Doc Rivers holds the record for most blown 3-1 leads (3) and has lost numerous Game 7s.
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Take Slip·Jun 18, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Hawks might have been right for choosing Trae Young over Luka Doncic

We're seeing now, were the Hawks right for taking Trae Young and not Luka Doncic? Maybe. So there you go. That's really when you know that you got a good one, when we're doing the revisionist history.

Luka Doncic is widely considered the superior player long-term, though Young had a deep run that year.
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Take Slip·Jun 18, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Ben Simmons should shoot more in the 4th quarter, even if he misses everything

I actually think if I were Ben Simmons, strategy going into game six, I would just shoot all the time in the fourth quarter. Because I really do believe if Ben Simmons went one for seven in the fourth quarter, it would be better than shooting one time in the last four games in the fourth quarter. That's basically giving up.

Simmons continued to be passive and was eventually traded after the playoff failure; the take is an opinion on strategy.
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Take Slip·Jun 16, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant's legacy as a top 25 player of all time is now cemented

In my humble opinion, as a sports analyst... I am deeming Kevin Durant's legacy is a very good basketball player. Cemented... this decade, sky's the limit. This is where his legacy is made and it started tonight.

Durant's Game 5 is widely considered one of the greatest individual playoff performances in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Jun 16, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Bucks will win Game 6 and force a Game 7 against the Nets

I do think the Bucks are going to win game six. I think it's going to go seven.

The Bucks won Game 6 and the series did go to 7 games (which the Bucks eventually won in overtime).
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Take Slip·Jun 16, 2021
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is not a great dunker because he doesn't hang on the rim

This is why LeBron James is not a great dunker, in my opinion. You have to hang on to the rim for just like a split second. You've got to make the rim move... Sometimes he acts like the rim is like a hot oven rack. He just taps it and pulls his hand away.

This is an aesthetic opinion about dunk style that cannot be objectively proven true or false.
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Take Slip·Jun 16, 2021
#PMT-2021-0616-15153
Nick McKellarNick McKellar

The Phoenix Suns will beat the Clippers in four games if they meet in the Western Conference Finals

If it does go to Clippers versus Suns, I think we have a real chance of Suns in four again.

The Suns beat the Clippers in 6 games, not 4.
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Take Slip·Jun 14, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Suns fan from the 'Suns in 4' fight needs a championship ring

The bottom line is if they [the Suns] win, if they win the NBA finals this year, that guy needs a ring. He needs a ring for sure. And he needs to do the pregame ceremony.

The Suns reached the Finals but lost to the Bucks, and the fan did not receive an official ring.
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Take Slip·Jun 14, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Nikola Jokic's ejection in Game 4 was total bullshit

The Jokic ejection was bullshit. It was bullshit. Having that be an ejection was so, so stupid. I don't know if that changes the game... but yes, ejecting the reigning MVP, that's going to have an effect on it.

This is a subjective opinion on officiating, though widely shared by commentators.
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Take Slip·Jun 14, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

The Brooklyn Nets are still the best team in the NBA when at full strength

Obviously the Nets at full strength are probably the best team in the NBA and better than the Bucks. But at some point you do have to admit that Kyrie Irving, James Harden, those guys do get injured.

Subjective, but the Nets did lose in 7 games after injuries to Irving and Harden.
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Take Slip·Jun 14, 2021
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Big CatBig Cat

Game 5 against the Bucks is a legacy game for Kevin Durant

Is this a legacy game for Kevin Durant on Tuesday night? It's a must-win. If you want to jump to legacy... if he doesn't win this legacy game, there needs to be a new torch.

Durant had 49 points, 17 rebounds, and 10 assists in Game 5, widely considered one of the best playoff performances ever, cementnig his legacy despite the series loss.
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