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Jaguars Co-Owner Tony Khan, Cubs Patrick Wisdom And Suns In 4

Wednesday, June 23, 202123 takes

The Suns win in an absolute thriller. Playoff P is back. Canadiens are just going to keep on winning ( -). Carl Nassib comes out as the first active gay NFL player ( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ). Jaguars Co-Owner Tony Khan joins the show to talk wrestling, the Jaguars, and tons more ( - ). Cubs Patrick Wisdom joins us in studio to talk baseball, how much it sucks to face Jacob deGrom, hitting homers and respecting 90 ( - 1). We finish with Mike Greenberg's dumb rules about baseballs sticky stuff and FAQ's.

Tony Khan on AEW vs. WCW, Patrick Wisdom’s Heater, and the Valley-Oop

The Phoenix Suns just gave us one of those nights where you remember why you sports. Between Jae Crowder’s perfect lob and DeAndre Ayton’s rim-rattling finish, the ending of Game 2 against the Clippers was pure electric. Big Cat is finally ready to give Ayton his flowers as a member of the elite 2018 draft class.

Push
Jun 23, 2021
#2106
Big CatBig Cat

DeAndre Ayton is officially asserting himself in the same elite tier as Luka Doncic and Trae Young

DeAndre Ayton... He's a fucking beast, man. He's like DeAndre Ayton showing up to the whole Trae Young, Luka Doncic, that draft ruled discussion being like, I rule too. I'm awesome on defense and offense.

While Ayton had a great playoff run, most analysts would still place Doncic and Young significantly higher in long-term value.

PFT was more focused on the chaos at the end, specifically DeMarcus Cousins trying to shove Devin Booker while the refs were stuck in replay limbo for what felt like an eternity.

Void
Jun 23, 2021
#2108
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

DeMarcus Cousins' push on Devin Booker should have been a flagrant foul

Yeah, so that [DeMarcus Cousins pushing Devin Booker] should have been called, that should have been like a flagrant foul, right?

This is a subjective judgment on officiating during a dead-ball period.

The Clippers have been down 0-2 before, but doing it without Kawhi Leonard feels different this time. Big Cat thinks the vibes in L.A. are officially on life support.

Win
Jun 23, 2021
#2109
Big CatBig Cat

Game 2 was a backbreaker for the Clippers unless Kawhi Leonard returns

That does feel like a backbreaker for the Clippers. Unless Kawhi comes back. I don't know how you recover from that.

The Suns won the series 4-2. Kawhi Leonard did not return.

Hockey Wagons and Heavy News

While the NBA is heating up, the Montreal Canadiens are officially a problem. PFT has dubbed them the French 'Waggon' as they continue to baffle the experts by winning games they have no business winning.

Push
Jun 23, 2021
#21513
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Montreal Canadiens are a 'wagon' and are going to win the Stanley Cup in a year without fans

How do you say wagon in French? I think it's just Waggon. Le Waggon. Le Rouge Rider Waggon. Yeah, they're amazing. ... fitting for a Canadian team to win the Stanley Cup in a year where there can't be fans.

The Canadiens reached the Stanley Cup Final in 2021 but lost to the Tampa Bay Lightning 4-1.

Switching gears to the NFL, the guys reacted to Carl Nassib becoming the first active player to come out. It was a historic moment that the guys felt was handled with total class, and PFT noted that the league's locker rooms are more than ready to be supportive.

Win
Jun 23, 2021
#2111
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL is ready for gay players and the vast majority of players will be supportive

It speaks to something that Cyd Zeigler has been saying for a while. ... He's been saying this for years, which is like the NFL is ready for it. The players for the vast, vast majority are going to be supportive when it does happen. It'll almost be like a joyous occasion when it does happen.

The reaction to Nassib's announcement was overwhelmingly supportive across the league and from the Raiders organization.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank’s Hot Seat is the viral 'You’re not that guy, pal' guy, who has provided the internet with its newest favorite way to shut down any argument. Hank is convinced this isn't just a flash in the pan.

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HankHank

The 'You're not that guy, pal' clip will be the clip of the summer

Pretty much, it's a great clip, but I think that's going to be the clip of the summer. Everything you do with your friends, your coworkers, pretty much anything... you're going to see comments about you're not that guy.

The meme was indeed massive throughout 2021 and remains a staple of internet culture.

On the Cool Throne, Matthew Stafford is getting the heavy-duty gas from Sean McVay. Hank is already eyeing the MVP odds, but Big Cat is looking further down the road at Canton.

Open
Big CatBig Cat

Matthew Stafford is a Hall of Famer

Dude, I'm rooting for Matt Stafford because there's a few takes that we all have out there that are just lingering, and Matt Stafford being a Hall of Famer, I could retire on that take.

Stafford is currently 11th all-time in passing yards and won a Super Bowl, making his case very strong, though he is still active/not yet eligible.

Meanwhile, PFT is reading between the lines of Tom Brady’s appearance on 'The Shop.' When Tom famously asked why a team was sticking with 'that motherfucker,' the guys are fairly certain they know exactly who the GOAT was talking about.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tom Brady was talking about the 49ers and Jimmy Garoppolo when he said 'you're sticking with that motherfucker?'

Tom was talking about the courtship, the quarterback courtship that happened last year. And there was one team in particular where he said, really, you're going to stick with that motherfucker over me? ... Sabermetrically, it's also most likely to be Phillip Rivers. ... [Billy: I think it was Garoppolo] Actually, that is who it is. No, I really do think that's who it is.

In 2024, Tom Brady finally confirmed the team he was referring to was the Chicago Bears.

Tony Khan on the Forbidden Door

Jaguars co-owner and AEW founder Tony Khan joined the show to talk about the wrestling war and his multi-sport lifestyle. Tony broke down exactly why he thought there was a gap in the market for a new wrestling promotion, pointing directly to the collapse of WCW.

Void
Jun 23, 2021
#2127
Tony KhanTony Khan

AEW exists because WCW vacated the prime TNT/TBS television slot

AEW exists, in my opinion, because of the failure of WCW because they vacated this great time slot, this great relationship with TNT and TBS that we have. And that was the success of WCW was the outlet, the penetration they had from TNT, TBS, and, of course, the fans.

This is Khan's internal business logic and historical interpretation.

He was refreshingly honest about the mistakes of the past, explaining that giving wrestlers too much creative control was the death knell for previous challengers to the throne.

Void
Jun 23, 2021
#2128
Tony KhanTony Khan

WCW failed because they gave creative control to wrestlers

I think some of the things that went wrong for WCW, in my opinion, were the creative control. They gave creative control to a lot of the wrestlers. And some of the storylines are asinine. ... Most wrestling companies that have been really successful over time have had, like, one supreme commander at the top who's, like, owned it, booked, like, done everything top to bottom.

This is a widely held opinion in wrestling history regarding WCW's downfall.

Of course, we had to talk Jags, and Tony defended Urban Meyer’s transition to the NFL. While the internet loves to meme Urban's motivational signs, Tony insists the coach is as authentic as they come.

Loss
Jun 23, 2021
#2129
Tony KhanTony Khan

Urban Meyer is an awesome person who will have his players' backs

Urban's great, man. ... He's changed my life in the six months I've known him... And the way he motivates people, and I know you're not going to want to hear it if you don't like him, but if you get to know him, there is something about him. ... I'm just saying, if he came in here and you worked with him, you'd love him. He would have your back on anything.

Meyer's tenure was a disaster and he was fired mid-season amid reports of toxic behavior, significantly undermining Khan's 'awesome person' claim.

Patrick Wisdom Respects 90

Cubs sensation Patrick Wisdom sat down in the studio to talk about his absolute heater of a month. Despite hitting home runs at a historic clip, he admitted that standing in the box against Jacob deGrom makes even the best pros feel like they've never played the game before.

Win
Jun 23, 2021
#2130
Patrick WisdomPatrick Wisdom

Facing Jacob deGrom is like going into a test knowing you're going to fail

Yeah, it was a major suck. He shoved it last night. It's like going into a test knowing you're going to fail, like, there's nothing you can do. He's just going to overpower you, and you're going to walk back to the dugout saying, I don't know what I'm doing out here. ... The first pitch I barely even saw.

In 2021, deGrom was statistically having one of the greatest pitching seasons ever before injury.

Patrick is a 'Respect 90' guy through and through, but he's also not afraid of the big stage. When Big Cat asked if he'd bring his 'pumps' to the midsummer classic, Patrick didn't hesitate.

Win
Jun 23, 2021
#2131
Patrick WisdomPatrick Wisdom

I would compete in the Home Run Derby if asked

If you were asked to do the home run derby, will you do it? Oh, heck yeah. Okay, so there we go. Perfect. Patrick Wisdom says that he would do the home run derby.

This is a statement of willingness.

We wrapped up the show with Mike Greenberg’s dumb rules regarding the MLB sticky stuff crackdown. Big Cat isn't necessarily pro-cheating, but he thinks MLB’s timing is typical of a league that never knows how to handle its own scandals.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

MLB is stupid for cracking down on 'sticky stuff' in the middle of a season

My whole point is you should fix it, but don't fix it in the middle of the season only after it becomes public because you feel like a fool for letting it go on and having it be an open secret for so long. ... Just because they got exposed, they're going to swing the pendulum of justice so hard. ... It's so stupid.

The mid-season crackdown was widely criticized by players and media for creating injury risks and changing the game abruptly.

If you're going to use spider tack, just don't get caught with it in the middle of a June Tuesday.

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Void
Jun 23, 2021
#21514
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

DK Metcalf is the straightest player in the NFL

I was just going to say DK Metcalf is still the straightest player in the NFL.

This is a purely subjective and satirical claim.
Loss
HankHank

Matthew Stafford will win NFL MVP

Sean McVay was talking to Albert Breer and said, bro, this dude's a bad motherfucker. Whatever people say about him, as good as it can be, he's even better than advertised. ... I saw it. I saw the future. MVP.

Stafford had a great year and won the Super Bowl, but Aaron Rodgers won the MVP in 2021.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

College schools will soon use server farms to mine crypto for recruits

Schools are allowed to provide as many education-related expenses as they want to players. ... You could, in theory, provide an athlete with an entire dorm room filled with servers for them to mine cryptocurrency in that dorm room. ... LSU could be like, hey, we're going to build a new dorm called the Arch Manning Dormitory. ... you can just generate money for yourself while you're here.

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While NIL became a massive money-generating machine, 'crypto mining dorms' did not become a standard practice.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Skip Bayless has an investigative team searching athletes' wives' Instagram followers

There's very clearly a person behind the scenes working for Skip Bayless that has Skip Bayless's brain and does all the things online. ... and he just feeds Skip Bayless crap all day, and it just ends up on TV. Like his little private investigator for him.

While shows like Undisputed have large research staffs, the specific idea of a 'private follower investigator' is speculative.
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Jake MarshJake Marsh

Robert Griffin III has found his future career as an analyst

So ESPN and Fox are in a bidding war for him as an analyst. Whoa. So it looks like he found his future career. ... The executives were, quote, blown away by his audition.

RGIII was hired by ESPN shortly after and became a major part of their college football and NFL coverage.
Open
Jun 23, 2021
#21515
Tony KhanTony Khan

AEW Rampage and Dynamite will both be strong shows ten years from now

If both shows are really strong, if Dynamite and Rampage are both really strong shows 10 years from now, hopefully even stronger than now, I would be so proud.

The shows are currently running successfully, but the ten-year mark is in 2031.
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HankHank

Alex Caruso should have had a 'fall guy' to avoid his marijuana arrest

Alex Caruso, NBA player, NBA stud, but I feel like the only place where he really probably gets that full stud treatment is Texas A&M. ... you definitely should have a fall guy.

This is an opinion on personal strategy.
Void
Jun 23, 2021·FAQ
#21517
Big CatBig Cat

Ryen Russillo would 'snap Hank in half' in a fight

Dude, he would... No offense, but [Ryen] Russillo would snap you in half. ... if you versus Russillo, you're not that guy.

Theoretical physical confrontation.
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Billy FootballBilly Football

Wingstop changing their name to Thighstop is due to a national wing shortage

My hot seat is Wings. Wingstop is now Thighstop due to the national wing shortage. There was a three-time price increase in Wings, so it actually had... been a better investment to invest in Wings than... some cryptos right now.

Wingstop did launch a 'Thighstop' digital brand in June 2021 specifically to combat high wing prices and shortages.

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