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Greg Olsen & George Kittle, The Process Is Officially Dead, Nets/Bucks And Monday Reading

Monday, June 21, 202119 takes

The Process is officially dead. Ben Simmons is afraid to shoot a basketball ( - ). Nets/Bucks Game 7 was an all time great + the Suns keep rolling ( - ) . Hockey talk and US Open recap ( - ). Who's back of the week ( - ). Greg Olsen and George Kittle join the show to talk about Tight End University, respecting Tight Ends, Tebow as a Tight End, and Greg tells us about his son's heart transplant ( - ). Monday Reading and Hanks announcement and we finish with Billy's recap.

Greg Olsen and George Kittle on Tight End U, Ben Simmons' Allergic Reaction to Shooting, and the Death of the Process

It is officially time to pour one out for Philadelphia. After years of losing on purpose for the sake of a grand vision, the Sixers flamed out against the Hawks in a Game 7 that felt like a funeral for a philosophy. Big Cat didn't mince words about the state of the franchise now that the dust has settled on their postseason exit.

Win
Jun 21, 2021
#17937
Big CatBig Cat

The Process is officially dead.

Today is Monday, June 21st, and the process is dead. We had a good run. This was going to be the postseason where we judged whether or not processes actually work. Turns out they don't.

The core 'Process' era essentially ended here; the team subsequently traded Ben Simmons and failed to reach the ECF in the following years.

The focal point of the disaster was Ben Simmons, who spent the fourth quarter of every game seemingly terrified of the orange sphere in his hands. He finished the series with a historic inability to shoot free throws and a mental block that kept him from dunking even when he was standing directly under the rim. PFT noted that Simmons has finally found the literal interpretation of the most famous quote in sports history.

Win
Jun 21, 2021
#17939
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ben Simmons proves that you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

I always thought that saying the Wayne Gretzky-Michael Scott quote didn't really make that much sense. [Ben Simmons] actually proves that you do, in fact, miss 100% of the shots that you don't take.

Simmons famously attempted zero fourth-quarter field goals in the final four games of the series.

Despite the collapse, Big Cat isn't ready to say Simmons is untradeable. In the NBA, there is always one GM who thinks they are the whisperer who can finally unlock the talent, though at this point, that talent seems to exclude actually putting the ball in the hoop.

Win
Jun 21, 2021
#17940
Big CatBig Cat

Ben Simmons will still have trade value because a team will believe they can fix him.

I think [Ben Simmons] still will have trade value because someone will think, I can fix that. I can make him better because he still has elite levels to his game. It's just the whole point of shooting a basketball into a hoop is the game, and he just doesn't want to do that.

Correct; Simmons was eventually traded to the Nets in a blockbuster deal for James Harden in February 2022.

Hank, ever the optimist when it comes to his rivals' misery, took the floor to offer a backhanded olive branch to Philly fans. He truly believes the Process will work... eventually.

Loss
Jun 21, 2021
#17941
HankHank

The 76ers will eventually make it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

I do believe, I truly believe, as much as I've said bad things about Philly, it's only been my honest opinion. And I do believe eventually they will make it to the Eastern Conference Finals.

As of the end of the 2023-24 season, the 76ers have still failed to reach the Eastern Conference Finals, consistently losing in the first or second round.

Bucks, Nets, and the Suns Rolling

While Philly was dying, the Bucks and Nets were playing an all-time classic. Kevin Durant put the entire city of Brooklyn on his back with a 48-point performance that was inches away from being a game-winning three instead of a game-tying two. Big Cat argued that Durant actually came out of this loss looking better than ever.

Void
Jun 21, 2021
#17942
Big CatBig Cat

Kevin Durant gained respect and status from this playoff run despite losing.

Weirdly I think Kevin Durant like gained from this. Oh yeah. I mean the shot at the end of regulation was huge and just the way this... Harden going down, Kyrie going down... 48 points where he just was so incredible... I think people appreciate Kevin Durant more than they ever have, watching him play without other players and being as incredible as he is.

Durant's Game 7 performance (48 points) is widely regarded as one of the greatest individual playoff games in history, even in a loss.

Out West, the Suns are simply a wagon. Even without Chris Paul, Devin Booker dropped a 40-point triple-double to keep the momentum going. Big Cat is standing by his favorite prediction for the rest of the playoffs.

Loss
Jun 21, 2021
#17943
Big CatBig Cat

Suns in four.

All I'm saying is Suns in four. Suns in four.

The Suns won the 2021 Western Conference Finals 4-2, so they did not win in four.

The U.S. Open and Bryson's Meltdown

Golf talk took a turn toward the celebratory as the guys watched Bryson DeChambeau implode on the back nine on Sunday. After holding the lead, Bryson finished tied for 26th, leading PFT to label him with the one name they hadn't used for the scientist yet.

Void
Jun 21, 2021
#17944
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bryson DeChambeau is a mentally weak golfer and a quitter.

We call him a lot of stuff, but we've never called him a quitter until today. And he quit when his giant cleats didn't save him... At that point, Bryson was like, I don't want to be out here anymore. And he quit. He is a mentally weak golfer.

DeChambeau held the lead but spiraled to a T-26 finish, one of the most significant final-round collapses in recent major history.

Greg Olsen and George Kittle: Tight End University

Longtime friends of the program Greg Olsen and George Kittle joined the show to discuss their new venture, Tight End University. The summit in Nashville is bringing together over 50 NFL tight ends to share secrets of the craft. George Kittle broke down why the position is the most grueling in the league, requiring a player to be a hybrid of two completely different roles.

Void
Jun 21, 2021
#17948
George KittleGeorge Kittle

The hardest part about playing tight end is having to be an elite blocker and an elite receiver simultaneously.

I think it's the fact that you have to be good at everything. You can be an elite route runner. You can catch the ball really well... but then if you can't, like, hold your own in the run game and you can't, like, take a hit in the face by a 300-pound defensive end, then they kind of have to call plays around you instead of you being the focal point. You have to be very good at pass pro, running routes, setting the edge, being able to crack on a safety, being able to block a defensive end.

The difficulty of a position relative to others is subjective.

Of course, the conversation turned to which school can actually claim the title of TEU. Kittle stayed loyal to his Hawkeyes, citing the lineage of Dallas Clark and the recent first-round dominance of TJ Hockenson and Noah Fant.

Void
Jun 21, 2021
#25638
George KittleGeorge Kittle

The University of Iowa is the real Tight End U.

It's Iowa [that is Tight End U]. I got Dallas Clark on my shirt right now for a reason, baby... I got Hawkinson. I got Fant in the first round. Never before done.

The 'Tight End U' title is a subjective debate among college football fans.

Greg Olsen wasn't having it, firing back with the Miami Hurricanes' history of producing elite talent that spans decades of NFL success.

Void
Jun 21, 2021
#25639
Greg OlsenGreg Olsen

The University of Miami is the real Tight End U.

Miami went five tight ends in a row who were drafted in the first round... The only guy who wasn't was drafted in the second round. Going back to Miami lineage, you have Bubba Franks first round, Shockey first round, Kellen Winslow [Jr.] first round... Me, first round. Since then, we've had Jimmy Graham... David Njoku... We've had dudes now.

The title of 'Tight End U' is a subjective matter of opinion.

Olsen also got real about his son TJ's recent heart transplant. In a moving segment, he talked about the resilience of kids and the incredible mix of emotions that comes with receiving a life-saving organ. It was a heavy but necessary reminder of what matters outside of the box score. To wrap up the football talk, Olsen made it clear that while he loves the game, his days of putting on the pads are over.

Win
Jun 21, 2021
#17950
Greg OlsenGreg Olsen

I am completely and utterly done with football and will not come out of retirement.

I am not going to be coming out of retirement. I'm completely and utterly done. I've set a record for how many times I've broken and ruptured my feet. So I'm full-time dad and part-time broadcaster.

Olsen has remained retired and has become a successful lead broadcaster for FOX.

Who's Back and a Major Announcement

Who's Back featured the return of triple plays and Kyle Schwarber's hot streak in D.C. Big Cat has a new vision for the Olympics that would involve putting a regular guy in the pool just to show how much of a freak Michael Phelps really is.

Void
Jun 21, 2021·Who's Back
#25636
Big CatBig Cat

Every Olympic event should have a lane for a regular person to show how slow the average human is.

The Olympics, if they had a lane for just regular average people for comparison, would be so incredible. If they had the 10th lane in a swimming pool, be like, all right, let's find a 15-pound overweight guy and just let him swim just to show how slow an average person was, it would be so fascinating to watch.

This is a subjective opinion on how to improve the Olympic broadcast experience.

To close the show, Hank shared a personal update, announcing that he and Rhea have broken up after several years together. He handled it with incredible maturity, explaining that they've simply moved into different stages of life but remain on good terms.

We love you, Hank. Go get that summer six-pack.

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More Takes

Loss
Jun 21, 2021·Who's Back
#25635
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

England will lose in the semifinals of Euro 2020.

England is going to lose in the semifinals, although I am addicted to saying it's coming home.

England won their semifinal match against Denmark 2-1 on July 7, 2021.
Void
Jun 21, 2021·Who's Back
#17945
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

F1 cars are too soft and need to be louder.

I think the cars are too loud. [Wait, no] make them a little bit softer or make them just really fucking loud... the cars are too soft. They're basically racing toy cars. It's the pussification of America, of Europe.

The 'loudness' of modern F1 cars has been a major point of debate among traditional fans since the 2014 engine change.
Loss
Jun 21, 2021·Who's Back
#25637
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Schwarber is a National for life and will win several World Series in D.C.

[Kyle Schwarber] is a Nat for life. We love him in this city. We're going to keep him running. We're going to do whatever it takes to keep Kyle Schwarber home in D.C. for as long as we can... He's going to stay in D.C., hopefully win several World Series with us, going to the Hall of Fame as a National.

Kyle Schwarber was traded to the Boston Red Sox on July 29, 2021, and has since played for the Phillies.
Void
Jun 21, 2021·Who's Back
#17946
Big CatBig Cat

Triple plays should replace no-hitters because they are cooler.

Triple plays should replace no-hitters because they're cooler than no-hitters.

Subjective ranking of highlight types.
Loss
Jun 21, 2021·Who's Back
#17947
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Defensive teams should score a run if they turn a triple play.

Actually, I think you should be able to get a run for a triple play. On defense, you should be able to score a run if you get a triple play... give us what the fans want, and that's defensive runs.

Hot TakeBaseballHotSarcastic
MLB rules do not currently allow defensive teams to score runs via putouts.
Void
Jun 21, 2021
#25640
George KittleGeorge Kittle

I would have drafted Kyle Pitts first overall in the 2021 NFL Draft.

I'm a Kyle Pitts fan. Just watched him last year. Like, the dude just scores touchdowns... I wanted him to go, like, first overall, like, to be, like, the first tight end to ever go first. I get it, but I would have drafted him first.

Pitts was selected 4th overall by the Falcons; Trevor Lawrence went 1st.
Win
Jun 21, 2021
#17949
George KittleGeorge Kittle

Super Bowl winning teams always have a talented tight end, so the position should be paid more.

If you look at the last year, 10 Super Bowls, I think every team that's won has had a very, very talented tight end. So, like, it has to do with winning Super Bowls. So, I mean, I think that's the most important thing, so you might as well pay the tight ends.

The recent winners (Chiefs, Bucs, Eagles, Patriots) all featured elite TEs like Kelce, Gronkowski, and Ertz.

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