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Take Slip·May 16, 2025
#PMT-2025-0516-942
Randy MossRandy Moss

The Triple Crown schedule must be adjusted as trainers will no longer run horses on two weeks' rest

The Preakness is a classic... but they think it is counterproductive to bring [Mystik Dan] back in just two weeks... It's gonna happen more and more frequently in the future until such time as the Triple Crown races become further apart on the calendar.

Discussions about extending the Triple Crown schedule are ongoing in the industry, but no official change has been made yet.
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Take Slip·May 16, 2025
#PMT-2025-0516-943
Randy MossRandy Moss

Clever Again is a strong play to beat the favorite Mystik Dan in the Preakness

There's another horse in the race called Clever Again, trained by Steve Asmussen... he's got speed. He's coming off a really strong race. He's had plenty of rest... I think to take a shot against [Mystik Dan] on the theory that [Mystik Dan] might not perform quite as well in the Preakness as he did in the Derby.

Seize the Grey won the 2024 Preakness. Clever Again did not win.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sovereignty is a pussy for skipping the Preakness

I'm saying I'm gonna prank call sovereignty. I we should harass this horse. This is a beta horse. This is what happens. It's a horse that's been coddled its entire life... Sovereignty's a puss. Let's just stop beating around at this horse is a fucking pussy.

A horse cannot literally be a 'pussy' or 'beta' in the human sociological sense.
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Take Slip·May 2, 2025
#PMT-2025-0502-12392
Randy MossRandy Moss

Fierceness is two to three lengths better than any other horse in the Kentucky Derby field

I think [Fierceness] is two to three lengths better than any other horse right now in the field... I think if he's ridden properly, I think [Fierceness]'s, you know, clearly, clearly the horse to beat.

Fierceness was the heavy favorite but finished 15th in the 2024 Kentucky Derby.
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Take Slip·May 2, 2025
#PMT-2025-0502-12394
Randy MossRandy Moss

A prime Secretariat could not win a race with a 235-pound Big Cat in the saddle

No shot, Big Cat, no shot. I'm sorry to tell you that. [You would finish] probably dead last. Even if you were an accomplished equestrian, at that weight riding Secretariat? No. He'd be up the track.

Thoroughbreds carry ~120 lbs; 235 lbs would be a massive disadvantage that physics supports as race-ending.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Secretariat was definitely on steroids

I'm gonna take Secretariat. Some would say the the greatest athlete of all time. But its heart was like three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show. Secretariat definitely on steroids. Randy Moss, white, Randy Moss agreed. Chances are very, very high.

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Secretariat's large heart was attributed to the 'X-factor' gene in an autopsy, not steroids, though the claim is a show staple.
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Take Slip·May 3, 2024
#PMT-2024-0503-9617
Randy MossRandy Moss

Fierceness is the best horse in the Kentucky Derby by three or four lengths

If all the horses run their best races, Fierceness wins the race, hands down. Talent wise, Fierceness is probably three or four lengths better than any other horse in the field.

Fierceness finished 15th in the 2024 Kentucky Derby, failing to live up to the favorite status.
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Take Slip·May 3, 2024
#PMT-2024-0503-9618
Randy MossRandy Moss

Forever Young has travel and track concerns heading into the Derby

Forever Young is the most accomplished Japanese horse that's ever come over here... but I've got two concerns... the travel bothered him... the other thing, the trainer seems to be borderline obsessive about keeping this horse out of this kickback spray in his face.

Forever Young actually ran very well, finishing 3rd in a photo finish, suggesting the travel concerns were minimal.
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Take Slip·May 24, 2023
#PMT-2023-0524-1691
Daniel RicciardoDaniel Ricciardo

Red Bull is my family and where I truly belong in F1

Now going back like full circle to Red Bull... it's like, oh, like, yeah, this is, this is the family. Like this is where, you know, I, I'm happy to come home to and where I feel like I truly belong.

This is a personal feeling about his career path.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2023
#PMT-2023-0519-16370
Randy MossRandy Moss

National Treasure will win the Preakness Stakes

I'll take National Treasure. I think he's gonna control the pace... to me that gives him the edge.

National Treasure won the 2023 Preakness Stakes.
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Take Slip·May 19, 2023
#PMT-2023-0519-16371
Randy MossRandy Moss

Faiza is the standout favorite for the Black-Eyed Susan Stakes

I think Faiza is a standout in the Black-Eyed Susan... Peterson said no, I'm staying loyal to [Baffert]... she's undefeated.

Faiza finished 3rd in the Black-Eyed Susan Stakes; Taxed won the race.
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Take Slip·May 5, 2023
#PMT-2023-0505-6092
Christian HornerChristian Horner

The F1 Las Vegas Grand Prix will be the biggest sporting event in the world in 2023

I think it's gonna be the biggest sporting event globally this year. I really do. I think that the interest and the hype around that race, I mean, a Saturday night race down the strip in Vegas, who doesn't wanna be there?

The inaugural Las Vegas GP was a massive financial and viewership success, though 'biggest globally' is subjective compared to the Super Bowl or Champions League final.
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Take Slip·Apr 3, 2023
#PMT-2023-0403-6343
Bobby HurleyBobby Hurley

Forte will be the Kentucky Derby favorite and has a great chance to win

I love Forte. I've watched Forte a few times... I think he'll be the Kentucky Derby favorite, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's gotta win today. But yeah, I got a good feeling about Forte. Yeah. That's, that's my pick.

Forte was the betting favorite but was a late scratch on race day (May 6, 2023).
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Take Slip·Apr 3, 2023
#PMT-2023-0403-6344
Bobby HurleyBobby Hurley

Flight Line is the best horse I have ever seen

That horse was amazing. Flight Line. Yeah. He might probably the best horse I've ever seen, ever.

Flight Line retired undefeated and is historically ranked among the greatest ever, making this a consensus expert opinion.
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Take Slip·Feb 17, 2023
#PMT-2023-0217-3470
Big CatBig Cat

The Daytona 500 is the most prestigious and important race in NASCAR

Daytona 500 is considered the most prestigious and important race in NASCAR and has opened the NASCAR season every February since 1982.

The Daytona 500 is widely regarded as the 'Super Bowl of NASCAR' and its most important event.
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Take Slip·Aug 26, 2022
#PMT-2022-0826-14223
Big CatBig Cat

McLaren is dead to me for dumping Daniel Ricciardo

Danny Ricciardo got dumped by McLaren. McLaren is dead to me now. I hate them. I always hated them, but now I really hate them. Kind of fucked up.

This is a personal subjective opinion on his fandom.
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Take Slip·Jul 18, 2022
#PMT-2022-0718-15915
Frankie MunizFrankie Muniz

I was the last person to talk to Dale Earnhardt before his fatal crash at the 2001 Daytona 500

Dale Earnhardt came up to me and he goes, 'I just have to say, you've brought me and my daughter so much closer, your show.' ... Other than his crew chief essentially, I was the last person to talk to him.

While impossible to verify every single interaction Earnhardt had on the grid, Muniz's role as Grand Marshall and the timing of the interaction are well-documented.
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Take Slip·Jul 18, 2022
#PMT-2022-0718-15914
Frankie MunizFrankie Muniz

IndyCar has a better pool of drivers than Formula 1 because of car parity

I would say the best series of drivers, in my opinion, and this might get me in trouble, is IndyCar. Because there's 24 guys who race every week and all 24 of them could win... Where in Formula 1, it really is contingent upon what car you're in.

The relative skill of drivers across different disciplines is an ongoing debate and cannot be definitively proven.
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Take Slip·Jun 29, 2022
#PMT-2022-0629-16252
Max VerstappenMax Verstappen

The 'Drive to Survive' series fakes rivalries and misrepresents F1 driver personalities

I think there were a few things yeah where I was not really happy with. And especially, you know, faking rivalries between drivers. That to me is a tough one because of course it did wonders in America. But also I think sometimes they portray a few drivers differently to how they actually are. And then of course the people who are new to F1 think, oh, this guy is a bit of a Dick or whatever. Which in real life is not.

Producers of DTS have admitted to using creative editing to heighten drama, and several other drivers (including Norris) have backed Max's claims about misrepresentation.
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#PMT-2022-0531-9427
Big CatBig Cat

Red Bull is cheating in Formula 1

I've found my perfect niche niches that I don't watch any second of the race. And then just say someone cheated after. Cause it was great. It was like, I didn't watch a second a Monaco. And then I was like red bull cheats.

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In late 2022, Red Bull was indeed found to have committed a 'minor' breach of the 2021 budget cap, leading to a fine and penalty. While he's joking here, the spirit of the claim proved true.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2022
#PMT-2022-0520-3099
Randy MossRandy Moss

Early Voting has a rest advantage that could challenge Epicenter in the Preakness

I agree with you. I think that [Epicenter] stands out in the field on paper, but Early Voting would have an edge he'll he'll probably set the pace. Epicenter should be right behind him. And Early Voting does have the edge of rest having not run since the Wood Memorial. So that will help his chances.

Early Voting won the 2022 Preakness Stakes, beating Epicenter.
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Take Slip·May 20, 2022
#PMT-2022-0520-3098
Randy MossRandy Moss

The Preakness is historically a better race for fillies than the other Triple Crown races

I do think that the Preakness is usually a better race for fillies. We haven't had a Kentucky Derby, a Philly that's won the Kentucky Derby since winning colors in 1988... But we saw Rachel Alexandra, for example, beat the boys in the Preakness. I think that was 2009, very impressively.

Statistically, fillies have won the Preakness (6) more often than the Derby (3) or Belmont (3).
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Take Slip·May 9, 2022
#PMT-2022-0509-6248
Big CatBig Cat

Rich Strike should be retired immediately following the Kentucky Derby win

If I was Rich Strike's owner right now, you just gotta retire this horse. You gotta be like, I'm going out on top. It should just be put out to stud for the rest of its career. Never let it raise again because you're never going to reach—Rich Strike is not going to become the new Secretariat.

Rich Strike did not retire; he continued racing but never won another race, finishing his career with a string of losses before retiring in 2023.
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Take Slip·May 9, 2022
#PMT-2022-0509-6250
Big CatBig Cat

Rich Strike's 80-1 win saves the sport of horse racing

Wouldn't it be perfect if you have an 80 to one a shot that like everyone's going to look at and be like $30,000, we could have bought this horse. I guarantee everyone was saying that after. I think they're gonna, if there is something wrong here, they're just going to sweep it under the rug because it's the greatest story ever. So it's going to save horse racing this year.

A single race outcome's ability to 'save' a sport is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·May 9, 2022
#PMT-2022-0509-6252
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Rich Strike will not win the Preakness

Rich Strike is a dog. Hold on. Horse racing needs a bad boy... but he's not going to win the Preakness. So it will be, it will go away quickly.

Rich Strike did not win the Preakness because the owner chose to skip the race entirely to rest for the Belmont Stakes.
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Take Slip·May 6, 2022
#PMT-2022-0506-12064
Randy MossRandy Moss

The Japanese horse Crown Pride is a legitimate threat in the Kentucky Derby

Every day in the last two weeks, big cat, it is looking more and more possible... He has been sensational here in Churchill Downs. And this morning he had a workout... everyone was like, holy crap, did you see that Japanese horse work this morning? I mean, the horse looks great.

Crown Pride finished 13th in the 2022 Kentucky Derby.
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Take Slip·May 6, 2022
#PMT-2022-0506-12063
Randy MossRandy Moss

Epicenter is my pick to win the Kentucky Derby

Epicenter is the perfect horse to take advantage of an inside post position because he has tactical speed... I think it's a great post position for Epicenter, probably why that's why I'm picking him.

Epicenter finished second in the 2022 Kentucky Derby, losing to long-shot Rich Strike.
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Take Slip·Sep 17, 2021
#PMT-2021-0917-14375
Big CatBig Cat

Max Verstappen was at fault for the crash with Lewis Hamilton at Monza

Max's car is literally on Lewis's head, and he just walked away... I said Max is a jerk... Max obviously drives to the edge... I would say my rule of thumb is nine times out of 10. If you drive over another guy's head, it's probably your fault.

F1 stewards officially ruled Verstappen was 'predominantly to blame' for the incident and handed him a three-place grid penalty for the next race.
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Take Slip·Aug 2, 2021
#PMT-2021-0802-5335
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mercedes' current F1 strategy is intentionally taking out Red Bull at every turn

Mercedes, essentially their strategy now is just take out Red Bull at all times, which is sick. And then yeah, Lewis Hamilton, Sir Lewis Hamilton is the goat.

This is a satirical take on the crash incidents in the 2021 season; there is no factual evidence it was a deliberate team strategy.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2021
#PMT-2021-0719-454
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Max Verstappen is currently the best driver in the world

He's [Max Verstappen] the best in the sport right now. All time salty Instagram post after... but right now he's number one... Max Verstappen is the best racecar driver right the second.

Verstappen went on to win the 2021 World Championship, though in controversial fashion.
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Take Slip·Jul 19, 2021
#PMT-2021-0719-455
Big CatBig Cat

The crash between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen was just a 'racing incident'

I actually took Lewis Hamilton's side. I thought that he—Robbins racing. They call it a racing incident... Like a bang-bang targeting call that isn't targeting... football incident. Let's keep playing. My whole thing is, I can't get up for the F1 races.

F1 stewards actually gave Hamilton a 10-second penalty for the incident, but many fans and analysts still debated if it was just a typical racing clash.
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#PMT-2021-0716-17643
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

F1 is a game where you have to outspend your competitors to win

My fire Fest is I downloaded the F1 game on my phone and I've spent $140 upgrading my car in the last two weeks... you gotta have the most money if you want to win. Right. Exactly. So I think I'm going to outspend the competitors.

In mobile gaming and real F1, financial resources are widely recognized as a primary driver of performance.
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Take Slip·Jun 28, 2021
#PMT-2021-0628-4292
Big CatBig Cat

Ferrari is going to be awesome in F1 next year due to new regulations

I heard on the street that Ferrari's going to be awesome. Oh, because of the new regulations or some shit. So we'll get in now, and then we look like geniuses. Just saying. That might just be big Ferrari, though.

PredictionRacingMediumSarcastic
Ferrari was indeed much better in 2022, winning multiple races early in the season and finishing 2nd in the Constructors' Championship, though they eventually fell behind Red Bull.
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#PMT-2021-0621-17945
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

F1 cars are too soft and need to be louder.

I think the cars are too loud. [Wait, no] make them a little bit softer or make them just really fucking loud... the cars are too soft. They're basically racing toy cars. It's the pussification of America, of Europe.

The 'loudness' of modern F1 cars has been a major point of debate among traditional fans since the 2014 engine change.
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Take Slip·Jun 18, 2021
#PMT-2021-0618-4221
Daniel RicciardoDaniel Ricciardo

I am 'mojacked' than Tyrann Mathieu

I think I'm definitely mojacked than Tyrann. I respect the fact that you said that. I'm actually glad you said it, but I don't think he would agree. I feel I would get squashed in an instant, but...

Tyrann Mathieu is a pro football safety; Ricciardo is a lean F1 driver. It's meant as a joke.
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Take Slip·May 21, 2021
#PMT-2021-0521-4643
Big CatBig Cat

Max Verstappen will eventually be the F1 World Champion

Max Verstappen is going to be world champion. That's what everyone says. I believe it as well.

Max Verstappen won the F1 World Championship in 2021 (and several years following).
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Take Slip·May 21, 2021
#PMT-2021-0521-4644
Christian HornerChristian Horner

F1 teammates in Europe generally hate each other because they are each other's biggest career threat

Call a teammate in Europe, they fucking hate each other. Because it's the one guy that's going to kill his career. So they play team, but the reality is they both want to beat each other.

This is a subjective claim from a team principal with decades of experience; it's considered an industry standard view in F1.
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Take Slip·May 21, 2021
#PMT-2021-0521-4645
Christian HornerChristian Horner

Formula One needs a star American driver for the sport to truly take off in the US

That's what the U.S. need. We've got to get a decent American driver running in Formula One. And as soon as that happens, I think the US will just take off even more.

The sport did take off significantly due to 'Drive to Survive', even without a major American driver on the podium, but Horner's point about a US star remains a central goal of Liberty Media.
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Take Slip·May 14, 2021
#PMT-2021-0514-5083
Randy MossRandy Moss

Medina Spirit will almost certainly be disqualified from the Kentucky Derby

If the split sample comes back, the second sample that Baffert is sending out to verify the presence of beta-methasone in the horse's system, if it comes back positive, the horse is going to be disqualified almost certainly from the Kentucky Derby... I feel pretty confident in saying that the horse will probably be disqualified.

In February 2022, Medina Spirit was officially disqualified from the 2021 Kentucky Derby.
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Take Slip·May 14, 2021
#PMT-2021-0514-5084
Randy MossRandy Moss

The medication in Medina Spirit's system made zero difference in the Kentucky Derby outcome

The amount of beta-methasone that he had in his system absolutely positively in my opinion and according to the opinion of some of the top veterinarians that I've talked to made zero difference whatsoever in the way the horse ran in the derby. It was one one millionth of a gram... There's no way that it had any impact at all on the way he ran.

While scientifically supported by many vets due to the low dosage, it remains technically a violation and the causal effect is debated by regulators.
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Take Slip·May 14, 2021
#PMT-2021-0514-5085
Randy MossRandy Moss

Jockey changes among elite riders make zero difference in major races

When you're betting and you get into a race like the Kentucky Derby or the Preakness, the jockeys involved are all so good and so competent that the difference between jockey A and jockey B, jockey B and jockey C is negligible... just ignore the rider and focus on the abilities of the horse.

This is a fundamental handicapping philosophy that can't be objectively proven 'right' or 'wrong' but is a professional stance.
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Take Slip·May 14, 2021
#PMT-2021-0514-5086
Randy MossRandy Moss

Bet on a Sacred Life and Some Like It Hot Brown exacta in the Dinner Party Stakes

Chad Brown has a horse in there named Sacred Life that looks like an absolute standout... I think if you hook him up in an exacta with the number one horse, Some Like It Hot Brown... I like the 5-1 Exacta, Sacred Life and Some Like It Hot Brown in the race before the Preakness.

Sacred Life finished 4th and Some Like It Hot Brown finished 2nd. The exacta did not hit.
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Take Slip·May 12, 2021
#PMT-2021-0512-6418
Big CatBig Cat

Free Bob Baffert

Either way, free Bob Baffert. There's a lot of things wrong with horse racing. Bob Baffert isn't one of them.

Hot TakeRacingHotSarcastic
Baffert was eventually suspended by Churchill Downs and NYRA following the Medina Spirit steroid controversy.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9866
Randy MossRandy Moss

Essential Quality is a machine but hasn't run a fast race yet

He's just a machine so far... The one knock on him... [is] he's yet to run what most people would consider to be a fast race by Kentucky Derby favorite standards.

Essential Quality finished 4th in the Derby (promoted to 3rd) but went on to win the Belmont Stakes and Travers Stakes, proving he was elite.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9868
Randy MossRandy Moss

Bob Baffert is the most successful horse trainer of all time

When Bob retires, I think he's in his late 60s, but he's going strong. He'll be the most successful horse trainer of all time.

Baffert holds the record for most Triple Crown race wins, though his legacy has been complicated by drug violations.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9869
Randy MossRandy Moss

The #1 post position at the Kentucky Derby is not a disadvantage

There's this bs out there that's been out there for years that the number one post position is this horrible disadvantage and it's not... the advantage of saving ground being on the inside around the turns makes the horse run better than his odds would indicate.

Known Agenda, who ran from the #1 hole in 2021, finished 9th.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9870
Randy MossRandy Moss

Essential Quality will NOT win the 2021 Kentucky Derby

I can't tell you who I'm going to pick, but it's not Essential Quality.

Essential Quality finished 4th (eventually 3rd after disqualification), so Moss was correct that he did not win.
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Take Slip·Apr 30, 2021
#PMT-2021-0430-9871
Randy MossRandy Moss

Bet on Endorsed in the 10th race at Churchill Downs on Saturday

There is a horse running Saturday in the 10th race... His name is Endorsed and I will endorse betting on Endorsed... I think the horse is an excellent play.

Endorsed finished 4th in the 2021 Churchill Downs Stakes.
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Take Slip·Feb 5, 2021
#PMT-2021-0205-4176
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Secretariat is the greatest of all time

Secretariat. Well, exactly. Secretariat. It's got to be. American Pharaoh. It has to be Secretariat.

The 'GOAT' debate is inherently subjective.
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Take Slip·Jun 12, 2020
#PMT-2020-0612-16903
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It is statistically more dangerous to be a spectator than a rider in the Tour de France

There have been 27 spectators that have died and three cyclists that have died [in the Tour de France]. So it's more dangerous to not ride in the Tour de France than it is to ride.

Historical data supports that spectator deaths (often from vehicles in the caravan) have outnumbered rider deaths in the Tour's history.
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