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Hard Knocks Episode 1, Olympic Gold Medal Wrestler Gable Steveson, Daymond John + Mt Rushmore Of Athlete Nicknames

Wednesday, August 11, 202121 takes

Hard Knocks is back. We break down episode 1. (-) Hot Seat/Cool Throne plus a brand new game Italian or Pervert. (-) Olympic Gold medalist Gable Steveson joins the show to talk about his incredible buzzer beater in the heavyweight wrestling division in Tokyo. (-) Daymond John joins us in person to talk about his new audio book, making it in the 90's and some ideas. (-) We finish the show with Mt Rushmore of athlete nicknames (-)

Gable Steveson and Daymond John on Hard Knocks and Athlete Nicknames

Football is officially back because Hard Knocks has returned to our screens. The first episode featured Mike McCarthy trying to turn Austin Powers clips into a coaching philosophy, which feels like a Mike McCarthy move if there ever was one. Big Cat is already fully bought into the Dallas hype train, though his brain knows deep down they might just win five games.

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Aug 11, 2021
#14233
Big CatBig Cat

The Dallas Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl this year

I can't see a world that Dallas don't win at least 15 games and CD Lamb should be a first rounder and Amari Cooper should be a first rounder and Dak Prescott... should be a first rounder... they are going to win the Super Bowl.

The 2021 Cowboys won 12 games and lost in the Wild Card round to the 49ers. They did not win the Super Bowl or 15 games.

PFT and Big Cat both noticed a significantly slimmer Ezekiel Elliott, who seems to have traded in the mid-drift look for a six-pack. PFT is ready to crown him the king of the backfield once again based entirely on his new frame.

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Aug 11, 2021
#24800
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ezekiel Elliott will return to his elite form this season because he finally has his six-pack back

Zeke is going to be back to physique this year... the dude has the six pack back. He doesn't have the belly anymore. physique-iel Elliott. He looks skinny. He looks, it looks very skinny.

Elliott rushed for 1,002 yards and 10 TDs in 2021. While a solid season, it was not a return to his league-leading 'elite' form from his first few seasons.

The most stressful moment of the episode wasn't a goal-line stand, but the sheer panic on Mike McCarthy's face when he realized Dak Prescott’s arm might be made of glass. Big Cat felt for the guy, noting that a coach receiving injury news is a unique brand of trauma.

Void
Aug 11, 2021
#14235
Big CatBig Cat

A head coach finding out their star quarterback is injured is the most devastating news possible

I need every head coach to be miked up when they get that type of news, because it is absolutely devastating. It's like stuff... I'm talking, you could tell them their family just got kidnapped and they'd be like, all right, well, we'll figure out after practice, but [the trainer] walking up being like, 'Hey, it's a muscular thing. We don't know.'

Subjective hyperbole about the relative importance of football vs personal life for NFL coaches.

Olympic Gold and Shark Tank Advice

American hero and Olympic gold medalist Gable Steveson joined the show fresh off his incredible buzzer-beater win in Tokyo. He broke down the final 0.2 seconds of his match and explained why his style of wrestling is the ultimate test of athleticism.

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Aug 11, 2021
#14239
Gable StevesonGable Steveson

Freestyle wrestling is harder than Greco-Roman wrestling

I'm going to say freestyle in a sense is a lot harder than Greco, because you just, you could take shots in the legs. You can get cheap points off of easy shots and stuff.

This is a professional opinion from an Olympic gold medalist.

While he’s busy being the baddest man on the planet, he hasn't ruled out a jump to the gridiron. Given he’s already a Barstool athlete and can do a backflip at 260 pounds, the NFL might be calling sooner than later.

Win
Aug 11, 2021
#14240
Gable StevesonGable Steveson

I want to have a trial with an NFL team

I would hope one day that I can get a trial with the NFL. And I mean, there's some teams that have came and have mentioned me to some, some agents and stuff that have sparked interest to me. So, I mean, it'd be cool to go out there and play football and be in NFL for a little bit.

Steveson did eventually get a trial and sign with the Buffalo Bills in May 2024, confirming his goal.

Daymond John also stopped by the studio to talk about his new Audible original, *Founding FUBU*. He took us back to the 90s, discussing the grind of building a brand before the internet existed and the volatility of the fashion world.

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Aug 11, 2021
#14242
Daymond JohnDaymond John

Hot fashion brands typically only last five to seven years

The cycle of generally for fashion, a hot fashion brand lasts about five to seven years. There's a unicorns like Nike and Louis Vuitton. But you'll notice whether it's Benetton or Levi's... [they] chip away.

This is a general business observation from a fashion mogul.

Daymond also gave some sobering advice on the stock market, warning against the "Gordon Gekko" mentality that leads people to day-trade their way into poverty instead of playing the long game.

Void
Aug 11, 2021
#14244
Daymond JohnDaymond John

The only way to make real money in the stock market is to hold for 20 years

If you buy something on one of those [Robinhood/Ameritrade], the real way you're going to make money is to hold it for 20 years. If it's a value. But if you buy it, you naturally look at your account and you go back and go, 'oh, I'm Gordon Gekko. I just made $200. Let me sell it.'... It takes away your discipline.

Standard financial advice regarding long-term compounding vs short-term trading.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Mount Rushmore

Hank’s hot seat was Dennis Schroeder, who famously fumbled an $80 million bag with the Lakers only to sign with the Celtics for the mid-level exception. Hank thinks the Celtics are actually the big winners here because they’re getting a guy with everything to prove.

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HankHank

The Celtics are getting great value in Dennis Schroeder because he'll be incredibly hungry after losing out on a massive contract

He rejected the deal. He said he wanted a hundred million dollars... Cool throne Celtics. It's good for the Celtics. Like you're going to get the hungriest Dennis Schroeder you can get.

Schroeder averaged 14.4 points in 49 games for Boston before being traded to the Rockets in February 2022. He didn't have the massive 'bet on himself' payoff season Hank anticipated.

Big Cat, meanwhile, is buying the dip on Ben Simmons. Despite the playoff struggles, he views the Sixers star as a high-upside investment that just needs one breakthrough moment to skyrocket.

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Big CatBig Cat

Ben Simmons is a 'penny stock' worth investing in right now

I'm kind of low key addicted to Ben Simmons because he really is like a penny stock. If he could figure it out a little bit, it would be incredible. Like he would be, you know, a starter on the all-star team because he has all the other stuff. Defense, passing, dribbling... If he could just figure out when to shoot and have the balls to shoot, I'm telling you invest now.

Since this take, Simmons sat out a year, was traded to Brooklyn, and has seen his career derailed by injuries and continued shooting hesitancy, his 'stock' value has actually plummeted.

We wrapped up the show with a massive Mount Rushmore of Athlete Nicknames. It’s a topic so deep we had to go an extra round. PFT led the charge with a legend who defined his own moniker.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kobe Bryant's 'Black Mamba' is one of the greatest athlete nicknames of all time

We are going to go with, may he rest in peace, the black Mamba... it's probably the greatest nickname of all time because it just become, his has become his name.

Nickname quality is a matter of personal opinion.

Big Cat went with the classics that defined childhoods and Sunday afternoons. Whether it’s the golf course or the racetrack, some names just Carry a different weight when they're on the leaderboard.

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Big CatBig Cat

Tiger Woods' nickname is better than any other because it's synonymous with his dominance

This one is another synonymous name. It's an all time nickname... it is Tiger Woods. He's Eldrick Woods. His nickname is Tiger. It was given to him when he was a kid. There's nothing better. Like when he's in his red shirt on a Sunday hunting down his prey, Tiger Woods.

Subjective opinion for Mount Rushmore.
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Big CatBig Cat

Dale Earnhardt Sr.'s nickname 'The Intimidator' is an all-time great moniker because of the fear it struck in opponents

I'm going to go a little NASCAR. Maybe the greatest nickname. I know. Time... The intimidator, Dale Earnhardt Sr. I mean, what are you going to do when the intimidator comes for you?

Nickname quality is a matter of personal opinion.

Jerry Jones salting a McDonald’s McGriddle might be the most relatable thing a billionaire has ever done.

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Void
Aug 11, 2021
#14234
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Micah Parsons looks too small for a linebacker wearing number 11

Michael Parsons wearing number 11. It's going to take a lot of getting used to... I was watching it. I was like, this guy weighs 205 pounds and he's a linebacker. And then I looked up his stats and he's like 6'2" and 250 pounds. The 11 totally screwed me.

This is a subjective aesthetic opinion about jersey numbers.
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Big CatBig Cat

I'm betting on the Lions this season because Dan Campbell has successfully flushed all the 'turds' out of the organization

The lions have no turds. That's Dan Campbell said that they got no turds. So officially they flushed all the turns out... I'm ready for some Dan Campbell football. I think I'm expecting the lions. I'm going to bet the lions in this.

The 2021 Lions finished 3-13-1, the second-worst record in the NFL.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You should always fade Mike Greenberg's gambling advice when he feels strongly about a pick

He was saying that like, he's gonna take the under on not only the lions, but the Texans and they might not win more than like three or four games. This is a major Greenie weeny alert. If Greenie feels that strongly about something, when it comes to gambling, you fade Greenie big time.

Greenie took the under on the Lions and Texans. The Lions won 3 games and the Texans won 4. Fading him would have resulted in losses on both counts.
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Big CatBig Cat

The NFL's new taunting rules are a disaster for the game of football

[Jake Marsh]: I see it as taunting. So the NFL came out with new rules and automatic ejection for two taunting violations... [Big Cat]: Oh yeah, no [fun] for the game. No, no, no, no, no. I love this.

The rules were widely criticized by fans and players for being overly restrictive, though they remained in place.
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Billy FootballBilly Football

Impossible burgers might cause serious kidney damage

My hot seat is vegan. So impossible burgers and new study came out on them. Turns out that they might be seriously damaging to your kidneys according to a study released.

The claim originates from a non-peer-reviewed report by an anti-GMO advocacy group and has been widely debunked by health professionals and researchers.
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Billy FootballBilly Football

Sam Ehlinger will be a better NFL quarterback than Trevor Lawrence

Sam Ehlinger has been taking reps with the first team offense... Sam Ehlinger was going to be better than Trevor Lawrence. That was a 12-1 upset [in my bracket].

Trevor Lawrence became a franchise QB and Pro Bowler for the Jaguars, while Sam Ehlinger remained a career backup for the Colts.
Void
Aug 11, 2021
#24805
Daymond JohnDaymond John

If I were starting FUBU in today's social media landscape, the brand would be ten times bigger than it originally was

If you had to do it again today, your, you know 20 year old Daymond John, do you think it still works... This would be, I would, it would be, it would be 10 times bigger. Really? Yeah. You remember, I didn't, the internet didn't even exist. Social media didn't exist. So I had to physically walk up and get into people's face to sell them something.

This is a hypothetical claim that cannot be proven, though it aligns with modern brand scaling trends.
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HankHank

Magic Johnson is the greatest nickname in sports history

I think it's probably the greatest nickname of all time because it just becomes his name. It is Magic Johnson. There is no one better than Magic Johnson. Irvin Johnson becoming Magic. I mean, it's just synonymous.

This is a subjective pick for a Mount Rushmore segment.
Win
Aug 11, 2021
#14248
Billy FootballBilly Football

Usain Bolt is the greatest sprinter because he's the only one of the all-time fastest who hasn't tested positive for steroids

Basically of all the sprinters to break [ten] seconds, 9 out of the 10 have tested positive or been accused of using steroids except Usain Bolt.

Among the 10 fastest 100m runners in history, Usain Bolt is indeed the only one who has never been linked to a doping violation or ban.

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