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Bills GM Brandon Beane, Jay Glazer, Christian Dawkins + Mt Flushmore Of States

Friday, April 17, 202021 takes

We got some Friday energy even though Jay Glazer didn’t deliver good news ( - ). Jay joins us to explain the national news Wednesday night and apologizes to all of us dumb football fans ( - ). Fyre Fest of the week, we all suck at video games ( - ). Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane joins the show to talk about the upcoming draft, DraftJoshAllen.com, draft war rooms and how much the name Beane helps in Front Offices ( - ). Mt Flushmore of states, no offense to states ( - ). Christian Dawkins from the HBO documentary “The Scheme” joins the show to talk about the 2017 FBI investigation of NCAA Basketball ( - 1)

Brandon Beane, Jay Glazer, and Christian Dawkins on Draft Strategy and the NCAA

We have reached the fifth week of quarantine, and while the world outside is still on pause, Big Cat and PFT are grinding through simulation sports and questionable TV programming. Big Cat started the show by officially burying the ESPN horse competition, which was exactly as bad as everyone feared it would be when it was first announced.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11958
Big CatBig Cat

The ESPN horse competition was a complete failure

I'm so happy that I was adamant when they announce that horse was coming out and I said this is going to suck and everyone was like no it's sports or need supports. This sucks... The fact they put it on TV it ruined it.

The event was widely panned by critics and fans for poor production quality and lack of excitement.

With no real sports to watch, the guys have turned their attention to the NFL Draft and the fallout from the latest HBO sports documentary, but first, they had to address the elephant in the room: Jay Glazer's "big oopsie." After hyping up massive national news that turned out to be a Rams center testing positive for COVID-19 weeks ago, Jay called in to offer an apology to a sports-starved nation that was expecting a transaction or a schedule update.

Jay Glazer's Redemption Tour

Jay Glazer joined the show to explain the promo machine that led to his Wednesday night letdown. While he was defensive at first about the importance of the story, he eventually realized that fans are desperate for any news that doesn't involve the virus. He did manage to drop a few nuggets regarding the current state of the league and whether we'll see football this fall.

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Apr 17, 2020
#28223
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

The NFL will do whatever they can to play the season, even without fans

I think they're going to do whatever they can. Even if it's, we already saw that they're saying without fans in the stands forever. I think that without a doubt they're going to look at [playing].

The NFL did indeed play the full 2020 season, mostly without fans or with limited capacity.

Naturally, the conversation shifted to whether some big names might be moving or returning. Jay put a damper on the rumors connecting Odell Beckham Jr. to the Vikings and gave a very bleak update on the status of Rob Gronkowski's potential return to the gridiron.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11963
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

Rob Gronkowski is not close to being in game shape or returning to the NFL

I don't think he act look when we were training at Unbreakable... he's waste are than he ever has been right? So we're even talking about what it would take for him to come back and he was never like hi. I need a new approach new program... he's not even close to how it was betrayed.

Gronkowski came out of retirement and was traded to the Buccaneers on April 21, 2020, just four days after this episode.

Despite the rumors of a Brady-Gronk reunion in Tampa, Jay doesn't see the logistics working out in the Buccaneers' favor, mostly because Bill Belichick isn't in the business of doing favors for people who leave his building.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11965
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

The Patriots will not trade Rob Gronkowski to the Buccaneers just to help Tom Brady

Also I don't see him going to the Bucks... the Patriots [Belichick] has control, right? So why would they just be like, 'Oh, yeah sure.' They would trade him because they could get something for him, but they're not going to just send him to go help the guy who left them.

Incorrect. The trade happened on April 21, 2020, for a 4th round pick.

Bills GM Brandon Beane on Draft Rooms and Josh Allen

Buffalo Bills GM Brandon Beane joined the show to discuss how a front office operates when they don't have a first-round pick. After shipping their top pick to Minnesota for Stefon Diggs, Beane explained that the certainty of a veteran receiver was more valuable than the gamble of a rookie, especially during an uncertain offseason.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11968
Brandon BeaneBrandon Beane

The Bills traded the 22nd pick for Stefon Diggs because he is a proven veteran

We traded it for Diggs who we just we thought at the end of the day that what we could get at 22 wasn't going to be the player that Diggs is... Especially in light of what's going on around our country. We don't even know what kind of offseason we're going to have. So to be able to get a veteran versus School in a rookie up. We just thought made the most sense this year.

Diggs was an immediate All-Pro and transformed the Bills' offense, proving the trade was significantly better than drafting a rookie would have been in 2020.

Beane also played along with the recurring bit that DraftJoshAllen.com was the primary reason the Bills selected their franchise quarterback. He gave some insight into the weirdness of the draft process, including bathroom reading mock drafts and dealing with the "computer situation" that older GMs like Dave Gettleman are facing. He also gave a vote of confidence to Cam Newton, who remains a free agent.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11973
Brandon BeaneBrandon Beane

Cam Newton deserves another chance and will have a chip on his shoulder

Cam's a guy route for I think he deserves another chance... I know how he's wired if he feels doubted and I think he's in a strong spot, you know, when he's doubted he's going to try and prove people wrong.

Newton signed with the Patriots and won the starting job, though his performance was mixed.

The Scheme with Christian Dawkins

Following the release of the HBO documentary *The Scheme*, Christian Dawkins joined the show to discuss the FBI investigation into college basketball. Dawkins was incredibly candid about the reality of the business, arguing that the NCAA's amateurism model is essentially a fraud that forces everyone into a "blood sport" for talent.

Win
Apr 17, 2020
#11980
Christian DawkinsChristian Dawkins

A good portion of high-level winning college basketball programs are cheating

I think that if you let's say it's 300 schools. I don't know how many is division one... a good portion of the schools that are are winning at a high level are doing something and it doesn't necessarily mean that they're dropping bags off at someone's house. But you've got to get creative man. Like this is It's a blood sport to get talent.

Numerous investigations and documentaries have corroborated that under-the-table payments were common in high-level recruiting.

Dawkins didn't hold back on his disdain for the NCAA's leadership and the absurdity of federal fraud charges being used to protect a non-governmental organization's bylaws. He predicted that if the NCAA doesn't adapt to let players profit from their own identities, the market will simply find more untraceable ways to operate.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11981
Christian DawkinsChristian Dawkins

If NCAA rules don't change, cryptocurrency will be used to pay college athletes

If instead of way rules don't change something is going to be the new thing because It is again. That's how it works. It has to happen... it wouldn't surprise me if that's the that's the move in the next couple of years if nothing changes.

While NIL laws changed in 2021 (making payments legal), some rogue boosters and collectives have indeed utilized crypto for transactions.

Mount Flushmore of States

To wrap things up, the guys took a flamethrower to the Union with a Mount Flushmore of States. No one was safe as Hank, Big Cat, and PFT drafted the places they'd least like to visit or live. Hank kicked things off by attacking the great state of South Dakota for being completely forgettable.

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HankHank

South Dakota is the most unremarkable state in America

The most unremarkable State I don't even know if we have a listener here. If we do have a listener here tweet us. We'd love to hear from the listeners in the great state of South Dakota. who the fuck cares

This is a subjective opinion about the state's interest level.

Big Cat took aim at Mississippi, citing a miserable college tour experience, while PFT went after Delaware for being nothing more than a glorified corporate tax haven. The guys even took a shot at their current home, with Big Cat pointing out that New York City would be a lot better if most of the people just disappeared.

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Big CatBig Cat

New York would be nice if it wasn't for the 80% of the population that is here

I will go with the state. We're all in right now, New York. Wooohooo! York State the Big Apple... since this quarantine is started... you realize a New York could be nice if like 80% of the population, which is All the time because like walking around during quarantine. It's nice.

Subjective take on urban density.

PFT also managed to offend the entire Midwest and the Pacific Northwest in one fell swoop by targeting Oklahoma, citing both the weather and the lingering trauma of the Seattle SuperSonics move.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Oklahoma is the JV version of Texas and robbed the world of the SuperSonics

Oklahoma... I don't really like the JV Texas. It's JV Texas tornadoes really suck. And also I'll be honest... I still feel like the The Thunder have blood on their hands for robbing the world of the SuperSonics.

The Seattle SuperSonics move to OKC remains one of the most hated events in NBA history.

If your state made the list, just remember it's probably because of your annoying neighbor Troy and not you personally.

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Apr 17, 2020
#11957
Big CatBig Cat

College football is the one sport where fans matter the most

College football is the one sport where I think fans matter the most. Yes, we need we need football in the fall. So hopefully NFL I can watch NFL games without fans and I could bring myself to do that. But if we got Springs football on the other side then boom.

The 2020 seasons were played with limited or no fans; the NFL product remained highly watched while the absence of atmosphere in college football was widely noted as a significant loss.
Win
Apr 17, 2020
#11961
Jay GlazerJay Glazer

Odell Beckham Jr. is not being traded to the Vikings

Odell was not getting traded to the [Vikings]... I don't want to tell anybody that without being a hundred percent right because that's the worst thing you could ever do.

Correct, Odell remained with the Browns through the 2020 season.
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Apr 17, 2020·Fyre Fest
#11967
Big CatBig Cat

I am guaranteeing a Fiesta Bowl victory against UConn

I am guaranteeing a Fiesta Bowl Victory guaranteeing no way I lose in the field. If you don't what if you lose I will not because I'm going to change the slider so much in my favor.

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Big Cat (Guus Tuckerton) did win the Fiesta Bowl as part of his Twitch stream series.
Win
Apr 17, 2020
#11971
Brandon BeaneBrandon Beane

I don't see the Bills moving back into the first round of the 2020 draft

I'll be excited when it's over because at that point I can start figuring out who's on the board and And who we can try and skiing together, but I don't see us going in the first round.

The Bills did not trade into the first round, making their first selection (A.J. Epenesa) in the second round.
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Apr 17, 2020
#11974
Brandon BeaneBrandon Beane

The Patriots will still be good because Bill Belichick is the greatest coach ever

At the end of the day the Patriots Bill Belichick, you know, he is probably the greatest coach of all time. I don't think they're going anywhere.

The Patriots went 7-9 in 2020 and missed the playoffs, marking the beginning of a decline for the franchise.
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Big CatBig Cat

Mississippi is a miserable place and a no-brainer for Mount Flushmore

An absolute no-brainer a few years ago. I did a a college tour... every state had a great time in pretty much all of them. The only one that was a bad time. Just a miserable place to be Mississippi. Oh, wow.

Subjective opinion on state quality.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Delaware is only known for tax shelters and Joe Biden's corpse

Delaware number one a number one Delaware. What is in Delaware? Those people are tax. They've got a heart attack... all that's in Delaware is I guess Joe Biden's corpse and those weird tax companies credit card companies.

Delaware is indeed famous for its corporate tax laws and being the home of Joe Biden.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nebraska is a bottom-tier state because the only thing it has is the College World Series

Nebraska. No disagree... College World Series, don't we all watch that lot of us? No, who won the last College World Series? [Nothing else for Nebraska].

Subjective opinion on state quality.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Utah is a strange state for having its religious freedom tied to a single group

The great state of Utah. Freaks. Religious freedom. Only state, how does that work? Someone explain that to me... I don't understand how one state, how that works.

Subjective cultural commentary.
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Apr 17, 2020
#11982
Christian DawkinsChristian Dawkins

NCAA athletes have a basic human right to monetize their name, image, and likeness

I just want listen the whole idea that everyone's going to get a salary... is probably not accurate, but I do think just the basic human right of being able to monetize your image likeness and name it something that is attainable for athletes. And that that is the thing I think is most realistic and I want to focus on.

NIL laws were passed in 2021, affirming this exact position.

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