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Coach Tom Coughlin, Davante Adams To The Jets, Jerry Jones Is Mad At Everyone, College Football, Playoff Baseball + Listener FAQ’s

Wednesday, October 16, 202412 takes

The Jets have solved everything by hitting the Davante Adams button as he’s traded after a terrible MNF loss. Amari Cooper to the Bills and Jerry Jones is threatening radio hosts (-). Playoff baseball and the Mets tie up the NLCS while Giancarlo Stanton hits bombs (-). College Football talk and is College Football better than ever with the expanded playoff and NIL (-)? Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Ryder Cup tickets pricing out real fans and Embiid is no longer playing back to backs (-). Former Giants and Jaguars Head Coach Tom Coughlin joins the show to talk about his career, winning 2 Super Bowls, starting a new franchise, his face almost freezing off in the cold in Green Bay, Coughlin time and more (-). We finish with listener submitted FAQ’s (-).

Coach Tom Coughlin on Super Bowls, Davante Adams to the Jets, and Super Bowl Value

The New York Jets finally hit the panic button, or as the guys call it, the Davante Adams button. After a miserable Monday Night Football loss where the defense looked lost and the kicker couldn't find the uprights, Woody Johnson decided to distract the entire world by trading for Aaron Rodgers' favorite target. It was a move so calculated it felt like a PR masterclass.

Win
Oct 16, 2024
#4130
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Davante Adams trade was a masterclass in PR by the New York Jets

This is actually a masterclass in PR by Woody Johnson and his son, Erik Johnson and the entire New York Jets organization because they didn't even let the media have a single news cycle where we're talking about what happened on Monday night.

The trade did dominate the news cycle, though it didn't ultimately save the Jets' season.

PFT is already looking toward the horizon of the Rodgers era in New York, predicting that the inevitable conclusion to this saga involves a purple jersey and some questionable legal decisions.

Loss
Oct 16, 2024
#4131
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers will eventually play for the Minnesota Vikings

I have been hoping for the last two years that the way this would all shake out for Aaron Rodgers is he goes to the Jets and then he goes to the Vikings. He does the Brett Favre. Like the guy he started his career out hating the most. It's like you become your parents at some point in life when you get older.

Aaron Rodgers went to the Steelers, not the Vikings. He did not do the Brett Favre move to Minnesota.

While discussing the current Jets' state, Hank took aim at interim head coach Jeff Ulbrich. Not for his play-calling, but for his grooming habits. Hank is convinced that the length and precision of Ulbrich’s beard is fundamentally incompatible with the role of an NFL head coach.

Void
Oct 16, 2024
#4132
HankHank

A head coach cannot have a beard as long as Jeff Ulbrich's

I don't think you could have a beard that long as a head coach. I'm just saying in terms of if you're looking at a head coach, like if you're mocking up a head coach, when are you drawing in a massive beard? The beard just doesn't give head coach vibes.

This is an entirely subjective aesthetic opinion.

Playoff Baseball and College Football Chaos

The Mets tied up the NLCS thanks to some serious power and the absolute sorcery of Sean Manaea. Max is still trying to wrap his head around how a guy who was essentially a career journeyman suddenly became Randy Johnson just by tweaking his arm angle.

Win
Oct 16, 2024
#26521
MaxMax

Sean Manaea's new delivery has made him unhittable despite his career stats

Sean Manaea sucked. And then he just did that one thing to switch it up and now no one can hit him. If you're bad, just do that. Everyone on the Phillies had great numbers against Manaea. Everyone on the Dodgers had great numbers against Manaea, but it doesn't matter 'cause he's just a different pitcher this year.

Manaea was a key factor in the Mets' deep playoff run, validated by his postseason performance.

Turning to Saturday's slate, Big Cat is fully convinced that the current era of the sport is the gold standard. Between NIL flattening out the rosters and the expanded playoff making almost every October game feel like an elimination match, the energy is at an all-time high.

Void
Oct 16, 2024
#4133
Big CatBig Cat

College football is better than it has ever been

I have a belief now that college football is better than it has ever been. And I know there was a lot of handwringing going on with all the changes happening. But we're now in a spot and there's gonna be more change. I get it. Expansion, all that stuff with the NIL. The NIL and the portal flattening it out. So it doesn't feel like this year, maybe Texas, but it doesn't feel outside of Texas that there's those like two or three super teams that no one has a chance against.

Subjective opinion on the quality of the sport, though data shows high viewership and parity in 2024.

While the world is obsessing over the SEC, PFT wants everyone to stop sleeping on Dabo Swinney. Clemson has been quietly dismantling people since their opening week loss to Georgia, and they look like a team that could ruin some dreams in December.

Win
Oct 16, 2024
#26520
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Clemson is actually good and everyone has just forgotten about them

I think as a collective society, we have forgotten about Clemson. [They] just tricked us. [They] aren't as good as Georgia, but they've been killing people.

Clemson remained a top-ranked team and was in the ACC title hunt throughout the season.

However, both Big Cat and PFT agree that as much parity as there is, there is still one monster under the bed. Texas looks like a different species right now, and the guys are waiting to see if Georgia can even keep it competitive this weekend.

Loss
Oct 16, 2024
#4134
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Texas is inevitable and is in a tier by themselves

Texas, to me, Texas will learn a lot about them this weekend. I feel like they're inevitable. I feel like this is Texas and then everybody else.

Texas lost to Georgia shortly after this take, showing they were not entirely 'inevitable'.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

PFT is officially all-in on the Washington Wizards’ future, and it all starts with the lottery balls. He is manifesting Cooper Flagg in DC with a level of confidence that usually leads to heartbreak, but he’s willing to die on that hill.

Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am 100% confident the Washington Wizards will get Cooper Flagg

All I'm saying is I've never been as confident. I've never been as confident in my life of anything as the fact that the wizards are gonna get Cooper Flagg. I'm willing to tell you right now, I will stand on this hill and I will plant my representative banner to say that we're getting Flagg.

The Dallas Mavericks won the draft lottery with a 1.8% chance and selected Cooper Flagg #1 overall, not the Washington Wizards.

Big Cat’s Hot Seat is the PGA and the upcoming Ryder Cup at Bethpage. With ticket prices hitting $750 a day, they are effectively pricing out the exactly the kind of rowdy, drunk New Yorkers that make a home-field advantage actually matter.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

The Ryder Cup pricing is a mistake that ruins home field advantage

People are very upset about the prices for the upcoming Ryder Cup. Next summer at Bethpage... it's $750 for a day. Normally I would say golf fans probably have expendable money... but this is such a fuck you and a mistake to trying to get a home field advantage. If you price out rowdy New Yorkers who want to go to the Ryder Cup and scream heinous shit at all the Europeans, you've completely ruined this.

The ticket prices are objectively $750; the impact on home field advantage is subjective but widely debated.

Finally, Big Cat found some serious value in the Super Bowl futures market. He’s buying stock in Jim Harbaugh’s Chargers, noting that the schedule is soft and the coach is literally willing to have a heart attack to get a win.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

The Chargers at 45-to-1 to win the Super Bowl is an incredible value

I've decided to put a future on the Chargers to win the Super Bowl. They're 45-to-1. I don't think they're gonna win the Super Bowl. I do think we'd get in a spot where they get to the playoffs and we could potentially hedge. This is Jim Harbaugh's team. This is Jim Harbaugh's football team. I think they're gonna get to 10 wins.

The Chargers made the playoffs (11-6) but lost in the Wild Card round to the Texans 12-32. They didn't come close to winning the Super Bowl, so the 45-to-1 bet did not pay off.

Coach Tom Coughlin

The legendary Tom Coughlin joined the show to discuss his Hall of Fame-worthy career, starting the Jaguars from scratch, and those iconic Super Bowl runs with the Giants. He took us back to the infamous -23 degree NFC Championship game in Green Bay, where his face literally looked like it was melting on national television. Coughlin still stands by his guys, especially his quarterback, whom he considers the best to ever do it when the lights are brightest.

Void
Oct 16, 2024
#4142
Tom CoughlinTom Coughlin

Eli Manning is the greatest big-game quarterback I have ever seen

People argue with me, I get it. But he's the greatest big-game quarterback that I've ever seen. I mean the way he approached things and the fact that he really accepted the challenge. He wanted the challenge... I've seen him do it under any circumstance you can imagine.

Subjective claim by a coach about his former player, though Manning's two Super Bowl MVPs support the 'big game' narrative.

We wrapped up the show with some listener FAQ’s, where Hank gave us an update on his quest to dunk. In a move that shocked everyone, he’s going stone-cold sober to ensure his vertical is at its peak come December.

Void
Oct 16, 2024·FAQ
#4144
HankHank

I will not drink alcohol until Thanksgiving to train for my dunk attempt

I'm going. I'm not drinking till Thanksgiving... I'm training every day. It's not something I've like forgot about. Overdrive.

Personal sobriety commitment by Hank to not drink until Thanksgiving for dunk training. The outcome is unverifiable from public records.

If the Jets’ season doesn’t turn around after this trade, at least we know Aaron Rodgers has a very clear career path waiting for him in Minnesota.

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