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Dan Patrick + Mt Rushmore Of Moments We Wish Twitter Existed

Monday, July 23, 201816 takes

Tiger was back and then he wasn't. The course at Carnoustie won the weekend as well as hungover golfers ( - ). Whos back of the week + The Mt Rushmore of moments we wish twitter existed for ( - ). Dan Patrick joins the show for the first time since his Barstool Van Talk episode 2 appearance to talk about sports media in 2018, how much longer he's going to work, and MJ vs Lebron (yes we made him debate this with us) ( - ). Segments include hurt or injured for Noah Syndergaard getting hand foot and mouth disease, thoughts and prayers to the tragic passing of Tony Sparano, Bad Visual Brewers fans giving a standing Ovation to Josh Hader, Stay Woke Lebron is building the all blame team, and a spinzone for Jimmy G

Dan Patrick on Leaving ESPN, Tiger’s Sunday Red, and MJ vs. LeBron

Tiger Woods was back, and then he hit a guy with a golf ball and the dream died. For a few glorious moments at Carnoustie, it felt like 2005 again. Tiger was in his Sunday red, Dads were waking up from their naps across the country, and the leaderboard actually made sense.

Void
Jul 23, 2018
#2945
Big CatBig Cat

Nothing in sports compares to Tiger Woods being in contention on a major Sunday

When Tiger is involved in a major on Sunday, there's nothing like it in sports. And just to have those few moments... everyone was like, this actually could happen. Like Tiger could actually do it. He's wearing his Sunday red. Everyone was excited.

Subjective opinion on the gravity of sports events.

PFT is ready to treat the fan who got hit like the golf version of Steve Bartman. It’s a tough break for the guy who took a heater to the ribs, but he effectively robbed the world of seeing Tiger close out a major in the year of our Lord 2018.

Loss
Jul 23, 2018
#2944
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The fan Tiger Woods hit with a golf ball is responsible for Tiger losing The Open

Tiger was back for a minute, and then he hit a guy with a golf ball, and everything fell apart from that moment on. I hope that guy's a real asshole, the guy that got hit. And I hope it affects him down the line. I hope it becomes like a Steve Bartman situation because he took something very important away from us. He took Tiger being in contention on the 18th hole of a major championship in the year of our Lord 2018 away from the world.

While Tiger did hit a fan and then double-bogeyed, attributing his entire loss to one fan is a humorous exaggeration.

Who’s Back & The Mount Rushmore of Twitter

Who’s Back featured a very mobile Joe Flacco and the ongoing saga of Kawhi Leonard’s move to the North. While everyone in Toronto is trying to convince themselves Kawhi will love the city, Big Cat is convinced we still won’t hear from the man himself for another year.

Loss
Jul 23, 2018·Who's Back
#2948
Big CatBig Cat

Kawhi Leonard will hate Toronto and his uncle will continue to speak for him

Kawhi Leonard, does he like Toronto or not? It was reported that he hates it. He didn't leave his hotel room during the All-Star game. Will he or will he not stay or play or ever do anything else on a basketball court because no one's talked to him in like 10 months and his uncle has taken his brain and is now speaking for him.

Kawhi Leonard won the NBA Championship and Finals MVP with Toronto in his only season there, appearing quite content with the result.

The Mount Rushmore of moments we wish Twitter existed for was one of the most contentious segments in show history. From the Malice at the Palace to the OJ Chase, the guys looked at how social media would have fundamentally broken the world during historical events. Big Cat took a dark turn with the Cuban Missile Crisis, suggesting that 280 characters might have been enough to trigger a nuclear winter.

Void
Jul 23, 2018·Mt. Rushmore
#2949
Big CatBig Cat

Twitter would have caused the Cuban Missile Crisis to actually happen

The first one I have is the Cuban Missile Crisis. So the Cuban Missile Crisis, when the world is about to go in a nuclear standoff, I think Twitter might have actually had it happen. Like if JFK was tweeting at the Russians, like that probably would have caused the Cuban Missile Crisis to actually happen.

This is an unprovable historical counterfactual.

Dan Patrick Joins the Show

Dan Patrick finally returned to talk to Big Cat and PFT for the first time since the legendary, unreleased second episode of Barstool Van Talk. Dan addressed the "curse" of his appearance and why he eventually decided to move on from the mothership. He admitted that the spark for the 6 o'clock SportsCenter simply wasn't there anymore.

Win
Jul 23, 2018
#26337
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

I left ESPN because I hit a wall and wasn't getting any better at the 6 o'clock SportsCenter

That's one of the reasons why I left ESPN. I wasn't enjoying the 6 o'clock sports center the last three years. I just thought, man, I hit a wall. I wouldn't get any better. I remember saying to my wife, I'm just not getting better. And she goes, yeah, but you're the only one that knows. I said, but that's not the only one that matters.

The speaker is stating his personal motivation for a past action, which is a factual claim about his own history.

The conversation shifted to the NFL, where Dan dropped some massive theories regarding the New England Patriots’ power structure. According to Dan, the Jimmy Garoppolo trade wasn't just a standard personnel move; it was a result of Tom Brady exerting his influence to ensure his successor was shipped out of town.

Void
Jul 23, 2018
#2951
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

The Patriots only traded Jimmy Garoppolo because Tom Brady forced them to

It doesn't make sense what happened in New England. If you tell me that that organization all of a sudden said, we're not trading Garoppolo. You can't have Garoppolo. Then all of a sudden you could have Garoppolo for a second-round draft pick. It doesn't make sense. And then, you know, so Brady, if he's pushing them to say, look, I'm not retiring here. Get rid of the kid. It feels like now Brady's indebted to them a little bit because they did what it felt like he asked them to do.

Widely reported but never officially confirmed as a 'mandate' from Brady.

Dan also thinks the TB12 retirement tour could have ended much sooner if the Philly Special hadn't happened. He believes Brady was ready to walk away on top if the Patriots had secured that sixth ring against the Eagles.

Void
Jul 23, 2018
#2950
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

Tom Brady would have retired if the Patriots had beaten the Eagles in the Super Bowl

If they had won the Super Bowl this year [Super Bowl LII], I believe he retired. Because I think when Gisele said that to the CBS Morning Show, she wasn't provoked to talk about his concussions. She was putting the pressure on him, I think, to say, Tommy's had concussions. He's not going to listen to me, but maybe he'll listen to somebody else.

Since the Patriots lost, we cannot know for sure, but given Brady played 5 more seasons including another win with the Pats, it's unlikely a win would have made him quit.

MJ vs. LeBron and the All-Blame Team

To wrap up, the guys forced Dan into the debate he hates most: MJ versus LeBron. While Dan has seen the greatness of both, he actually sided with the King when it came to a hypothetical prime-on-prime matchup.

Void
Jul 23, 2018
#2952
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

I would take five LeBrons over five Michael Jordans in a prime matchup

[Big Cat]: Five MJs, five LeBrons. Who you got? Both in their prime. [Dan Patrick]: I'll take five LeBrons. LeBron's going to be as accomplished. The fact he went to eight straight NBA finals.

Unverifiable hypothetical.

Big Cat isn't buying it, mostly because he watched LeBron's defensive effort—or lack thereof—over the last season. He’s convinced LeBron’s latest moves in Los Angeles aren't about winning a title immediately, but about surrounding himself with enough eccentric personalities that he can never be the primary target of criticism.

Win
Jul 23, 2018·Stay Woke
#2955
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is building the 'All-Blame Team' to ensure no one blames him for the Lakers' 2018-19 season

I think LeBron is now just putting together the all blame team. He has put together the greatest blame team of all time. JaVale McGee, Lance Stevenson, Rondo, and Michael Beasley. LeBron James has no intentions of winning next year. He just has intentions of making sure no one blames him.

The Lakers missed the playoffs in 2018-19, and the supporting cast (McGee, Stephenson, Beasley, Rondo) were frequently blamed for the team's dysfunction.

Whether it’s Michael Beasley or Lance Stephenson, the Lakers are certainly going to provide plenty of distractions while LeBron waits for Kawhi to show up.

If only we had a time machine to see if LeVar Ball could beat MJ one-on-one in 1992.

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Loss
Jul 23, 2018
#2946
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Tiger Woods has won a major in every country that has a Perkins restaurant

Tiger Woods has won a major tournament in every single country that has a Perkins restaurant. That's a fact. Well, there haven't been any majors played in Canada. I'll give it to him.

Fact ClaimGolfHotSarcastic
Perkins exists in the US and Canada. Tiger has won majors in the US. No majors are held in Canada. Perkins does not exist in the UK (Scotland), where Tiger has won Open Championships. So the claim is literally false.
Loss
Jul 23, 2018·Who's Back
#2947
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco's mobility is night and day compared to last year

Joe Flacco's mobility is night and day compared to last year. He's healthy now. Flacco is full speed. The difference is evident. No limitations as a scrambler. Or even on designed runs. So they're opening up the playbook for Flacco. They're going to let him show off the wheels.

Flacco was benched mid-season in 2018 for Lamar Jackson, and his mobility certainly didn't revolutionize the Ravens' offense.
Void
Jul 23, 2018
#26336
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

The morning sports media market is completely oversaturated and lacks a captive audience

The morning market is so oversaturated. And people's viewing patterns when they wake up in the morning, it feels like you do the same thing every morning where you may tune into something, click on something, and then that's it. It's hard to get that captive audience there in the morning that isn't already paying attention to something else.

This is a subjective assessment of media trends and audience behavior that aligns with the general shift away from linear morning television.
Loss
Jul 23, 2018
#26338
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The XFL could be successful if it uses an NFL strike or lockout to poach players

I think that they might actually be onto something though if the CBA stuff doesn't get worked out because the NFL could go on strike or there might be a lockout. In which case the XFL has an opportunity to poach some players and get their season started, you know, while the NFL is not even playing. And I think that might actually work.

The 2020 XFL season was cut short by COVID-19, not an NFL strike, and the league did not successfully 'poach' active NFL stars on a large scale.
Push
Jul 23, 2018
#2954
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James didn't play a lick of defense in the 2017-18 season

He literally didn't play defense. There was many times where he literally did not play defense. He did not play defense in 2017-18. He didn't.

While LeBron's defensive metrics and 'effort' were criticized that season, 'literally didn't play' is obviously hyperbolic.
Void
Jul 23, 2018
#2953
Dan PatrickDan Patrick

Michael Jordan could not survive in today's social media environment

Mike, Mike couldn't survive in today's social media. He wouldn't have done well with social media.

Subjective historical speculation.
Loss
Jul 23, 2018·Spin Zone
#2956
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Spinzone: Jimmy Garoppolo was actually saving kids' lives by going on a date with a porn star

The porn star won an auction, a charity auction, to spend an evening with Jimmy Garoppolo. So he was saving kids' lives by taking the porn star on a date. I don't know if this is true or not. In fact, it sounds exactly like something that you would make up to tell your girlfriend if you got caught.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
This was a satirical 'spin' and not a factual claim; the 'charity auction' story was never verified and was likely made up for the bit.

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