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Dana White + NFL Week 15

Monday, December 17, 201816 takes

NFL Week 15 Recap and fastest 2 minutes ( - ). The Bears clinched the North, the Browns are somehow still alive, Collinsworth went goofy on us, and Romo had an orgasm ( - ). We clean up the playoff picture and predict who will be making that good noise in the playoffs ( - ). Who's back of the week ( - ). UFC President Dana White joins the show to talk about his feud with Oscar De La Hoya, the evolution of UFC and pro fighting, how he is the greatest actor of all time every time he acts disappointed in McGregor, and the weird days of affliction shirts and true religion jeans ( - ). Segments include Lowmans trophy finalists for the best FB in the country, new segment "What the fuck is Mike Tomlin saying?", PR 101 for Marlins Man and the Black Sox scandal, Pinstripe Update, Hank hot in the streets, and Mondays Readings "Lenny Dykstra is now a torah scholar".

Dana White on De La Hoya Feud, UFC Evolution, and NFL Week 15

NFL Week 15 is in the books, and Big Cat is officially walking on air because the Chicago Bears are NFC North Champions. Slaying the dragon that is Aaron Rodgers at Soldier Field was the ultimate catharsis, especially with Khalil Mack picking up a sack using nothing but his backside. The guys spent some time wondering if the Rams are officially broken after another stinker, and PFT has a theory that Sean McVay's biggest strength might be his downfall.

Void
Dec 17, 2018
#8718
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Sean McVay's photographic memory is actually a curse when things go poorly

I think Sean McVay's photographic memory is a blessing and a curse because what do they always say? You have to have a short memory to get past the fucked up plays. So having a photographic memory is great when things are going really well. But then when things go really poorly, that's all you think about.

McVay would eventually overcome these slumps to win a Super Bowl, proving his memory isn't an insurmountable curse.

Speaking of teams going in opposite directions, Nick Foles is back in our lives and doing Nick Foles things. After the Eagles upset the Rams as massive underdogs, Big Cat is starting to wonder if Carson Wentz is looking at a permanent backup role if the magic continues into January.

Void
Dec 17, 2018
#8719
Big CatBig Cat

The Eagles cannot go back to Carson Wentz if Nick Foles runs the table and makes the playoffs

If Nick Foles runs the table here and the Eagles get into the playoffs and let's say he wins a game or two, how can you go back to Carson Wentz? This guy, like, that was a game 13.5-point underdogs. Everyone said the Eagles season was over. He's throwing jump balls to Alshon Jeffrey. He's getting the offense going.

Foles did lead them to the playoffs and won a wild card game (Double Doink), but the Eagles eventually stuck with Wentz before trading him years later.

The Patriots Problem and Browns Life

Hank is officially in crisis mode after the Patriots fell to the Steelers. It wasn't just a loss; it was the way they looked doing it. While most fans are used to the "is the dynasty over?" talk every December, even the resident sunshine pumper is starting to admit that Father Time is knocking on the door in Foxborough.

Loss
Dec 17, 2018
#8720
HankHank

Tom Brady's age is finally starting to catch up to him

I think there's a lot of factors in play. Brady might be—age might be catching up to him. [Big Cat: Are you worried?] Yes.

This was famously the year Brady went on to win the Super Bowl LIII against the Rams just two months later, and he played for five more seasons.

On the flip side, the Cleveland Browns are somehow, against all odds and the ghost of Hue Jackson, still mathematically alive for the playoffs. It requires a specific sequence of events involving a tie between the Colts and Titans, but Baker Mayfield has this team believing. It’s a stark contrast to the Dolphins, who Big Cat thinks might be fraudulent despite their record.

Win
Dec 17, 2018
#8721
Big CatBig Cat

The Miami Dolphins might be the worst 7-7 team in NFL history

The Dolphins are the other team where it's like, this team is 7-7. They might be the worst 7-7 team in the history of the NFL. And I'm sure Dolphins fans will get upset about that. But actually, you'll probably agree with me. They make no sense.

The Dolphins finished 7-9 and had a -114 point differential, one of the worst ever for a 7-win team.

Dana White in Studio

UFC President Dana White joined the show for a high-energy interview that covered everything from his legitimate hatred for Oscar De La Hoya to the early days of the promotion. Dana didn't hold back on the De La Hoya/Chuck Liddell fight, calling it a disgrace and doubling down on why fighters over a certain age need to stay on the treadmill instead of the Octagon.

Void
Dec 17, 2018
#26815
Dana WhiteDana White

Fighting is a young man's game and 50-year-olds have no business in the ring

At the end of the day, 50-year-olds have no business fighting. Fighting is a young man's game. There's some guys that have been able to beat time and still do well but they're very, very few and far between. 49-year-old people barely get on the treadmill and walk. You're going to be fighting in a professional fight? It's ridiculous.

While subjective, this is a widely held medical and sporting consensus in MMA.

Dana also addressed the wild antics of Conor McGregor, essentially admitting that while he plays the "disappointed dad" on camera, the chaos is undeniably good for the bottom line. He also took a trip down memory lane to roast the early UFC aesthetic, specifically the era of skull-printed shirts and overpriced denim.

Void
Dec 17, 2018
#8727
Dana WhiteDana White

The 'Affliction' and 'True Religion' fashion days of the UFC were horrible

The affliction days were bad. The affliction days were bad. It was so funny you just said that to me because we were looking we were doing all these documentaries about the ufc... affliction horrible those days and the god what were those jeans true religion. Oh my God. I see the true religion jeans and all that stuff I'm like shoot me.

This reflects a general cultural consensus that those early 2010s fashion trends did not age well.

Before letting him go, Dana touched on the legacy of Jon Jones. Despite the talent, the off-field issues remain the biggest "what if" in the history of the sport. Dana believes that without those distractions, Jones would have transcended the sport entirely.

Void
Dec 17, 2018
#8724
Dana WhiteDana White

Jon Jones would have been the LeBron of MMA if he had his personal life together

If you look at how good Jon Jones is, and if he had his personal life together, what a big star he'd be right now and how much money he would have made. He would have been the LeBron of this sport.

Jones is widely considered the GOAT in the cage, but his star power never quite reached mainstream crossover status like LeBron.

Fullback Fever and Lenny's Quest

The show introduced a major new initiative: The Lowman Trophy. It’s about time the hardest-working guys on the field—the fullbacks—got their own Heisman. PFT and Big Cat announced the three finalists who will be vying for the honor of being the nation's premier lead blocker.

We also checked in with Mike Tomlin's latest bizarre press conference quotes and took a deep dive into a Monday Reading that you couldn't make up: Lenny Dykstra is now an amateur Torah scholar. Big Cat thinks the entertainment value of Nails searching for the divine is a gold mine.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

A documentary of Lenny Dykstra looking for God would be the most watched thing ever

This is the greatest story of all time. Lenny Dykstra's pursuit to find God. How is this not a Netflix documentary? This would be the most watched thing of all time. Lenny Dykstra just walking around the world looking for God.

Given Dykstra's reputation, such a documentary would undoubtedly be a viral hit among sports fans.

If only we could all find a rabbi who is okay with dick jokes and kosher pizza.

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More Takes

Void
Dec 17, 2018
#8717
Big CatBig Cat

I would not swap Mitchell Trubisky for Aaron Rodgers if it meant swapping their contracts

[If asked to swap Mitchell Trubisky for Aaron Rodgers and their contracts] No. No. If we had to swap contracts, it would be over the cap... So our defense wouldn't be as good. We're going to play some defense. We're going to run the ball.

This is a subjective roster management strategy, though history showed that Rodgers remained elite while Trubisky struggled to maintain a starting role.
Win
Dec 17, 2018
#8728
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I will cut off the tip of Big Cat's pinky if the Seahawks win the Super Bowl

I personally Dunchained the Seahawks. I think they were the inaugural Dunchain. And listen, Big Cat is being very, very accountable with his Texans Dunchain, saying that he will cut his pinky off. I just want to say I will be held accountable as well. If the Seahawks win the Super Bowl, I will cut off the tip of Big Cat's pinky.

The Seahawks lost in the Wild Card round to the Cowboys, so Big Cat's pinky remained safe.
Win
Dec 17, 2018
#26813
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Vance Joseph should be fired immediately for kicking a field goal on 4th and 1 while down four

Vance Joseph... you Dan Quinned yourself. The all-time dumbest thing when he kicked a field goal... down four with like three minutes left and kicked a field goal on fourth and one from about the seven. You should be fired instantly when that happens.

Vance Joseph was indeed fired by the Broncos at the conclusion of the 2018 season.
Void
Dec 17, 2018
#26814
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dak Prescott is more likely to airmail a pass than hit a receiver in the numbers on throws over 12 yards

Dak Prescott sucked [today]. He's airmailing. He does this thing where if he has to throw a pass, it's further than like... I'm going to say 12 yards downfield. He's more likely to miss the guy high by three feet than he is to hit him in the numbers.

This is a subjective evaluation of a player's accuracy profile, though Dak's passing metrics in 2018 were middle-of-the-pack.
Loss
Dec 17, 2018
#8722
Big CatBig Cat

I could throw for more than 57 yards in a regular NFL game

If you gave me a Nerf ball, I'd throw for more than 57 yards. [PFT: In an NFL game?] In an NFL game. I actually, you know what? Fuck it. I'd throw for more than 57 yards with a regular ball. I'd be a gunslinger. I'd just throw it every play. Really what I'd just do is screen pass, screen pass, screen pass.

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Big Cat would almost certainly be sacked or intercepted before reaching 57 yards against an NFL defense, but the point stands about Kessler's poor play.
Void
Dec 17, 2018
#8723
Dana WhiteDana White

Tito Ortiz is literally one of the dumbest human beings on planet earth

I think that [Oscar De La Hoya] is getting a lot of this information from Tito Ortiz who is literally and I'm not just saying this to be real he's one of the dumbest human beings on planet earth he's primate level this guy

Whether someone is the 'dumbest' is subjective, though Ortiz's public speaking blunders are well-documented.
Void
Dec 17, 2018
#26816
Dana WhiteDana White

The government are the biggest gangsters on the planet

The athletic commissions, California, Nevada, New York, they're run by the government. The government runs—and that's who we answer to. And you don't want to fuck with the government. They're the biggest gangsters on the planet.

This is a purely subjective political/business opinion.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Tomlin and Jason Garrett are the same coach: 'the dog in the fire saying this is fine'

Mike Tomlin and Jason Garrett are the dogs sitting in the fire saying this is fine at all times. They love to just stand on the sidelines and say to themselves, well, this time it's got to be different. Like we're doing the exact same thing we've done since the beginning of time, but this time it's going to work.

Both coaches are known for their consistency and belief in their 'process,' though Tomlin has been far more successful long-term.

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