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Drew Magary 08/08/16

Monday, August 8, 201621 takes

The Olympics are finally here, only to be over shadowed by A-Rod's retirement announcement. Hall of Fame game talk and favorite Rio moments from the opening weekend. Mt Rushmore of Sauces. GQ writer Drew Magary discusses his new book, the pain of being a Vikings fan, and how happy he is that he is on Hulk Hogan's good side (kind of). Segments include PR 101 for the US Basketball team "accidentally" walking into a Brazilian Brothel. Mike Greenberg's Dumb Rules, Paralympic Update, Witch Hunt for Jim Furyk, and Not afraid to go there for the A's strength coach that illegally videotaped the team shower's.

Drew Magary on The Hike, Vikings Pain, and A-Rod’s Retirement

It is a somber Monday because a Yankees legend is hanging them up, and we aren't talking about Derek Jeter. Mark Teixeira is retiring, and Big Cat thinks he might be the most invisible star in the history of the sport.

Void
Aug 8, 2016
#6741
Big CatBig Cat

Mark Teixeira is one of the most forgettable great players of all time.

Mark Teixeira, I think, goes down as the most forgettable great player ever. Like one of the most forgettable great players of all time. He has over 400 home runs. He was great at first base. He won a title. And do you think there is a single Mark Teixeira fan out there?

Teixeira finished with 409 HRs and 5 Gold Gloves, but is rarely discussed as a top-tier legend of his era.

But the real headline is Alex Rodriguez finally calling it a career. A-Rod got in front of the cameras to announce he’s playing his final game this Friday, and naturally, Big Cat and PFT are questioning if he ever really belonged in those pinstripes anyway.

Void
Aug 8, 2016
#6743
Big CatBig Cat

Alex Rodriguez never truly earned his pinstripes.

Did A-Rod ever earn his pinstripes? I would say no.

This is a subjective debate about team legacy and culture.
Open
Aug 8, 2016
#6742
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A-Rod will enter the Hall of Fame as a Seattle Mariner.

I don't think he's a true Yankee. I think he goes in the Hall of Fame as a Mariner.

A-Rod is not yet in the HOF, and while he played 12 seasons in NY vs 7 in Seattle, PFT's prediction is mostly to needle Yankee fans.

The Hall of Fame Game Disaster and Steroid Mount Rushmore

Football was supposed to be back, but the NFL managed to screw up the easiest part: painting the grass. The Hall of Fame Game was canceled because the end zone paint turned into a literal slip-and-slide, which PFT is convinced was a deep-state hit job by NBC to help the Olympics.

Loss
Aug 8, 2016
#6745
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Hall of Fame game cancellation was a conspiracy to force viewers to watch the Olympics.

The Olympics, tonight was supposed to be their big night. They needed the ratings... NBC, their president is a guy named Steve Burke. Steve Burke just happens to be a former Disney executive. Maybe he called in a favor... [the painter] is probably the easiest person in the world to pay off.

The game was canceled due to genuine safety concerns over turf paint solidifying; there is no evidence of a media conspiracy.

With A-Rod retiring and the Hall of Fame Game in the dirt, the conversation naturally turned to an impromptu Mount Rushmore of Steroid Users. Hank went straight for the most physically imposing guy he could think of.

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HankHank

LaRon Landry is the number one steroid user because he is 'half Hulk.'

Number one [steroid user], I got LaRon Landry. Oh, you're going outside of baseball. Okay. There were a couple pictures of LaRon where it was like, this dude is half Hulk.

Landry was suspended three times for PEDs during his career, supporting the claim that he was a notable user.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Cal Ripken Jr. probably used a lot of steroids.

Mount Rushmore of steroid users. Cal Ripken Jr. He's number one. People didn't know that. Probably used a lot of steroids.

There is no evidence or credible allegation that Cal Ripken Jr. ever used steroids; this is a purely comedic take.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Mark McGwire is the top steroid user, and his 1998 home run title should have belonged to Sammy Sosa.

I got Mark McGwire. It's a shame what he did to Sammy Sosa that season because that should have been Sammy's home run title. So Mark McGwire is my number one.

McGwire did hit more home runs than Sosa in 1998 (70 to 66), so literals results favor McGwire, while the fairness is subjective.

Drew Magary on Vikings Fandom

GQ and Deadspin writer Drew Magary joined the show to promote his new book, *The Hike*, and to bond over the shared misery of being a sports fan. Being a Vikings fan specifically requires a high pain tolerance, but Drew hasn't given up on the current roster just yet.

Loss
Aug 8, 2016
#6755
Drew MagaryDrew Magary

I unequivocally believe in Teddy Bridgewater as a franchise quarterback.

I do [believe in Teddy Bridgewater]. Yes, unequivocally... his arm strength is a problem, but it's the same problem that Rivers has had and Rivers is a perfectly fine quarterback... I know he has the arm strength of a dragonfly, but I like him.

Bridgewater's career with the Vikings was derailed by a severe knee injury in late August 2016. He never became the 'Philip Rivers' tier starter Drew hoped for.
Loss
Aug 8, 2016
#6757
Drew MagaryDrew Magary

The Vikings will win the NFC North this season.

I have the Vikings winning the division, which means they're all going to die in a bus crash or something like that. Something awful will happen. But I really like the team.

The Packers won the NFC North in 2016. The Vikings finished 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

We also got into the nitty-gritty of the Gawker downfall and Hulk Hogan. Drew weighed in on the reality of running a high-volume media site and how a scandal like the one that took down Gawker is basically a ticking time bomb for anyone in the industry.

Void
Aug 8, 2016
#6761
Drew MagaryDrew Magary

It is unavoidable for every high-volume media company to eventually have a scandal like the Hulk Hogan Gawker story.

It seems like it's unavoidable at certain points to have some story, because you're just churning out lots of content, to have some story go awry and go off the rails... I think that it's difficult, almost impossible to avoid.

The 'unavoidability' of a scandal is an industry opinion and cannot be definitively proven true or false.

Mount Rushmore of Sauces

The episode wrapped up with a very heated Mount Rushmore of Sauces and Condiments. Big Cat stood his ground on a very controversial white substance while PFT tried to expand the definition of 'sauce' to include basically anything you can put in a bowl.

Void
Aug 8, 2016·Mt. Rushmore
#6749
Big CatBig Cat

Mayonnaise is a great condiment that needs to be destigmatized.

Mayo doesn't get enough respect... If there's one thing I want to bring back in this world, it's the destigmatization... it's that mayo is a great condiment and people should not be ashamed to use it.

Subjective taste preference.
Void
Aug 8, 2016·Mt. Rushmore
#6753
Big CatBig Cat

Ketchup is a trash condiment.

Ketchup's trash, man.

Subjective food opinion.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Queso and guacamole both qualify as sauces or condiments.

Number two, queso. Oh, man, that's cheating... obviously queso. No, it's also a condiment. You can put queso on a steak... you can put queso on a sandwich. Number three is salsa. Number three is guacamole. You can get it on a sub.

The classification of these items as sauces versus dips is a matter of culinary semantics.

Hank, true to form, ignored the classics and went with a combination he claims to have invented himself, along with a dessert-themed fry dip.

Void
HankHank

The best 'sauce' is 'Barbacuffalo,' a mix of barbecue and buffalo sauce.

My number one [sauce] is Barbacuffalo sauce. It's when you mix barbecue and buffalo sauce together. Hank invented this a few years ago and he eats buffalo and barbecue sauce combined.

Taste in sauces is subjective.
Void
Aug 8, 2016·Mt. Rushmore
#6751
HankHank

The best 'sauce' is dipping fries into a Wendy's chocolate frosty.

The chocolate frosties from Wendy's. Dip fries in a chocolate frosty. That's the best sauce there is.

Subjective taste preference.

LeBron James is still a free agent, and we won't stop talking about it until he signs or the world ends.

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Void
Aug 8, 2016
#6747
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bob Costas was a better Olympic broadcaster when he had pink eye.

My big thing is I miss pink eye Bob Costas. It's not the same with him with two functional eyeballs out there. I miss it. I miss it. He was so good when he was playing hurt. I actually think he was better when he only had one eye.

The quality of a broadcaster's work while having pink eye is purely subjective.
Win
Aug 8, 2016
#6759
Drew MagaryDrew Magary

Jay Cutler will never make 'the leap' at age 32.

I'm not scared of Cutler... I don't think [him putting it all together] is going to happen.

Cutler struggled in 2016, playing only 5 games, and was released by the Bears following the season.
Void
Aug 8, 2016·PR 101
#22594
Big CatBig Cat

The US Basketball team should just say they were 'guys being dudes' to explain accidentally walking into a Brazilian brothel.

If the USA team wants to keep all their fans, they just say, listen, we're just guys being dudes. Finally a place where guys can go to a bar by themselves, not be hassled by women. We found it. The only spa in all of Rio de Janeiro that only allows men. And then, whoops, turns out it was a bunch of prostitutes there.

This is a satirical PR strategy and not a verifiable prediction or fact claim.
Loss
Aug 8, 2016
#6762
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Vladimir Putin's decision to dope the Paralympic team shows an admirable commitment to winning.

I almost respect that. Like I'm now kind of on Putin's side. If you're going to the extreme lengths of taking your most vulnerable citizens and saying, we're going to pump you up with horse steroids, that's at least a commitment to winning.

The Russian team was indeed suspended for doping, but the 'admirable' nature of it is satirical.
Void
Aug 8, 2016
#6765
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jim Furyk's 58 deserves an asterisk because he didn't even win the tournament.

I was about to say, like, shouldn't there be an asterisk on his round? It absolutely is. I mean, it happens all the time. So I guess good for Furyk. But like at the end of the day, you know, you don't get a trophy because he shot a 58.

Furyk did shoot a 58, which is the record, but he finished T5 in the tournament. The 'asterisk' is purely an opinion.
Loss
Aug 8, 2016·Witch Hunt
#22595
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Furyk probably has a secret second family that he has been hiding for years.

I wouldn't be surprised if Jim Furyk has like a second family that pops up soon... You don't want to get that many people talking about you because you probably have an entire second family that you've had for like 10 years. You have a six and an eight year old with a totally different woman than your wife.

Hot TakeGolfScorchingSarcastic
There has never been any evidence that Jim Furyk has a secret second family.

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