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Former Oakland Raiders CEO Amy Trask 12/21/16

Wednesday, December 21, 201614 takes

Recap of the first annual Barstool Sports Presents Pardon My Take Presents Wet The Beak Ponzi Scheme Awareness Bowl( - ). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (- ). Former Oakland Raiders CEO Amy Trask joins the show to talk about her time with the Raiders, Mark Davis, and how to build a successful team in the NFL. She also discusses her new book "Negotiating Like A Woman" ( - ). Segments include Respect The Biz, Grumors, Locker Room Talk, Fair Play, As a white guy, and That's enough internet for today.

Amy Trask on Al Davis, Raider Nation, and the Princess of Darkness

Big Cat and PFT are officially successful bowl owners. The first annual Barstool Sports Presents Pardon My Take Presents Wet The Beak Ponzi Scheme Awareness Bowl is in the books, and it was a masterpiece of guerrilla journalism. While other bowls are dealing with the "epidemic" of star players sitting out to protect their draft stock, the PMT Bowl had zero opt-outs and an intern Royal Rumble that sent Glenny Balls to the hospital for 40 stitches.

PFT has a very specific theory on why guys like Christian McCaffrey and Leonard Fournette are skipping their bowl games, and it all comes down to the quality of the suits running the show.

Void
Dec 21, 2016
#17521
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Star players only sit out bowl games when the bowl has poor leadership

If those two clowns of bowls [the Citrus Bowl and the Sun Bowl] had actual leadership running the show, I don't think that the star players would be sitting out.

The outcome is subjective, but the specific claim is satirical and part of a bit about their own bowl game.

Big Cat was a little more sympathetic to the players, mostly because he loves a good "system is corrupt" angle. He also took some time to absolutely dismantle Kirk Herbstreit for criticizing the kids, pointing out that it’s easy to say you’d play "one last time" when you weren't actually good enough to have an NFL career waiting for you.

Void
Dec 21, 2016
#17524
Big CatBig Cat

I have no problem with players sitting out bowl games because the system is corrupt

I have no problem with any of these guys sitting out any of the bowls... I like players taking care of themselves when the system is corrupt.

This is an inherently subjective opinion about player autonomy and the collegiate system.

The Princess of Darkness

Former Oakland Raiders CEO Amy Trask joined the show to discuss her thirty years with the Silver and Black. She is a total pro and somehow managed to survive an interview where Big Cat and PFT immediately asked her "Sup?" and tried to get her to admit that white men are a persecuted class.

Amy shared some incredible stories about working for Al Davis, including how he complimented her by saying he "doesn't consider her a woman" when he wanted to cuss in meetings. She also gave some insight into just how much Al Davis respected the power of the league office.

Void
Dec 21, 2016
#27461
Amy TraskAmy Trask

The NFL Commissioner is perhaps more powerful than the President of the United States

Al [Davis] believed the NFL was very, very, very powerful. He believed, you know, at one point he said to me... the commissioner is powerful and something to the effect of, you know, perhaps more powerful than the president of the United States.

This is a subjective comparison of power between two very different institutions.

Despite the Raiders' success this year and their potential move to Las Vegas, Amy made it clear that her heart stays in Oakland. She’s a Raider for life, and the idea of working for another front office is completely off the table.

Win
Dec 21, 2016
#27462
Amy TraskAmy Trask

I would never work for another NFL team because being a Raider is not fungible

I've been approached a number of times... since leaving the Raiders. I don't [have interest] for two primary reasons. I was a Raider. I spent almost 30 years as a Raider. And to me, that's not fungible... I don't know that I could ever wear the colors of another team.

To date, Amy Trask has not taken another executive role with an NFL team since leaving the Raiders in 2013.

We also got into the current state of the team, Derek Carr’s ability to play in the cold, and whether or not the Raiders are officially "back" now that they've clinched a playoff berth.

Win
Dec 21, 2016
#17525
Amy TraskAmy Trask

The Raiders are officially 'back' this year

The Raiders are headed for the playoffs. They've clinched a spot, and now it remains to be seen what they do with that opportunity... Of course they're back this year. They're back. Raiders are back.

The 2016 Raiders finished 12-4 and made the playoffs, though they lost in the Wild Card round.

Grumors and Respect the Biz

With coaching vacancies opening up, the guys officially launched "Grumors" (Gruden Rumors). The Los Angeles Rams are reportedly looking at Jon Gruden, which Big Cat thinks is the only way to properly open a billion-dollar stadium in Hollywood.

Loss
Dec 21, 2016·Grumors
#17528
Big CatBig Cat

The Rams need to hire John Gruden because a new stadium requires a 'splash' hire

The Los Angeles Rams are moving toward a meeting with ESPN analyst John Gruden... that's really nice because you need a splash, and nothing says a splash like a guy who hasn't been coaching for about 15 years... they need a coach to bring in the new stadium.

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The Rams did not hire Gruden; they hired Sean McVay in January 2017.

PFT, ever the contrarian, thinks the Rams might be moving too fast and should look at a familiar face to keep things steady.

Loss
Dec 21, 2016·Groomers
#17529
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams should consider rehiring Jeff Fisher for consistency

I think what you need in L.A., and this might go contrary to popular opinion, you need somebody with a steady hand, somebody that's done this type of thing before, someone that's saved the course, consistency, a Jeff Fisher type, for example. So maybe we can get that rumor going, that the Rams are... They're willing to take Jeff back.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
The Rams never rehired Fisher and immediately became Super Bowl contenders with McVay.

Finally, the guys checked in on a security guard at the Chargers-Raiders game who was caught "warming his hands" a little too vigorously near the cheerleaders. While the rest of the internet was disgusted, PFT decided to pivot the blame toward the league's marketing department for creating an environment with too much alpha-male energy.

Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL is to blame for security guards masturbating because they put hot cheerleaders on the sidelines

Why do they put the cheerleaders at NFL games if we're not allowed to masturbate to them in the stadium?... It is the NFL's fault because they kind of asked for it. You don't put hot women on the sidelines and expect us not to masturbate. A bunch of alpha males just walking around.

This is a satirical moral claim rather than a verifiable fact.

If you see a guy in a van with a bowl haircut at P.F. Chang's this week, tell Mark Davis we said hi.

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Loss
Dec 21, 2016
#17522
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Christian McCaffrey lacks the genetic benefits and pedigree of Leonard Fournette

When you look at Christian McCaffrey, this is a guy that's had to scrap and work and motor and study and think his way to everything that he is today. And then you look at Leonard Fournette, and he's got all the great genetics in the world, whereas a guy like Christian McCaffrey doesn't have that benefit, doesn't have the pedigree.

Hot TakeFootballHotSarcastic
Factually, McCaffrey has elite NFL pedigree. The take is satirizing how white and black athletes are scouted differently.
Win
Dec 21, 2016
#17523
Big CatBig Cat

Kirk Herbstreit's take on players sitting out bowl games is invalid because he wasn't an NFL prospect

[Kirk Herbstreit] forgot to mention the fact that he only started one season at Ohio State and he wasn't good enough to play in the NFL, so that wasn't even an option for him.

Herbstreit did only start one season and did not play in the NFL, making Big Cat's critique of his perspective factually grounded.
Win
Dec 21, 2016
#17527
Amy TraskAmy Trask

There is a substantial chance the Raiders move to Las Vegas

I certainly think there's a substantial chance that they do, but the end of that story is not yet written... the team seems very, very committed to leaving Oakland.

The Raiders officially moved to Las Vegas in 2020 after the NFL owners approved it in 2017.
Win
Dec 21, 2016
#17526
Amy TraskAmy Trask

It is yet to be proven if Derek Carr can win in cold weather

We saw that the team had some problems in Kansas City. Some people want to attribute that to the pinky. I don't necessarily agree that we should be pointing to a pinky... We'll see because the team could have to travel to New England. We don't yet know if that will be the case.

Derek Carr's career record in games below 40 degrees became a persistent negative stat (0-5 through 2019, 2-10 eventually), proving her skepticism reasonable.
Void
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It is an ethics violation for NBA media to vote on the All-Star Game

If you're going to have journalists that cover the NBA determining what's going on in the NBA and who's good or not... That's just a major ethics violation. Conflict of interest. Stay in your lane.

This is a satirical take on journalistic integrity in sports media.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

Donald Trump is the Rosa Parks of white presidents

Trump, he'll make it better. White guys. Finally a white guy as a president. He's basically the Rosa Parks of white presidents. He's healing our nation.

Satirical comparison that is inherently non-factual.

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