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Greg Olsen, Mt Rushmore Of Everyday Villains, The Boys Get Their Championship Rings And Lebron Is Not Retiring

Monday, July 17, 202315 takes

Our long national nightmare is over, Lebron James is not going to retire (-). We catch up on everything we missed this weekend with Rory, Wimbledon, DeAndre Hopkins signing with the Titans, Jets Hard Knocks and we get our Championship Rings for the Waterdogs (-). Who's back of the week including Dan Snyder and Andy Dalton (-). Greg Olsen joins the show to talk about his transition to the booth, calling the Super Bowl TEU, his history with Barstool and an update on his son (-). We then do the Mt Rushmore of Everyday Villains and the lottery ball (-).

Greg Olsen on the Booth, Super Bowl Calls, and the U’s Future

Our long national nightmare is finally over. LeBron James took to the ESPYs stage to announce that he is not, in fact, retiring. It was a classic LeBron moment that felt about as surprising as a sunrise. Big Cat and PFT were quick to call out the drama of the announcement, noting that LeBron has been telegraphing his desire to play with Bronny for years.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#22899
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James' non-retirement announcement was a calculated move to dominate a slow news cycle

I think [LeBron James] planned this out just because he was like, 'You know what? I wanna make a splash at the ESPYs this year. How can I do that? Okay, I'll tease it. I'm gonna retire after getting swept by the Denver Nuggets. And then, in early July when nobody's paying attention to sports, I'm gonna dominate the news cycle.'

The take is subjective as it's an analysis of LeBron's motives, though LeBron did indeed dominate the cycle as predicted.

While LeBron stayed put, the NFL landscape shifted with DeAndre Hopkins finally finding a home in Tennessee. Big Cat was less than impressed by the choice, suggesting that the move to Nashville was a bit of a buzzkill for anyone hoping to see Hopkins chasing a ring on a contender.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#22900
Big CatBig Cat

DeAndre Hopkins chose money over winning by signing with the Titans

Way to take the air out of it. If [DeAndre Hopkins] had been added to a Chiefs and Eagles—one of these Niners—one of these teams that's competing for Super Bowl... he's going the Titans. Everyone's like, 'Okay, cool.' I guess it's good for the Titans, but I feel like the Titans are in a weird transition period right now... Money is always, I don't know what everyone else was offering him, but it's nice to say 'I want to go compete for a ring,' but if the Titans offered him 12 and everyone else was offering him five, 7 million is probably nice too.

Subjective opinion on a player's motivation.

PFT took it a step further, viewing the signing as a pointed message to the New England Patriots.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#22901
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

DeAndre Hopkins picking the Titans is a direct 'ricochet shot' at the Patriots and Mac Jones

This is an ultimate ricochet shot at the entire Patriots organization too. When those are his three criteria and he's like, 'I wanna play for a good quarterback,' and he picks Ryan Tannehill over Mac Jones.

Subjective interpretation of a player's choice.

In golf, Rory McIlroy found the winner's circle at the Scottish Open, but Hank isn't buying the momentum heading into the Open Championship. Despite Rory playing some of his best golf in years, Hank is sensing a collapse on the horizon.

Loss
Jul 17, 2023
#11686
HankHank

Rory McIlroy will miss the cut at the Open Championship because it's 'too much of a storybook ending'

I have a hot take. I think [Rory McIlroy] is gonna miss the cut. Yeah, I think everything, because the last time they played here was the last time he won a major. He's been playing good golf. He won this weekend. Everyone—it's almost too much of a storybook ending and I think he's just gonna come out and blow up.

Rory McIlroy finished T6 at the 2023 Open Championship and comfortably made the cut.

Greg Olsen on the Booth and The U

Greg Olsen joined the show at Tight End U to talk about his transition from the field to the number one booth at Fox. Calling the Super Bowl is the pinnacle of the profession, and Greg didn't shy away from the controversial holding call that effectively ended the game. He maintained his stance that the flag on James Bradberry was a tough way to conclude an all-time classic.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#11691
Greg OlsenGreg Olsen

The Super Bowl holding call on James Bradberry was a 'tick-tack' call that ruined the game's ending

I still don't think it was a great call... It just seemed so ticky-tack in the moment and it changed the way that game was viewed from a historical context. There's no question. I don't care who wins the game. I want to see what was a historically great Super Bowl have a historically great ending.

This is a subjective opinion on officiating, though widely shared by fans.

As a Miami legend, Greg is also keeping a close eye on Mario Cristobal’s attempt to bring "The U" back to its former glory. He’s a believer in Cristobal, but he’s also realistic about the current state of college football and how much the game has changed since he was running down on kickoffs with Willis McGahee and Sean Taylor.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#11692
Greg OlsenGreg Olsen

If Mario Cristobal can't turn Miami football around, it can't be done

I said this from the time he got the job. If [Mario Cristobal] can't turn Miami back into what we all remember Miami, it just can't be done. It just can't be done.

This is an opinion about Miami football's potential under Mario Cristobal. Miami went 10-3 in 2025 and made the CFP as the #10 seed, suggesting the program is trending upward but hasn't fully 'turned around' to elite status yet.

Speaking of those legendary Miami teams, the guys went down memory lane naming the first-rounders from the early 2000s squads. Greg didn't hesitate when asked if those Hurricane teams could have hung with the pros.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#22903
Greg OlsenGreg Olsen

The 2001-2002 Miami Hurricanes could have been competitive in the NFL

I mean, they're not gonna win the Super Bowl, but they'd be more competitive than some of the bottom teams that we see year in and year out at the bottom of the league. There's no question... That Nebraska team [they beat], that's the best college football team of all time.

This is a hypothetical 'what if' that can't be proven, making it subjective.

The Kelce vs. Gronk Debate

Naturally, the conversation turned to the current state of the tight end position. Billy Football tried to bring his trademark heat by questioning Travis Kelce's physicality, a take that Greg immediately dismantled with the logic of a man who actually knows ball.

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#11694
Billy FootballBilly Football

Travis Kelce 'runs soft' and doesn't run enough people over

I don't think he runs that... like he does get crazy yak, but I don't think he, like, he doesn't run anyone over... I just would like to see him do it... it comes up in the him versus Gronk debate.

This is a highly subjective and provocative take that ignores Kelce's elite efficiency in favor of a specific 'toughness' aesthetic.

While Billy wanted to see more people getting run over, Greg focused on the historical production. He admitted that while he never thought anyone would touch Tony Gonzalez’s records, Kelce is knocking on the door of the GOAT conversation.

Win
Jul 17, 2023
#11693
Greg OlsenGreg Olsen

Travis Kelce will be the GOAT tight end with one or two more productive seasons

I've said on record, if [Travis] Kelce has another even year or two like the last seven, in my mind he goes down as the best ever. I never in a million years would've thought anyone would ever catch [Tony] Gonzalez... I think Kelce's a year or two away from doing it.

Kelce had another productive season in 2023 leading to a Super Bowl win, further solidifying this argument.

Mount Rushmore of Everyday Villains

To wrap things up, the crew tackled the Mount Rushmore of Everyday Villains. We’re talking about the people who make life just a little bit worse for everyone else: people who listen to music on speaker in public, slow walkers, and package thieves. Billy and Jake went on a bit of a tear, though they nearly sabotaged themselves by initially avoiding the most obvious villain of all: traffic.

Between Greg Olsen’s insight and the boys finally getting their Waterdogs championship rings, the vibes are high as we inch closer to football season.

Just remember to eat your pizza crust so the cops don't find your DNA.

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More Takes

Void
Jul 17, 2023
#11687
Big CatBig Cat

Alcaraz's majors are 'Mickey Mouse majors' compared to Djokovic's era, but I am still an Alcaraz fan

[Djokovic] had to go against Roger [Federer] and Rafa [Nadal] and won all those. So Alcaraz is going to win Mickey Mouse majors. That's fine... I'm an Alcaraz fan now. Not as big of a Djokovic, but I'm an Alcaraz fan as well.

Subjective comparison of eras and personal fan status.
Loss
Jul 17, 2023
#22902
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers will have an incredible year with the Jets

I think Aaron Rodgers is gonna have an incredible year. I've become—the script has been flipped on me where I'm now defending Aaron Rodgers, the player, publicly and it feels dirty. But I also, I want—I don't want him to fall off when he's gone. That would suck for me. I want him to be really good.

Rodgers suffered a season-ending injury four snaps into his Jets debut.
Void
Jul 17, 2023
#11688
Billy FootballBilly Football

Aaron Rodgers is immune to the New York media circus

Aaron Rodgers is immune to the media circus. He's got natural immunity to the New York media.

While subjective, Rodgers' first year in NY was defined by an early injury and subsequent weird media appearances (Pat McAfee show), rather than being 'broken' by NY tabloids.
Loss
Jul 17, 2023
#11689
Billy FootballBilly Football

Zach Wilson is still the future of the Jets

I still think that [Zach Wilson] has the physical capabilities to be, you know, an amazing Mahomes quarterback. The man can make any throw on the field. I mean, his head, you know, he's young. He's confused... but the man can make some amazing throws and I hope Aaron Rodgers gets his head right.

Zach Wilson was traded to the Broncos in 2024 after another poor season, proving he was not the future for the Jets.
Loss
Jul 17, 2023·Who's Back
#11690
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

There is a 25% chance Dan Snyder does not sell the Commanders

I'm realizing that there's probably like a 25% possibility that he does stick around for the rest of my life. Owns the team... and I'll probably die before he does.

The sale of the Commanders to the Josh Harris group was finalized just days after this episode on July 20, 2023.
Void
Jul 17, 2023
#22904
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 'Open Championship' should be referred to as the 'British Open'

Fuck the Open Championship. The British Open.

Matter of terminology preference.

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