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JJ Watt, Lebron Breaks Kareem’s Record, Max Is Going To The Super Bowl + Guys On Chicks

Wednesday, February 8, 202313 takes

Lebron breaks Kareem’s record and we discuss why we actually deserve credit (-). Super Bowl Media Day and Matt Nagy triggered Big Cat (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (-). JJ Watt joins us in our C4 Studio to talk about his retirement, career, uhhh hey JJ, what makes a great D-Lineman great and tons more (-). We finish with guys on chicks Super Bowl edition (-).

JJ Watt on Retirement, LeBron's Record, and Max's $19k Super Bowl Ticket

We are officially in the thick of Super Bowl week in Arizona, and Big Cat and PFT are coming to you live from the C4 studio. Between Max's escalating heart rate over the Eagles and the news of LeBron James closing in on Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's scoring title, there was plenty to cover before getting to the main event: the first post-retirement interview with future Hall of Famer JJ Watt.

LeBron's Record and the Stat Compiler Label

LeBron James is on the verge of history, but the guys aren't exactly ready to hand over the GOAT crown. PFT was quick to point out that while the total points are impressive, there's a certain level of longevity and volume that colors the achievement.

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Feb 8, 2023
#7459
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LeBron James is the greatest stat compiler of all time

Great job, LeBron. I'm happy for you. You know LeBron, he's had quite a week... kind of a ball hog. But that's fine. You, you are a stat compiler. You're the greatest stat compiler of all time.

While LeBron has played the most games and scored the most points, calling him 'just' a compiler is a subjective framing used to diminish his legacy in the GOAT debate.

Big Cat, ever the historian and hater of missed opportunities for drama, suggested that LeBron should have manipulated the schedule to make the moment even more poetic by waiting for a specific opponent.

Loss
Feb 8, 2023
#7460
Big CatBig Cat

If LeBron James is a true historian, he will wait to break the scoring record against the Bucks

The only thing he could say is if LeBron is a true historian of the game, he would wait to break it against the Bucks. The only other team that Kareem played for. So Lakers bucks playing on Thursday night.

LeBron broke the record against the Oklahoma City Thunder on February 7, 2023, rather than waiting for the Bucks game.

Not to be outdone by current history, PFT looked toward the future of the league with a massive projection for the next big thing coming from France.

Open
Feb 8, 2023
#7461
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Victor Wembanyama will be better than LeBron James was at his peak

We actually, we should get credit in the media because like we were so right about LeBron James we called it. And guess what I'm calling it right now? Wembanyama is gonna be great. Yeah. He's gonna be, he's gonna even be better than LeBron at his peaks.

Wembanyama has had a historic rookie season, but surpassing LeBron James' absolute peak is a long-term projection that remains pending.

Hot Seat, Cool Throne, and a $19,000 Purchase

Hot Seat/Cool Throne hit on everything from Aaron Rodgers’ impending "darkness retreat" to Tom Brady’s gap year. Big Cat isn't buying the idea that TB12 is actually done with the gridiron just yet, especially with the Fox broadcasting gig being pushed back a year.

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Big CatBig Cat

Tom Brady is not actually retired

This was my hot seat because I actually think it's hot seat. The Tom Brady retirement. He's not, he's spending an entire year off. He's basically admitting that he's not gonna start broadcasting games till 2024. He's not retired... This feels like he's just leaving the door a little bit open.

Tom Brady did not return to the NFL and transitioned to his broadcasting role as planned in 2024.

Meanwhile, the Rodgers saga continues to be the most Rodgers thing ever. PFT is confident that no amount of sensory deprivation will make a man walk away from a fifty-million-dollar paycheck.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers will play in the NFL in 2023 for $50 million despite his 'darkness retreat'

I can save you. You don't have to have your brain exert the chemical that's reserved for you when you die to pacify you... to know that Yes, you do want to play football for one more year for 50 million.

Aaron Rodgers did return to play in 2023, though he was traded to the New York Jets and suffered a season-ending injury in Week 1.

Speaking of money, Big Cat officially pulled the trigger on Super Bowl tickets for Max and Memes. The total damage? A cool $18,960. Max is currently alternating between pure confidence and the realization that Nick Sirianni is facing a game he simply cannot afford to drop.

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Feb 8, 2023
#7462
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Super Bowl is a 'can't lose' game for Nick Sirianni, not a 'must win'

I disagree. You think it's can't lose? They're Yeah, it's a can't lose. Because if you, if you lose, then what? ... If you're Nick Sirianni, you lose the Super Bowl, you're gonna be known as Super Bowl losing head coach. You can't, you cannot lose that game if you're Nick Sirianni.

Sirianni did lose the game and remained the coach, though he did technically become a 'Super Bowl losing head coach'.

JJ Watt in Studio

The highlight of the show was JJ Watt joining Big Cat and PFT for an hour-long breakdown of his career and his new life as a retiree. After years of the "Uh Oh, Hey JJ" bit and eventually becoming a friend of the program, it felt like a full-circle moment. PFT led the introduction with a backhanded compliment that only he could pull off.

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Feb 8, 2023
#23057
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

JJ Watt is a significantly better football player than he is a person

A lot of people will say like, JJ Watt great player, all-time player, even better person. That's bullshit. You're a way better football player than you are a person and you're a pretty good person.

This is a subjective comparison between athletic peak and personal character.

JJ was incredibly candid about his peak years in Houston. While some legends are defined by how long they played, JJ knows that at his absolute summit, there wasn't a single person on the planet who could block him.

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Feb 8, 2023
#7465
JJ WattJJ Watt

I'm the greatest defender ever for a single season or game

For one single game? Or are you talking about for one single season that which player would you want? Because that's different. I mean, I'm, I'm never gonna argue for the longevity of my career... But for one season or one game, I, I'll, I'll put myself in that argument.

Watt won 3 DPOY awards in 4 years; statistically, his 2014 season is widely considered one of the best in NFL history.

He gave some serious flowers to the offensive linemen who actually gave him trouble, specifically highlighting the "vet savvy" of Trent Williams.

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Feb 8, 2023
#23058
JJ WattJJ Watt

Trent Williams is the best at using a defender's momentum and 'vet savvy' against them

One of the guys that does that [using tricks] very well, as Trent Williams. Trent does, he has some tricks and, and things to his game that are just very, very smart, very vet savvy... [he'll] just knock your hands down and you'll fall flat on your face.

Subjective opinion from an elite contemporary player.

We also got some Watt family updates, including JJ’s admission that his younger brother might actually have the higher ceiling when it's all said and done.

Open
Feb 8, 2023
#7466
JJ WattJJ Watt

T.J. Watt will be a better player than me if he stays healthy

If he stays healthy and, and I, I hope he stays healthy and I hope he does. He'll break every record I got and he'll absolutely be a better player than me. There's no doubt for a single season, for a single, like being able to do everything. I I I won't give up that title.

T.J. Watt has already won a DPOY and holds elite sack numbers, but JJ's 20.5 sack seasons and multiple DPOY awards set a very high bar.

As a Wisconsin legend, JJ is fully on board with the new era in Madison. He and Big Cat are already dreaming of what the Badgers can accomplish under new leadership.

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Feb 8, 2023
#7467
JJ WattJJ Watt

Luke Fickell is building a monster at the University of Wisconsin

Luke Fickell building a monster. Looking forward to that. ... We have more quarterbacks in the room now than we've had our entire history ever. I don't understand. I have no clue what's going on.

Luke Fickell did not build a 'monster' at Wisconsin. The Badgers went 4-8 in 2025, their worst season under Fickell, with blowout losses to Iowa (37-0) and Ohio State (34-0).

Finally, with the 2028 Hall of Fame class already looking crowded, JJ is already thinking about the logistics of the induction ceremony. He’s happy to let Brady have the spotlight, as long as he doesn't have to follow him to the podium.

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Feb 8, 2023
#23056
JJ WattJJ Watt

The Hall of Fame should give me a speaking slot before Tom Brady so I don't have to follow him

I don't want the last speech. Oh, have no interest in the last speech. Okay. So see, I can, like, I can just fluff it up for Tom and let him hit it out of the park. I can give him all like the, the praise and everything and then just let him maybe say like a quick sentence about me before he gets into Yeah. Thanking everybody.

This is a subjective preference about event scheduling.

If the Eagles lose on Sunday, we might need to check on Max's $19,000 worth of emotional stability.

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Win
Feb 8, 2023
#23059
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Commanders' home field at FedEx Field is responsible for player injuries and is cursed

I'd like to get off that field. Everybody's been hurt on that field. Yeah. Oh. I mean, and just like as a guy who's played in every, every stadium... That place could use upgrade.

FedEx Field has a long-standing reputation for poor field conditions and high injury rates.

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