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Mike Florio And Week 2 Of The NFL

Monday, September 17, 201813 takes

Week 2 of the NFL and the Fastest 2 minutes ( - ). All the kickers sucked at the same time. Patrick Mahomes is electric ( - ). Vontae Davis retired at halftime ( - ). Are we really doing this Ryan Fitzpatrick thing? The Bills and Cardinals suck and what's wrong with the Steelers ( - ). Football guy of the week led by Coach O being the best Coach ever ( - ). Who's back of the week including Suicidal Big Cat because the Badgers suck again ( - ). Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joins the show to talk about Josh Gordon, Ryan Fitzpatrick starting a QB controversy in Tampa Bay, and who is on the hot seat after Week 2 ( - ). Segments include Great Visual for Skip Bayless, Uhhh Ya Think for Kevin Durant, and Monday Readings "Nick Saban Is Overrated".

Recap

Loss
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Todd Bowles is a top-ten NFL coach

I still think that Todd Bowles is a top-ten coach. Everybody knows the Dolphins always play the Jets tough.

Bowles was fired by the Jets at the end of the 2018 season following a 4-12 record. He later found success as a DC and HC elsewhere, but at the time of the take, it was highly controversial and ultimately wrong regarding his Jets tenure.
Win
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots are going to trade for Josh Gordon

If you're anything like me, your first reaction [to the Josh Gordon news] was the fucking Patriots are going to get him.

The Patriots did indeed trade for Josh Gordon on September 17, 2018, shortly after this episode aired.
Push
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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Big CatBig Cat

The Buccaneers cannot sit Ryan Fitzpatrick if he wins in Week 3

Ryan Fitzpatrick, if he wins week three, how can they sit him? I don't know what's going on with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but I am ready, much like Case Keenum last year where we had to ask ourselves many times... Ryan Fitzpatrick, if he wins week three, how can they sit him?

Fitzpatrick did start Week 4 even when Winston returned, but he was eventually benched for Winston later in the season after his performance cooled off.
Win
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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HankHank

Patriots September losses never matter

The Patriots always lose these games in September. It never matters. I got another stat from this from Tim Whelan on Twitter. So the last three years in which the Patriots reached the Super Bowl, they lost by double digits within the first four weeks.

The Patriots did indeed go on to win the Super Bowl this season (LIII) after a slow start, validating the 'September doesn't matter' mantra.
Win
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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Big CatBig Cat

Bears vs. Seahawks is the most important game in franchise history

I think the Bears, as I said, not me overreacting to the loss against the Packers. I called it the most important game in franchise history. And as such, I think they will win.

The Bears won 24-17. While not literally the most important game in history, they did win.
Loss
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Chris Carson will run for a lot of yards against the Bears

I think the Bears are going to win. I'm eager to see [Chris Carson] run for a shitload of yards, as I predicted.

Chris Carson had only 24 rushing yards on 6 carries in that game. He did not run for a 'shitload' of yards.

Who Is Back

Loss
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018·Who's Back
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Roger Goodell is making kickers miss to justify getting rid of ties

We had a theory last year... that Roger Goodell was trying to save football or at least appear like he was the good guy by having all of his kickers miss these easy field goals so that he could come in and change the rules and get rid of ties altogether.

Hot TakeFootballFireSarcastic
Purely satirical conspiracy. The NFL did not get rid of ties; in fact, there was another tie shortly after this discussion.
Win
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018·Who's Back
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Big CatBig Cat

Wisconsin is out of the national title race after losing to BYU

The one redeeming quality about Wisconsin Badger football fans is we are realists to a fault. I never, we're not, we're out of the national, you know. It's not going to happen. We could win every game and it still wouldn't happen. You can't lose as 23 and a half point favorites.

Wisconsin finished the season 8-5 and was nowhere near the playoff, so Big Cat was correct to write them off.

Interview

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Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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Mike FlorioMike Florio

Josh Gordon will be traded on Monday

I think [Josh Gordon] is going to be traded at some point on Monday. And then the Browns wash their hands of him.

Josh Gordon was indeed traded to the Patriots on that Monday, September 17, 2018.
Win
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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Mike FlorioMike Florio

Josh Gordon's likely landing spots are the Seahawks, Patriots, or 49ers

I think that Seattle would be one of the teams... I think the Patriots would have to be considered... I'd say Seahawks, Patriots, 49ers would be the three teams I'd watch.

Gordon was traded to the Patriots, which was one of Florio's top three.
Loss
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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Mike FlorioMike Florio

The NFL should treat QBs like kickers and prohibit all contact after the ball is out

Just treat the quarterback like a punter or a kicker. Once the ball's out, you can't touch him. Then there's no ambiguity... if you don't touch the ball and the ball's out and you hit the quarterback, it's a foul just like it is for a punter and a kicker.

The NFL never adopted this rule; they instead clarified and eventually eased off on the frequency of the body weight calls.
Loss
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018
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Mike FlorioMike Florio

Todd Haley will take over for Hue Jackson at some point this season

I think Todd Haley is the guy that ends up taking over at some point for the rest of the season, at some point this year [in Cleveland].

Hue Jackson was fired on October 29, but Gregg Williams was named interim head coach, not Todd Haley. Haley was also fired on the same day.

Monday Reading

Loss
Take Slip·Sep 17, 2018·Monday Reading
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nick Saban is an underachiever because he only wins a title every other year

Nick Saban's an underachiever... with this in mind, five national titles really does not seem like enough in an 11-year period. If Saban were as good at being a head coach as he is at recruiting, Alabama would have won the national title on a yearly basis. But he isn't.

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Saban is widely considered the GOAT of college football. Suggesting that winning 'only' 5 titles in 11 years is underachieving is a comedic hot take.