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NBA Champ Shawn Marion + We're Time Traveling

Monday, April 8, 201916 takes

PFT is in Hong Kong, Big Cat and Hank are in Minneapolis, welcome to the time traveling episode of Pardon My Take ( - ). Recapping the Final Four, Auburns heartbreak, Kirk Cousins speech, and how to make Monday night's game more interesting ( - ). PFT recaps his trip to Hong Kong and the Rugby 7's ( - ). Who's back of the week ( - ). 4X NBA All Star and NBA Champion Shawn Marion joins the show to talk about his career in the league, his favorite teammate, the title run with Dirk, the 7 seconds or less Suns, and his shot being ugly as hell ( - ). Segments include PR 101 for Aaron Rodgers, Roasting the new Jets Jerseys, way to stay relevant baseball, PFT hot in the streets, and Monday Reading - Hank's resume.

Shawn Marion on Suns' '7 Seconds or Less' and Final Four Chaos

The pod is coming to you from the future and the past simultaneously as PFT travels back from Hong Kong while Big Cat and Hank hold things down in Minneapolis. The weekend was dominated by a Final Four that featured the first-ever stadium booze sales, some questionable officiating, and an Auburn loss that will haunt the Plains for a generation.

Big Cat was in the building for the Virginia-Auburn finish and didn't hold back on the brutal nature of the Tigers' exit. While Auburn fans were melting down over a missed double-dribble call, Big Cat pointed out that letting Kyle Guy step to the line for three free throws is a nightmare scenario.

Void
Apr 8, 2019
#14691
Big CatBig Cat

Auburn's loss to Virginia is the worst possible way to lose a Final Four game

Auburn, I would say that might be the worst possible way to lose a Final Four game of all time... hitting three free throws in that situation, that's the shit you do in your backyard, and you miss two out of three, and you're like, all right, redo. He was money on all three. And Auburn, I would say that might be the worst possible way to lose a Final Four game of all time.

While subjective, it remains one of the most debated and heartbreaking finishes in Final Four history.

PFT already has his eyes on the awards ceremony, specifically the one involving Jim Nance and a very specific piece of neckwear.

Loss
Apr 8, 2019
#14693
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kyle Guy is making a strong case for the Jim Nance Tie Player of the Year

He is making a hard case for the Jim Nance tie player of the year. I think if it's not Kyle Guy, I think even if UVA loses the national championship, Jim Nance is going to find a way to get him that tie.

Jim Nance did not give Kyle Guy his tie; he gave it to Jarrett Culver after the championship game.

While the internet was busy dissecting every frame of Ty Jerome’s handle, Big Cat isn't interested in the 'what ifs' that come with refereeing blunders. He's ready to move on, even if Bruce Pearl isn't.

Void
Apr 8, 2019
#20887
Big CatBig Cat

You can't play the 'sliding doors' game with officiating mistakes in a loss

Auburn has a terrible loss but at the end of the day it's like that's kind of how it goes. Like you can't play sliding doors, you can't be like, well this call should have gone another way and it would have changed everything.

This is a philosophical opinion about sports fandom and logic.

The Matrix in Studio

NBA Champion and 4-time All-Star Shawn Marion joined the show to discuss his legendary career. He didn't hold back on the Suns' 'Seven Seconds or Less' era, his relationship with Dirk Nowitzki, and the constant criticism of his unique shooting form. When the guys asked if any coach ever tried to fix his shot, Trix shut that down immediately.

Void
Apr 8, 2019
#20889
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

I was the best shooter in the NBA and my form didn't need fixing because I bust everybody's ass

I would beat the shit out of everybody. You know what I'm saying? I mean, I would bust everybody ass... [Coaches] couldn't shoot either. What the fuck are you going to tell me what to do?

Subjective claim of dominance, though his stats as a career 33% 3pt shooter are respectable but not elite.

Marion also provided some perspective on the Suns' mid-2000s run, specifically pushing back on the narrative that they didn't care about the defensive end of the floor. He argued that their offensive pace simply made their defensive numbers look worse than the actual effort.

Push
Apr 8, 2019
#14705
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

The 'Seven Seconds or Less' Suns actually played good defense but were overshadowed by their scoring

We did play defense. That's the sad [part]. It got overshadowed because we were scoring so much... I think especially some guys play horrible individual defenders but great team defenders.

The 2004-05 Suns were 17th in defensive rating; the 2006-07 team was 13th. They weren't elite, but they weren't the worst in the league.

Reflecting on his championship with the Mavericks, Marion gave flowers to Dirk for his effort on the defensive end during that 2011 run. He also touched on playing with LeBron James in Cleveland, offering a candid critique of the King’s on-court leadership style.

Void
Apr 8, 2019
#14709
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

LeBron James shows his teammates up too much on the court

I think he shows his teammates up a little bit too much on the court. You know, and, you know, that's just part of him. I mean, you know, he kind of feel like he earned that. And I mean, that's him... but that's one of the things I don't like he does.

This is a subjective observation from a former teammate.

Who’s Back and Monday Reading

Who's Back featured a heated debate over Paul Pierce’s legacy after he claimed he had a better career than Dwyane Wade. Big Cat thinks The Truth is playing a dangerous game with his own reputation by inviting the comparisons.

Win
Apr 8, 2019·Who's Back
#14699
Big CatBig Cat

Paul Pierce is making himself look overrated by actively claiming he's better than Dwyane Wade

Paul Pierce made the ultimate error where Paul Pierce is the perfect guy that if he just kind of stays under the radar, everyone will say, hey, you know who's better than people give him credit for? Paul Pierce. But when he says he's like actively says he's better than someone, people will roast him... now you've done the reverse. And everyone's like, Paul Pierce was overrated.

This prediction about public perception proved true, as Pierce was widely mocked for years following the 'better than Wade' and 'wheelchair game' discussions.

Hank’s 'Who’s Back' was Country Trap, as Lil Nas X continues his absolute dominance of the charts with "Old Town Road."

Win
Apr 8, 2019·Who's Back
#14703
HankHank

Country Trap is back and here to stay

Country Trap is back and it's going to stay around for a while... All I'm saying is we talked about it on the show and now [Lil Nas X] is number one and number three on the charts.

Lil Nas X became a global superstar and 'Old Town Road' broke the record for most weeks at number one on the Billboard Hot 100.

The show wrapped with a legendary Monday Reading: Hank's original cover letter to Barstool Sports. It’s a masterpiece of phonetic spelling and over-promising, featuring the word "guarantee" spelled G-A-R-U-N-T-E-E in all caps. It’s a reminder that if you’re willing to work for free and claim you own a 16-foot camera crane, you too can eventually become a super producer.

Good luck to Texas Tech tonight, mostly because Big Cat’s brain is firing on all cylinders thanks to a strawberry banana Body Armor.

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Void
Apr 8, 2019
#14695
Big CatBig Cat

Kirk Cousins is an average quarterback who doesn't motivate anyone

Kirk Cousins also gave the pregame speech which is perfectly Kirk Cousins. It was, it didn't motivate a single person and I honestly don't think like Michigan State like didn't lose the game as much as Texas Tech was just so fucking good.

Michigan State did lose the game following the speech, and Cousins' reputation as a mid-tier starter persisted for years.
Loss
Apr 8, 2019
#14697
Big CatBig Cat

Texas Tech will win the National Championship

I think Texas Tech is going to win... I think Texas Tech is going to win, and that's because I drank my strawberry banana [Body Armor] right when I woke up, so my brain is firing on all cylinders.

Virginia beat Texas Tech 85-77 in overtime in the championship game.
Win
Apr 8, 2019
#20888
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

The NBL is a legitimate professional league and its players could hold their own in the NBA

Don't slack on the NBL. I think them guys are professionals... there are some guys that can go out there and probably hold their own in the NBA with no problems at all.

The NBL has produced multiple NBA stars like LaMelo Ball and Josh Giddey since this interview.
Void
Apr 8, 2019
#14706
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

The 2006 Suns were better than the 2007 team that everyone thinks should have won the title

Everybody speculates thinking [2007] was the year we should have won the championship... I don't. [The year before that] was better... I was physically, mentally drained because I was going from Sam Cassell to Elden Brand and Chris Kaman. From Kobe to Lamar to Ron Artest... Then I had to go against Dirk. My body was shut. I was tired. I was dead tired.

This is a former player's personal assessment of his own team's strength and fatigue levels.
Void
Apr 8, 2019
#20890
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

Dirk Nowitzki was actually a great defender during the Mavericks' 2011 championship run

Dirk was actually a great defender for us in the championship run. People like, you know, I ain't, but like I said, it's not all about individual defense, but team defense. He was amazing.

This is a tactical evaluation by a teammate.
Void
Apr 8, 2019
#20891
Shawn MarionShawn Marion

LeBron James isn't a bad teammate, but he does show his teammates up too much on the court

He's not a bad teammate... but I'm just going to be real candid and honest, though. I think he shows his teammates up a little bit too much on the court. You know, and, you know, that's just part of him.

Subjective assessment of leadership style.
Void
Apr 8, 2019
#14713
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Jets should release new, shittier uniforms every year to match the state of the franchise

The Jets should almost come out with new shittier versions of their uniform every year because that goes right along with the state of the franchise. And it's probably if you can get the people talking about how bad your uniforms are, that's a great distraction for the Jets.

This is a comedic recommendation, not a verifiable claim.
Loss
Apr 8, 2019
#14710
Big CatBig Cat

The Steelers will be better without Antonio Brown due to addition by subtraction

I'm at the point where I'm going full-on addition by subtraction. The Steelers are going to be better without Antonio Brown.

The Steelers went 8-8 in 2019 without AB (and without Big Ben for most of it), a slight regression from 9-6-1 in 2018.

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