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NBA Draft With Ryen Russillo, Mt Rushmore Of Hosses + Listener FAQ’s

Wednesday, June 21, 202317 takes

We’ve reached summer and the dead part of the sports calendar. We play a new game called react to the top 8 headlines on ESPN (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including the Titanic Sub, Jello Shots in Omaha and Zion Williamson maybe catching a win (-). Mt Rushmore of Hosses (-). Ryen Russillo joins the show to talk NBA Draft, player comps, who needs more dawgs and worst takes ever (-). We finish with listener FAQ’s and a special question from Will Levis (-).

Ryen Russillo on the NBA Draft, Mt. Rushmore of Hosses, and the Titans' Will Levis

Summer has officially arrived, and while the sports calendar might look a little light, the energy in the brand new Barstool Nashville bar was anything but. Big Cat and PFT Commenter kicked things off by navigating the wasteland of June sports headlines, which mostly consisted of Kyle Kuzma hitting free agency and the Yankees continues struggles. Big Cat remains convinced that the only reason Brian Cashman still has a office in the Bronx is his surname.

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Big CatBig Cat

Brian Cashman would have been fired if his name wasn't Brian Cashman

If Brian Cashman's name wasn't Brian Cashman, he would've been fired already. Right. Brian Cashman's a powerful name. ... I I'm like convinced that like if you're, if you're a Stein runner, you hire Brian Cashman. He's like, well, yeah, he's the cash man. That's what we do here.

This is a subjective opinion on front office management and brand value.

Speaking of employment opportunities, PFT made it clear he isn't looking to join the Wizards' rebuild anytime soon, even for a massive payday. Big Cat, however, is willing to be the ultimate team player for the right price in Phoenix.

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Big CatBig Cat

I would play for the Suns for $1 million to help their salary cap

I already said that I would play for the Sons for $1 [million]. Cause they need, they need cheap rosters. Yeah. 1 million. 1 million.

Subjective claim about his own willingness to play.

Submarines and Stiff Arms

Hot Seat/Cool Throne took a dark turn as the guys addressed the missing Titanic submarine. While the internet held its breath for an oxygen countdown, Big Cat wasn't buying the miracle rescue narrative, noting that an instant structural failure was the more likely (and merciful) outcome. PFT has decided his relationship with the deep blue is officially over, suggesting a very strict limit on how far any sane person should wade into the water.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

You shouldn't mess with the ocean at all; stay 20 feet from the beach

Just don't fuck with the ocean. ... In general, stay away from more than like 20 feet into the ocean. The beach is fine. Yeah. Beach is good. Everything else bad.

A lifestyle/safety opinion that isn't really verifiable.

On a lighter note, the guys revisited the viral clip of Hank absolutely erasing Max with a stiff arm during their rugby trip. Max tried to claim it was a "bad angle" and that he was just trying to be a good teammate by not laying Hank out, but the tape doesn't lie. Hank has reached peak Alpha status, at least until he gets back in a room with Jake Marsh. Big Cat also took some time to address the Packers' new signal caller, Jordan Love, who made the mistake of recorded a Father's Day shoutout for Bears fans.

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Big CatBig Cat

Jordan Love made a massive mistake by making a Father's Day video for Bears fans

My Hot Seat is Packers fans trying to get me to somehow admit that I was wrong about the Jordan Love video. ... Aaron Rodgers never would've done that. You gotta say no. ... As much as I hate Aaron Rodgers, he tortured me, he's fucking owned me... he respected the rivalry. He never gave an inch. Jordan Love you gave an inch. I'm gonna take that inch.

This is a subjective take on rivalry etiquette, though Love did go on to beat the Bears in his first start of the season, validating the 'Father' claim literally.

Mt. Rushmore of Hosses

This was one of the more contentious Mt. Rushmores in recent memory, mostly because the definition of a "Hoss" is apparently in the eye of the beholder. Hank and Max tried to claim Genghis Khan was a Hoss, which led to a breakdown of historical stature and fur coats. PFT, meanwhile, wanted to stick to the scientific data when it comes to identifying a true big man.

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Jun 21, 2023·Mt. Rushmore
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

To be a true 'Hoss,' you should be clinically obese by BMI standards

I would say that yes. To be a Hoss you should be overweight. ... You should be clinically obese by BMI. ... Your BMI should be outta whack. ... Hosses are more laid back. They lumber.

Subjective definition of a slang term.

Big Cat and PFT cleaned up with picks like John Daly, John Madden, and Bartolo Colon. It turns out the key to being a Hoss is a combination of lumbering movement, a questionable BMI, and the ability to fill out a polo shirt to its absolute limit.

Ryen Russillo’s Draft Board

Draft expert Ryen Russillo joined the show to provide the tape-grinder perspective on the upcoming NBA Draft. The conversation centered heavily on Victor Wembanyama, the "alien" prospect who has the entire league rethinking their future. While the hype is astronomical, Russillo is tempering expectations slightly when comparing him to the greatest prospects ever, specifically citing the physical toll of being that tall.

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Jun 21, 2023
#6002
Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

Wembanyama is not as good a prospect as LeBron was because of injury risk

Anybody who says [Wembanyama] is the best, like he's better than LeBron as a prospect, I would completely disagree just because LeBron body-wise was NBA ready. ... He's going to get hurt. It would be shocking if he doesn't have somebody roll into his legs at some point. ... I just don't think the human body is supposed to move like a created player in an NBA video game.

Wembanyama had a historic rookie season with relatively few injuries, but long-term durability is still pending.

Russillo noted that the list of players a GM would actually keep over the chance to draft Wemby is incredibly short.

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Jun 21, 2023
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Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

Only Jokic, Luka, and Giannis are untradeable for the Wembanyama pick

Jokic, you'd hang up. Luka, you'd hang up. Giannis, you'd hang up. Embiid, you'd trade him. Tatum probably [trade him]. Booker... the list is probably like three guys. ... Normally I'd go, well wait, I don't wanna trade a guy who I know has already done it for somebody that I've never seen actually do it. But that's how special Victor is.

Subjective trade value assessment by an expert.

Beyond the #1 pick, the guys looked for the "dogs" in the class. Russillo highlighted Cam Whitmore as a high-energy bulldozer and James Naji as a raw physical marvel who could disrupt games just by stepping onto the floor.

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Jun 21, 2023
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Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

Cam Whitmore is the #1 'dog' in the draft class

Cam Whitmore is definitely on that list. Maybe number one overall the Villanova freshman. Watching him play is like every time he gets the ball he is going left and he beats everybody every single time. ... He went hit him so strong. ... This guy's at level 11 energy this early into the game.

Whitmore fell to #20 in the draft but showed high energy in his limited rookie minutes.
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Jun 21, 2023
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Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

James Naji's wingspan and energy make him a legitimate NBA rotation prospect

James Naji... His wingspan however is seven seven and the way, like as soon as he checks in the game... it would be kind of like shit he's in. ... He's very raw, but as soon as he checks in the game, things are just different and it's because of his energy, his size, his strength, and I think he actually has a chance to make a roster here.

Naji was drafted 31st overall by the Hornets in 2023 but remained overseas for the 2023-24 season.

The Future of PMT

To wrap things up, Titans quarterback and friend of the program Will Levis stopped by the Nashville bar to hang out and ask a guest FAQ. He wanted to know what the long-term plan is for the show and if the guys see themselves doing this forever. Big Cat gave a surprisingly candid answer about the shelf life of the program and when they might finally hang up the whistles.

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Jun 21, 2023
#6008
Big CatBig Cat

Pardon My Take will likely end in 5 to 7 years

I would like to do this show for as long as we are still good at it. I could envision in my perfect brain five to seven years from now, we're like, 'Hey, we're really good, but you know, maybe we're fading a little.' And then we walk out on top. ... Once we get to like mid forties... it'll be like a reassessment.

Future prediction about the show's duration.

Whether the show ends in five years or fifty, PFT is committed to the bit until the very end, hopefully while mid-sentence on a historical reference.

If you see a girl with a shattered iPhone screen, just know you're in for a wild night and a very complicated morning.

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More Takes

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I would not play for the Wizards right now even for $5 million a year

Honestly, would you play for the Wizards if it was 5 million a year? ... I would not. In five years' time, I would love to play for the Wizards, but right now I'm declining.

A subjective hypothetical claim.
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HankHank

Wes Anderson is a boring filmmaker

My Hot Seat is Wes Anderson, the filmmaker. ... I think he's boring. Does anybody else think he's boring? ... They're all kind of one movie. ... It's very filmmaker move to come out and be like, he refuses, he's disgusted at the thought of people even trying to do what he does.

Film criticism is subjective.
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Big CatBig Cat

The passengers on the missing Titanic submarine are likely already dead

They're dead. This is one of those situations that it's captivated the internet because they keep being like, they have 50 hours of oxygen... they died. It's probably better that they died almost instantly. I would imagine they did. You don't, something bad happened and the sub broke and they died.

It was later confirmed that the Titan sub suffered a catastrophic implosion on the day it went missing, killing all aboard instantly.
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Big CatBig Cat

Searching through a golfer's old Twitter likes after they win is 'loser energy'

Tremendous loser behavior by anyone who does this. ... I don't care what side politics you're on If you see someone have the greatest moment of their life and you immediately, like, let's go through his likes and try to figure out what he liked on Twitter. That's loser energy.

A subjective evaluation of social behavior.
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Jun 21, 2023
#6004
Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

Scoot Henderson is the 'dog' version of Chris Paul

I know you guys are gonna love my Scoot Chris Paul comp. Because, you know, we're talking about all first team all dog guys. ... Scoot was like one of the few guys that was like, I'm gonna go at [Wembanyama]. Like he had that mentality and it worked a few times.

Player comparisons are subjective, but Henderson's rookie year was statistically much worse than Paul's.
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Jun 21, 2023
#29311
Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

I like Olivier-Maxence Prosper and Maxwell Lewis as sleepers in the Draft

I'm gonna give you two Olivier-Maxence Prosper. The kid from Montreal played at Marquette. I like him. And I also like the kid from Pepperdine, Maxwell Lewis who's probably like late first, early second. ... Prosper, he's just so intense that I, I have a hard time believing like that kind of guy... you actually got somebody who's getting a second and third contract here.

Prosper (24th) and Lewis (40th) both made NBA rosters in 2023. Their 'second and third contract' longevity is still pending.
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Jun 21, 2023
#6006
Ryen RussilloRyen Russillo

Brandon Miller's involvement in the Alabama shooting won't affect his draft stock

I think there's concern up until they watch the tape, you know, to be realistic about it. ... I just haven't heard anybody say because not that many teams are even in the mix. ... I think we all know with sports... it felt like it kind of went away a little bit too. ... His shot making at that size and what you think you'd be able to do defensively... he's exactly what you want in today's NBA.

Brandon Miller was drafted #2 overall by the Charlotte Hornets, confirming that his draft stock remained elite.

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