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NFL Week 12 Recap + Sean Salisbury

Monday, November 26, 201825 takes

NFL Week 12 fastest 2 minutes ( - ). Breaking down all the Football we watched the last 5 games. The Browns are in the hunt, Big Ben had a classic Big Ben game, Hue Jackson remains a doofus, the NFC East is heating up and Chase Daniel is the perfect backup QB ( - ). Done Chain update and is Jim Harbaugh on the hot seat ( - ). Whos back of the week ( - ). Sean Salisbury joins the show to talk about the Texans, Baker Mayfield being a grown ass man, what's wrong with USC, and who we has making the CFB playoffs ( - ). Segments include Football Guy of the Week, Stay Woke the Dwight Howard thing doesn't make sense, Humans vs the Sun, Lowman Trophy update, and Embrace Debate.

Sean Salisbury on Texans' Hopes, Baker’s Swagger, and the QB Hierarchy

We are officially back from Thanksgiving break, and our eyes are bleeding from the sheer volume of football consumed over the last five days. Between seven-overtime college marathons and a Week 12 slate that gave us some clarity in the NFC East, there’s a lot to clean up. The biggest news might be the official funeral for the Green Bay Packers, who looked absolutely disinterested in their loss to the Vikings.

Win
Nov 26, 2018
#7184
Big CatBig Cat

The Green Bay Packers are officially dead

The Packers are finally officially dead. They actually look like they don't want to play anymore... It's just over.

The Packers finished 6-9-1 and missed the playoffs in 2018, confirming they were indeed 'dead' for the season.

Big Cat and PFT spent some time trying to diagnose what’s wrong in Lambeau. While Aaron Rodgers is busy ignoring his family on Twitter, Mike McCarthy seems to be fighting a personal war against the analytics community.

Void
Nov 26, 2018
#7185
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike McCarthy intentionally calls bad 4th down plays to spite statisticians

He fucking hates those people that tell him that [to go for it on 4th down]. So he's like fine, you know what, I'll do it. All right, we'll see how it works. And then he kind of intentionally calls the worst part possible so it gets blown up so he can be like, see, I told you. It doesn't work.

While funny and plausible in the context of PMT humor, it's a satirical interpretation of poor coaching and can't be proven.

## The Huper Bowl and the "In The Hunt" Graphic The Cleveland Browns finally snapped their road losing streak against the Bengals, and the visual of the game wasn't just David Njoku being carried into the end zone like a groom at a Jewish wedding. It was the icy reunion between Baker Mayfield and Hue Jackson. Baker made it very clear he wasn't interested in a post-game hug with the coach who jumped ship to a division rival immediately after being fired.

Big Cat was mostly offended that Marvin Lewis let the "Dumb and Dumber" photo op happen on his own sideline.

Win
Nov 26, 2018
#7186
Big CatBig Cat

Marvin Lewis should be fired solely for letting the photo of him and Hue Jackson exist

Easily the dumbest decision that Marvin Lewis has ever made as a head coach was letting Hugh Jackson stand on the sidelines against the Browns because that one single picture... Everyone took that picture and was like, dumb and dumber, look at these two fucking idiots. You have to be smarter to not allow that picture to happen.

Marvin Lewis was indeed fired at the end of the 2018 season.

Meanwhile, the Seattle Seahawks are suddenly the team no one wants to see on their schedule. Russell Wilson is playing like a man possessed, particularly when the clock starts ticking down in the final frame.

Void
Nov 26, 2018
#7187
Big CatBig Cat

Russell Wilson is the most terrifying quarterback to face when down in the 4th quarter

Russell Wilson now, to me, is the number one guy in the NFL... right now, week 12, if you were down in the fourth quarter and you had to hand the ball to one quarterback, I'd hand it to Russell Wilson.

This is a subjective evaluation of Wilson's clutch performance in late 2018.

While Russ is making magic, Chase Daniel is out here proving that being a backup quarterback is 90% about looking like you know what you’re doing during a corporate meeting.

Win
Nov 26, 2018
#28100
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Chase Daniel is not a good quarterback and only remains in the NFL because he looks the part.

Chase Daniel is not good. No, he's really not good. But here's the thing, and this is exactly why Chase Daniel has been in the league for 20 years. He always looks like he knows exactly what he's doing... he's communicating very assertively towards his coaches, and he's probably just saying the dumbest shit possible. But he looks like—and listen, if you're in corporate America, that's 90% of your job. It's just to look like you have an understanding of what you're supposed to be doing.

Daniel remained a career backup for several more years, mostly in spot-start roles where his performance was mediocre, confirming he was valued more for his clipboard skills than his arm.

## Sean Salisbury Joins the Show Friend of the program Sean Salisbury called in from Houston to help break down the quarterback landscape. The Texans are on a tear, but Salisbury isn't ready to book their flights to the Super Bowl just yet, mostly because the play-calling hasn't found its killer instinct.

Win
Nov 26, 2018
#7192
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

The Houston Texans are not Super Bowl ready because their offense is not explosive enough

I don't think it's going to happen. I don't think they're ready yet... I don't think they're Super Bowl ready because I just don't think they're explosive enough on offense. And I don't think play calling-wise, they know how to put their foot on your throat.

The Texans lost in the Wild Card round of the 2018 playoffs to the Colts.

We also got into a heated debate about the future of USC and whether Clay Helton is just "too nice" for the job. Salisbury highlighted that while the Pac-12 is down, certain teams like Arizona State are exceeding expectations because of coaches like Herm Edwards. On the pro side, Salisbury is staying firm on his preseason prediction for the big game in February.

Push
Nov 26, 2018
#7196
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

The Patriots and Saints will meet in the Super Bowl

I picked the Patriots and the Saints in August. And I'm sticking with it. I think the Saints are the best team now... I'm going to stick with the Patriots, and I'm going to stick with the Saints in the Super Bowl.

The Patriots made the Super Bowl and won, but the Saints lost in the NFC Championship game to the Rams (following the infamous 'NOLA No-Call').

## College Football Chaos and the Done Chain With the regular season winding down, the College Football Playoff debate is reaching a fever pitch. Ohio State's demolition of Michigan has everyone arguing over resumes. Big Cat thinks the committee will ultimately favor the Sooners if they take care of business in the Big 12 title game.

Win
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#7191
Big CatBig Cat

Oklahoma will make the College Football Playoff over Ohio State

Oklahoma will go in over Ohio State. Especially because you have... if they beat Texas in the Big 12 championship game, their loss to Texas basically doesn't count anymore.

Oklahoma did indeed make the 2018 CFP as the #4 seed, while Ohio State was ranked #6.

PFT has a slightly more nuanced view on the Oklahoma vs. Ohio State debate, focusing on the matchup rather than just the wins and losses.

Void
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#28103
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ohio State is a better football team than Oklahoma, but Oklahoma would win a head-to-head game.

Ohio State is a better football team than Oklahoma, but Oklahoma would beat Ohio State head-to-head... Ohio State actually plays defense. Oklahoma doesn't. But if Oklahoma played Ohio State, Oklahoma would absolutely shred them apart because Ohio State's one biggest weakness is the big plays.

The two teams did not meet in the 2018 postseason, so this remains a matter of opinion.

We also had to update the Done Chain, which is becoming a tangled mess of regret and bad football. The Jaguars have officially been locked away after a humiliating loss to Josh Ray Allen and the Bills.

Win
Nov 26, 2018
#28101
Big CatBig Cat

The Jacksonville Jaguars are officially done-chained and their season is over.

Jaguars. Jaguars are a mess... So they're done chained officially. Apologies to them. But listen, we were talking about it before the show. The playoff picture is actually super fun this year because usually the fifth and sixth seed... you're like, that team sucks.

The Jaguars finished the 2018 season 5-11 and missed the playoffs.

As we look ahead to championship weekend, just remember that if your coach is holding a press conference saying he definitely wants to stay at his current school, he’s probably already packing his bags for a better job.

If you've lost Kato Kaelin's support, you've probably lost the season.

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Loss
Nov 26, 2018
#7188
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Denver Broncos will finish the season 9-7

They're going to go 9-7. I'm going to keep it [the Done Chain] on there.

The Broncos finished the 2018 season with a 6-10 record.
Win
Nov 26, 2018
#7189
Big CatBig Cat

Jim Harbaugh is not on the hot seat because Michigan cannot hire anyone better

I don't think he's on the hot seat... because I don't think Michigan can do better. That's the key part. It's like, if you're a Michigan fan and you're like, we want to fire Jim Harbaugh, who the fuck are you getting? No one.

Harbaugh stayed at Michigan for several more years, eventually winning a National Championship in 2023.
Push
Nov 26, 2018
#28102
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Michigan should give Jim Harbaugh a lifetime contract to guarantee winning seven to ten games every year.

I think the only choice that you have to make here if you're Michigan is you've got to give him head coach for life. Just let him get comfortable. And you know what? You're going to win between seven and ten games every single year.

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Michigan famously stuck with Harbaugh through many years of failing to beat OSU until 2021, eventually resulting in a national championship in 2023, vindicating the long-term patience.
Push
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#7190
HankHank

The Jimmy Butler experiment with the 76ers will be a success

Jimmy Butler hit another game winner from the same exact spot. Yes, he did. So it turns out maybe that experiment is going to turn out good for this.

Butler helped the Sixers reach the Eastern Conference Semifinals, but he left for Miami the following offseason, making the 'experiment' short-lived and debatable in success.
Void
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#28104
Big CatBig Cat

Urban Meyer doesn't actually want to make the College Football Playoff because he's afraid of Nick Saban.

I actually think Urban Meyer doesn't want to go to the college football playoff. Because if you remember, Nick Saban basically forced him to have a heart attack. He made Tim Tebow cry. Nick Saban made God cry and gave Urban Meyer a heart attack. There's no way he wants to do that again.

Meyer retired after this season, citing health reasons, though Ohio State won the Rose Bowl and finished #3 in the final AP poll, just missing the playoff.
Win
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#28105
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Clemson is the one team that can actually beat Alabama.

I am getting back on my take from earlier that I think that Clemson could beat Alabama. I really think they could. I think Dabo... Dabo is as close to Nick Saban as this next generation of coaches is going to get.

Clemson crushed Alabama 44-16 in the National Championship game, making this take 100% correct.
Win
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#28106
Big CatBig Cat

Kyler Murray should win the Heisman Trophy over Tua Tagovailoa because his efficiency metrics are better.

If you want another take that you want to throw out there... Kyler Murray for Heisman. And then everyone says, but Tua didn't play fourth quarters. And you say, well, if you take away Kyler Murray's fourth quarters, he still has better numbers than Tua. Boom.

Kyler Murray won the Heisman Trophy on December 8, 2018.
Loss
Nov 26, 2018·Who's Back
#28107
Big CatBig Cat

Jeff Brohm is going to leave Purdue to become the head coach at Louisville.

Jeff Braum has done just enough statements being like, 'I want to be at Purdue' for me to say, yeah, okay, you're going to be Louisville's head coach in like a month. It's the classic college coach. If a college coach does a press conference and says, 'I want to be here,' we get it, dude.

Jeff Brohm actually turned down the Louisville job in 2018 and stayed at Purdue until 2022, when he finally made the move to Louisville.
Win
Nov 26, 2018
#7193
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Mitchell Trubisky belongs in the NFL and is the best quarterback in the NFC North

Trubisky... he's proven that he belongs... I think they're going to win the division. I think they're the best team in the division.

The Bears did win the NFC North in 2018 with a 12-4 record.
Win
Nov 26, 2018
#28108
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

The Baltimore Ravens will make the NFL playoffs.

I want to say them [Colts], but the Ravens, I think, are going to make the playoffs. And then it's going to come down to the other three... That team's dangerous because they're filled with veterans and they're well-coached.

The Ravens finished 10-6 and won the AFC North to make the playoffs.
Open
Nov 26, 2018
#7194
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Quenton Nelson is a future Hall of Famer

When I'm talking to you guys, and we're talking a decade from now, Quenton Nelson will have been in like nine Pro Bowls and All-Pro like eight times. Safe stick in this draft. You might as well put a damn mustard-colored jacket on his ass right now.

Nelson was named First-Team All-Pro in his first three seasons and continues to be an elite guard, remaining on a Hall of Fame trajectory.
Loss
Nov 26, 2018
#28110
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mike McGlinchey is a better offensive lineman than Quenton Nelson.

My take is that Mike McGlinchey is actually the better offensive lineman from Notre Dame this year [than Quenton Nelson].

Quenton Nelson was an immediate First-Team All-Pro as a rookie and is widely considered the superior player, while McGlinchey has had a solid but less decorated career.
Win
Nov 26, 2018
#28109
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

The Seattle Seahawks will make the NFL playoffs as a wild card team.

I honestly think, during the fourth quarter hits, he [Wilson] says, 'no, no problem. I got this.'... The Seahawks, who I would have never imagined were able to overcome this and make the playoffs, don't look now, but I think there's a good chance. I'll bet you they slide in as a wild card.

The Seahawks finished 10-6 and earned the 5th seed (Wild Card) in the NFC.
Loss
Nov 26, 2018
#7195
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Alabama will win the 2018 College Football National Championship

I would think Alabama, unless they piss down their leg, I would assume they're going to win it... Nick Saban's never had a team where the quarterback's the best player... their quarterback's the best player in the country.

Alabama lost the National Championship game 44-16 to Clemson.
Loss
Nov 26, 2018
#7197
Sean SalisburySean Salisbury

Drew Brees is the NFL MVP

If this continues, you can't not give Brees the MVP. You have to give it to him.

Patrick Mahomes won the 2018 NFL MVP award.

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