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NFL Week 4, Fastest 2 Minutes, The Vikings Are For Real, Do The Jets Have Problems, Joe Flacco Is Back And More

Monday, September 30, 202426 takes

We start with the fastest 2 minutes. Then recap every game from Sunday (-) Vikings 31, Packers 29 (-) Falcons 26, Saints 24 (-) Bears 24, Rams 18 (-) Colts 27, Steelers 24 (-) Bengals 34, Panthers 24 (-) Broncos 10, Jets 9 (-) Bucs 33, Eagles 16 (-) Texans 24, Jaguars 20 (-) Commanders 42, Cardinals 14 (-) 49ers 30, Patriots 13 (-) Raiders 20, Browns 16 (-) Chiefs 17, Chargers 10 (-) We finish with who's back of the week. (-).

NFL Week 4 Recap: Vikings are For Real, Jets Problems, and Joe Flacco’s Return

Victory Monday is back on the menu as the NFL Week 4 slate delivered pure chaos, rainy upsets, and the return of the Elite Dragon. Big Cat is riding high after a Bears win, while Max and Memes are slowly descending into madness. The guys break down every single game, from the Ravens making a statement on Sunday night to the Vikings proving that the early-season hype wasn't just a September fluke.

The Ravens and Vikings are Officially Back

Sunday Night Football saw Baltimore absolutely bully the Bills. The all-black uniforms clearly provide a statistical advantage that the analytics nerds haven't accounted for yet. Big Cat is fully back on the Baltimore bandwagon after watching Derrick Henry look like he found the fountain of youth.

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Sep 30, 2024
#26224
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens are all the way back after dominating the Bills

Looks like the Ravens are all the way back. ... The Ravens ascending back to what we expected preseason after an 0-2 start. ... It's just something about it [the all-black uniforms]. It adds like five points of strength to every player.

The Ravens finished 13-4 and secured the #1 seed in the AFC, proving they were indeed 'back' to elite status.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#26225
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Derrick Henry is no longer a 'fat ass' and is back to his dominant self

Also Lamar Jackson is good now. He's no longer a fat ass. ... And yeah, Derrick Henry is, I mean he's 87-yard touchdown. I did not think Big D had an 87-yard touchdown still in his bag.

Derrick Henry went on to lead the NFL in rushing yards and touchdowns in 2024.

Up in Lambeau, the Vikings jumped out to a 28-0 lead and held on to beat the Packers. Sam Darnold is playing like a guy who finally found a forever home after years in the foster care system of Adam Gase and the Panthers. PFT is ready to put him in the award races already.

Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17951
Big CatBig Cat

I am now officially ready to take the Vikings for real

I am now officially ready to take the Vikings for real. I needed this win for them to take them fully for real. And Sam Darnold, maybe he is just different now.

The Vikings finished the season 12-5 and made the playoffs, proving they were indeed 'for real' despite preseason expectations.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17952
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the season ended today, Sam Darnold would be in the conversation for MVP

Thought experiment. If the season ended today, [Sam Darnold] might not be MVP, but he would be maybe second or third for MVP. ... I think Sam Darnold would be in that conversation.

At the 4-week mark, Darnold led the league in TDs and wins, putting him firmly in the early season MVP conversation.

On the other side, Jordan Love looked like he might have rushed back a little too soon. He threw four touchdowns but paired them with three picks, looking like a total Brett Favre tribute act. PFT actually thinks the Packers might have been better off sticking with Malik Willis for one more week.

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Sep 30, 2024
#26226
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Malik Willis is actually the best fit for the Packers offense over Jordan Love

I've come the other way around. Now, now I think that Malik Willis is the best fit for that offense. Jordan Love, I think came back a little too soon. ... I think he's rushing himself a little bit.

Jordan Love remained the franchise starter and led them to the playoffs; Willis was clearly the backup despite playing well in relief.

Rain-Soaked Disasters in the Meadowlands

The Broncos-Jets game was an absolute war of attrition that set offensive football back decades. Bo Nix won a game while throwing for negative yardage in the first half, which is honestly more impressive than throwing for 300. PFT has officially dubbed him "T-Bo Nix" because he simply finds ways to win despite himself.

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Sep 30, 2024
#26229
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bo Nicks is a winner who wins in spite of his own bad quarterback play

Maybe Bo Nicks just goes out there and he wins fucking football games. ... Bo Nicks did the impossible. He won a game with Bo Nicks as a quarterback. ... He's t-Bo Nicks.

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Bo Nix actually improved significantly throughout the season, proving to be a legitimate NFL starter, not just a 'lucky' winner.

For the Jets, the vibes are reaching a critical low. Robert Saleh and Aaron Rodgers seem to be having two different conversations in the post-game pressers. While Saleh wants to dial back the cadence to avoid penalties, Rodgers wants to hold guys accountable.

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Sep 30, 2024
#26230
Big CatBig Cat

There is a major disconnect between Aaron Rodgers and Robert Saleh

Do you think there's an issue between coach and quarterback? Because there was a quote afterwards that Saleh said that they need to dial back the cadence and Aaron Rodgers said that's one way to do it. The other way is to hold them accountable. ... There might be a slight problem.

Robert Saleh was fired just a week later, confirming major internal issues between coaching and the star QB.
Void
Sep 30, 2024
#26231
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers hates Robert Saleh but loves Nathaniel Hackett because he can overrule him

It might be why Aaron loves Nathaniel Hackett so much because he's like, I will overrule this guy on every single play call. And he won't say shit. ... They probably have a dummy headset for Nathaniel Hackett.

While exaggerated, reports consistently noted Rodgers' total control over the offense and his loyalty to Hackett specifically.

Bears Progress and the Punter Weapon

Big Cat’s Bears actually looked like a professional football team this week. Caleb Williams had an intervention with offensive coordinator Shane Waldron, and it actually worked. DeAndre Swift finally found daylight, and the defense stood tall against Matthew Stafford. However, the real story remains the rookie punter Tory Taylor, who is legitimately the most exciting player on the roster.

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Sep 30, 2024
#26228
Big CatBig Cat

Caleb Williams will benefit from the offensive players' intervention with Shane Waldron

Apparently during the week, players had a basically intervention with Shane Waldron and said, you have to be more aggressive. Caleb Williams, Marcedes Lewis, I think Cole Kmet was there. ... He's learning from his mistakes. ... I was just happy. It was fun watching the Bears win at home.

The intervention didn't last; Shane Waldron was eventually fired mid-season as the offense continued to struggle.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17954
Big CatBig Cat

Bears punter Tory Taylor is a fucking weapon

And we haven't even gotten to the real MVP of this game. Tory Taylor, who is a fucking weapon... he won this game for the Bears in the end... he is an absolute weapon.

Taylor established himself as one of the best punters in the league, consistently pinning teams deep throughout the 2024 season.

Coaching Hot Seats and Trade Rumors

In Philadelphia, Max is officially out on Nick Sirianni. The Eagles got handled by Baker Mayfield and the Bucs, and the frustration is mounting. Jalen Hurts' turnover problem is becoming impossible to ignore, and Max is already looking at outside hires for the bye week.

Loss
Sep 30, 2024
#17960
MaxMax

There is a chance Nick Sirianni doesn't make it through the bye week

I think there's a chance that Sirianni doesn't make it, make it through the bye... there's a problem between coach and quarterback.

Sirianni made it through the bye week and remained the head coach throughout the season.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17961
MaxMax

Jalen Hurts is addicted to turning the ball over

And Jalen Hurts is addicted to turning the ball over.

Hurts continued to struggle with turnovers in 2024, leading the league in giveaways for several stretches.

Meanwhile, the Jaguars are 0-4 and Doug Pederson is subtly tossing Press Taylor under the bus. It’s reaching the point where teams might need to consider the "Disaster Draft" loophole PFT found on Reddit.

Who’s Back and the NBA Shakeup

To wrap up the show, the guys look at the massive Karl-Anthony Towns trade to the Knicks. While Memes is sad to lose Dante DiVincenzo, the rest of the crew is worried about how a guy like KAT handles the New York media and Tom Thibodeau’s grueling style.

Loss
Sep 30, 2024·Who's Back
#17968
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Karl-Anthony Towns is a terrible fit for the Knicks

Was your initial reaction like mine, which was basically that KAT could not be a worst fit for this team?

Karl-Anthony Towns proved to be a great fit for the Knicks. New York advanced to the Eastern Conference Finals in the 2025 playoffs, beating the Celtics in the second round. Towns was a key contributor to their success.
Loss
Sep 30, 2024·Who's Back
#17969
Big CatBig Cat

New York is going to eat Karl-Anthony Towns alive

I think Knicks fans are going, I mean they were really mean to Julius Randall and if KA... I just don't think [New York] is going to eat him alive.

Karl-Anthony Towns thrived in New York. The Knicks beat the Celtics in the second round and reached the Eastern Conference Finals. Towns was a key player in their playoff run, proving he was 'built like that' for New York.

And finally, the most important update of all: Hank is still training to dunk, though his evaluation was a bit of a disaster. The "steroid decision" is looming, and we might have a brand new Hank by October.

Loss
Sep 30, 2024
#17955
HankHank

I still plan to dunk and the steroid decision is coming in the next two weeks

I'm still going gung ho. I still plan to dunk. I'm still training as if I'm going to dunk... the steroid decision is coming in the next two weeks.

Hank did not successfully dunk by his deadline. Evidence indicates he was unable to achieve the dunk.

Hopefully, Sam Darnold enjoys London more than Robert Saleh enjoys the rain.

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Win
Sep 30, 2024
#26227
Big CatBig Cat

I officially believe in Sam Darnold going forward

I'm sure we will have one game where old Sam Darnold will come back. But I do believe in Sam Darnold going forward. I do. I mean they're playing great ball.

Darnold maintained a high level of play throughout the season, leading the Vikings to a playoff berth.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17953
Big CatBig Cat

I believe in the Falcons more than the Saints going forward

Who going forward, do you believe in the Falcons more than the Saints? I tend to think that. The Saints hot start looked awesome... but the Cowboys might not be that good.

The Falcons went on to lead the division for much of the season while the Saints fired their coach mid-season.
Push
Sep 30, 2024
#17956
Big CatBig Cat

I feel like we crowned the Steelers defense a little bit too early

I feel like we've maybe crowned [the Steelers defense] a little bit too early. They're very good. But they also played some not great quarterbacks. And now they had to play Joe Flacco. He won a Super Bowl. He's elite.

The Steelers defense remained a top-10 unit, but they were not as impenetrable as they appeared in weeks 1-3.
Loss
Sep 30, 2024
#17957
Big CatBig Cat

Justin Fields is better than Russell Wilson

Justin Fields better than Russell Wilson. I think so.

Russell Wilson eventually took the starting job back and performed at a higher level, leading the team to several wins.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17959
Big CatBig Cat

Patrick Surtain II is one of the best, if not the best cornerback in the league

Patrick Surtain, who we did put respect on last week, is like one of the best cornerbacks, if not the best cornerback in the league.

Surtain II is widely regarded as an All-Pro and top-3 cornerback in the NFL.
Loss
Sep 30, 2024
#26232
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL coaches should agree to decline all soft taunting penalties

I've got two solutions for it... if coaches start declining taunting penalties. A gentleman's rule. If it's a soft ass bitch ass taunt, decline the penalty and say no thanks, we'll strap it up like men.

This never happened; coaches take the yardage whenever offered by the refs.
Void
Sep 30, 2024
#17962
Big CatBig Cat

Nico Collins is a top three wide receiver

Is Nico Collins a top three wide receiver? 'Cause it feels like he is. He's awesome. He's so good.

Collins was leading the league in receiving yards at the time and is widely considered elite, though 'top 3' is a high bar.
Loss
Sep 30, 2024
#17963
Big CatBig Cat

Laremy Tunsil is going to break the record for flags this year

Is Laremy Tunsil going for the record for flags this year? ... I'll say right now, Laremy Tunsil, I support your aspirations to break the record for most flags in a season. I think he's going for it.

Tunsil did not break the all-time record, but he did lead the league in penalties for most of the season.
Push
Sep 30, 2024
#17964
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the Commanders have even an average defense, they are a playoff/divisional round team

If our defense is 16th in the NFL... I'm thinking a win in the playoffs. I'm thinking maybe divisional week. ... I'm thinking maybe Divisional Wiki. ... If our defense is just average to a little bit above average... I'm thinking maybe that team today looked like they could be in a soupy.

The Commanders did make the playoffs and had an above-average season, though they didn't win a playoff game.
Win
Sep 30, 2024
#17965
Big CatBig Cat

Amar'e Cooper wants out of Cleveland

Amari Cooper wants out. He does not want to be there anymore.

Amari Cooper was traded to the Buffalo Bills shortly after this episode aired.
Void
Sep 30, 2024·Who's Back
#17967
Big CatBig Cat

Carson Beck's sleeve tattoos are a bad look for a quarterback

I have a theory on Carson Beck. I think the, I think the tattoos are too much for a quarterback. That's just not a quarterback's look. ... If you have tattoos on your throwing arm, that tells me that you definitely took at least a few hours away from practicing.

Purely a subjective aesthetic and work-ethic theory that cannot be proven or disproven.

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