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NFL Week 6, Eagles/Niners Go Down, Are The Jets Good? Who's Back And More

Monday, October 16, 202317 takes

NFL Week 6 we start with Fastest 2 minutes then talk every game from Sunday. (-) Ravens 24, Titans 16 (-) Bengals 17, Seahawks 13 (-) Browns 19, 49ers 17 (-) Commanders 24, Falcons 16 (-) Vikings 19, Bears 13 (- ) Dolphins 42, Panthers 21 (-) Jags 37, Colts 20 (-) Texans 20, Saints 13 (-) Jets 20, Eagles 14 (-) Raiders 21, Patriots 17 (-) Rams 26, Cardinals 9 (-) Lions 20, Bucs 6 (-) Who's back of the week and more. (-)

NFL Week 6: Undefeated Teams Fall, Jets are Back, and the Lions Rule the NFC

NFL Week 6 provided the absolute chaos we crave, starting with the collapse of the final two undefeated teams. While the 49ers and Eagles both dropped games they had no business losing, the morning started in London with the Ravens handling business against the Titans. The game was a classic Mike Vrabel struggle, but PFT isn't ready to bury Tennessee just yet based on their history of slow starts.

Loss
Oct 16, 2023
#27923
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I am not ready to declare the Titans dead because Mike Vrabel always finds a way to win

I'm actually not ready to declare the Titans dead yet. Because Vrabel always will have a game. Vrabel finds a way. The last time they started two and four, you know what they did? I think they made it all the way to the AFC Championship game.

The Titans finished the 2023 season 6-11 and missed the playoffs, effectively being 'dead' shortly after this take.

As for Baltimore, they looked dominant early but nearly let the Titans back in by settling for way too many field goals. Big Cat is still waiting for Lamar and company to show that true killer instinct before he puts them in the top tier of the AFC.

Win
Oct 16, 2023
#924
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens are currently good but lack the killer instinct to be great

I feel like the Ravens are in the good have not figured out how to be great category yet... they're not being able to step on a team's throat... they're not finishing drives and they're not letting teams just kind of linger around.

The Ravens eventually secured the #1 seed in the AFC but lost in the AFC Championship game to the Chiefs, supporting the idea they struggled to finish on the biggest stage.

Speaking of London, the rumors of a potential Super Bowl across the pond have the guys ready to go to war. PFT is prepared to take extreme measures if the NFL tries to move the biggest game of the year to British soil.

Open
Oct 16, 2023
#923
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If the NFL hosts a Super Bowl in London, we should riot and reclaim England as a U.S. territory

If that happens, we riot. If we have to play a Super Bowl in England, we get all of England back as part of the United States. It's the Super Bowl. It's not the International Bowl.

The NFL has continued to explore international games but has not yet scheduled a Super Bowl in London as of 2024.

In Cleveland, the Browns pulled off the upset of the year by stifling Brock Purdy and the Niners. It was an elite defensive performance that had the guys questioning if this team actually functions better when they aren't forced to revolve around their highly-paid quarterback.

Push
Oct 16, 2023
#925
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Browns might actually be better without Deshaun Watson and Nick Chubb

Do you think that the Cleveland Browns are better without Deshaun Watson, Nick Chubb and Joel Bitonio? They might be. And you had a lot of people talking about the 49ers being super injured today. Well, the Browns, they they got you beat when it comes to major injuries.

The Browns finished 11-6 and made the playoffs with Joe Flacco after Watson went down, largely proving they were a complete team regardless of Watson, though Chubb's absence was felt.

Meanwhile, Joe Burrow finally looked like himself in a gritty win over the Seahawks. The biggest takeaway wasn't the stat line, but the fact that he was actually moving like a human being again, which is a terrifying development for the rest of the North.

Win
Oct 16, 2023
#27924
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Burrow's calf is fully healthy based on his sprint to the end zone

I saw that Joe Burrow ran—sprinted to the end zone. That's how you know that his calf is doing good. I haven't seen that kind of mobility out of Joe in a long time. Sprinted to the end zone, picked up the ball, ran it back to the sidelines.

Burrow's calf did seem to improve, though he later suffered a season-ending wrist injury in November.

Over in the NFC South, the Falcons continue to be the most frustrating team in football. They have all the weapons in the world, but Desmond Ridder’s three-interception performance against the Commanders proved that Atlanta is just a league-average QB away from being a real threat.

Win
Oct 16, 2023
#926
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons could make the playoffs with any quarterback not named Desmond Ridder

The big story out of this is the Atlanta Falcons are good enough to go to the playoffs with any quarterback not named Desmond Ridder... If you got a B minus today, the Falcons win that game.

The Falcons finished 7-10 and missed the playoffs. Ridder was eventually benched, and the team's failure was widely attributed to poor QB play and coaching.

Washington, on the other hand, has turned into the league's premier spoiler. Whether it's snapping winning streaks or ending losing skids, the Commanders are the ultimate chaos agents of the 2023 season.

Win
Oct 16, 2023
#27925
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Commanders are officially the streak-breakers of the NFL

The Commanders are officially the streak breakers of the NFL—streak breaking kings of the NFL. This was a 31 game home winning streak for Desmond Ridder that was snapped today. We beat the Ravens when they had their 24 game preseason streak. The Bears had a 14 game losing streak, the Commanders broke that last week. We broke the Eagles 8-0 streak last year. The Commanders just seem like streak breakers.

The factual claims about the streaks broken are correct, making the label a valid observation.

Then we have the New York Jets. After beating the Eagles for the first time in franchise history, we have to look ourselves in the mirror and admit the truth: the Jets are actually a good football team. Even with Zach Wilson under center, that defense is so terrifying they can beat anyone in the league.

Loss
Oct 16, 2023
#930
Big CatBig Cat

The New York Jets are actually a good football team

Are The Jets Good? I think they might be good. They're three and three... They played the Bills, the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Chiefs. They're two and two against those teams... I think the Jets might be good.

The Jets finished 7-10 and missed the playoffs. Their offense was historic in its futility despite a great defense, so they were ultimately not a 'good' team.

Max was taking it especially hard, mostly because he’s currently trying to load-manage his fandom between the Phillies' playoff run and the Eagles' regular season. He even tried to claim that Jalen Carter is already superior to the greatest defensive player of our generation, which went over about as well as you'd expect.

Loss
Oct 16, 2023
#929
MaxMax

Jalen Carter is already better than Aaron Donald

Jalen Carter will be back next week... [Big Cat: Jalen Carter's already better than Aaron Donald?] Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, okay.

While Carter had a great rookie season, Aaron Donald was a 1st Team All-Pro in 2023. Carter cooled off significantly in the second half of the season.

Down in Miami, the Dolphins fell behind early but eventually did what they always do: let Tyreek Hill run past everyone. Big Cat remains convinced that there is no player in the league more impossible to account for than Cheetah.

Void
Oct 16, 2023
#928
Big CatBig Cat

Tyreek Hill is the hardest player in the NFL to game plan for and the league's biggest mismatch

He is the hardest guy to game plan for. He's the biggest mismatch. Like just in terms of speed, because it really is like watching a different sport when he's running. I would say he may not be the best receiver in terms of catching the ball high, pointing the ball, catching in traffic. He is impossible to game plan for when he's healthy.

Hill finished the 2023 season with 1,799 yards and 13 TDs, confirming his status as an elite mismatch, though subjective.

With the Niners and Eagles both losing, the hierarchy of the NFC has officially shifted. The Detroit Lions went into Tampa and systematically dismantled the Bucs, leaving no doubt about who the current kings of the conference are.

Push
Oct 16, 2023
#932
Big CatBig Cat

The Lions are currently the best team in the NFC

The Lions are maybe the best team in the NFC. I know that they're the Niners, I know. But the Lions didn't lose today and the Eagles and the Niners lost so we have to by law give the Lions their credit.

The Lions finished as the #3 seed and reached the NFC Championship game, where they lost to the 49ers. They were certainly among the top 3 teams.

To wrap up the show, Who's Back featured a breakdown of the latest Gen Z trend, "Silent Walking," which Big Cat correctly identified as just "thinking" for people who have never been alone with their own brains.

Void
Oct 16, 2023·Who's Back
#934
Big CatBig Cat

Silent walking is a ridiculous Gen Z trend that just describes thinking

My who's back the week is a new trend. It's called Silent Walking... walking without your phone... this person has never had an inner dialogue. I have an inner dialogue every day. I'm doing a lot of thinking. I got multiple dialogues.

This is a subjective lifestyle take; Big Cat's critique of the trend's absurdity is a matter of opinion.

Hank also officially welcomed the future of basketball, noting that Victor Wembanyama is already breaking the sport before his rookie season even officially begins.

Open
Oct 16, 2023·Who's Back
#933
HankHank

Victor Wembanyama looks like he's going to be the greatest player of all time

Victor Wembanyama has been playing in the preseason and he looks like he's gonna be the greatest player of all time. I've never seen anybody the way he plays basketball. He's crazy... He puts like a dome over the rim. It's insane.

Wembanyama had a historic rookie season, winning ROTY and finishing 2nd in DPOY. It's too early for GOAT status, but the trajectory is elite.

If the Jets make the playoffs and Aaron Rogers actually comes back, we're going to have a very weird January.

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More Takes

Win
Oct 16, 2023
#27926
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kirk Cousins will eventually earn over $300 million in his career

Any way you slice it, I think Kirk Cousins is gonna end up making over $300 million.

Cousins signed a 4-year, $180M deal with the Falcons in 2024, easily pushing his career earnings past $300M.
Push
Oct 16, 2023
#927
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jim Harbaugh wants to return to the NFL to coach Caleb Williams and beat his brother

Harbaugh, I think it is in the back of Harbaugh's mind that if he wins a national championship, he he wants to go back to the NFL because... he can't stand the fact that he hasn't won a Super Bowl and his brother has won over him. So he's definitely thinking about going back to the NFL and you would think that he would want to go back to a team that might be in a position to draft Caleb Williams.

Harbaugh did return to the NFL (Chargers) after winning the title. While he didn't join the Bears for Caleb Williams, the core prediction of his return for Super Bowl glory was accurate.
Loss
Oct 16, 2023
#27927
Big CatBig Cat

The Jaguars might be a top-tier team after winning three games in a row

The Jags looked good. Their defense looked very good... credit to the Jags. Two games in London, one against the Bills, and then coming back home. They've won three in a row. They've righted the ship after that Chiefs/Texans double loss... the Jags might be good.

The Jaguars collapsed at the end of the season, finishing 9-8 and missing the playoffs, proving they weren't truly 'good' in a Super Bowl contender sense.
Loss
Oct 16, 2023
#931
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Aaron Rodgers will return to play for the Jets in the playoffs this year

Does [Aaron Rodgers] play this year? [PFT:] I hope so. Playoffs, I think he plays.

The Jets were eliminated from playoff contention early, and Rodgers did not return to play a snap after his Week 1 injury.

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