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NFL Week 9, Fastest 2 Minutes And Deion Sanders

Monday, November 9, 202021 takes

NFL Week 9 is in the books and we start with Fastest 2 minutes. Recapping every game from Sunday ( - ). Seahawks/Bills ( - ) Ravens/Colts ( - ) Titans/Bears (-) Panthers/Chiefs ( - ) Lions/Vikings ( - ) Giants/WFT ( - ) Texans/Jaguars ( - ) Broncos/Falcons ( - ) Dolphins/Cardinals ( - ) Chargers/Raiders ( - ) Cowboys/Steelers ( - ) We wrap up with Deion Sanders, who's back of the week and football guy of the week.

NFL Week 9 Recap: Josh Allen Shreds the Seahawks, Bears Are Broken, and Deion Sanders

NFL Week 9 is in the books, and it was a weekend that proved the NFC is essentially a giant house of cards. We started Sunday Night Football watching the Saints absolutely dismantle the Buccaneers in a game that felt like it should have been stopped by the referee. Tom Brady looked lost, the Saints looked like the best team in the conference, and Bruce Arians looked like he was wearing a flak jacket for reasons only he understands.

Win
Nov 9, 2020
#5279
Big CatBig Cat

The Bucs' blowout loss to the Saints was so bad they should just throw out the tape and move on

Is it better that the Bucs lost so bad that they can just throw this one out? You throw the tape out. Bruce Arians is not going to take this game seriously... he is going to hit the delete button on it. I'm also concerned just with his sideline appearance in general... it appears that Bruce Arians has a bomb strapped to his chest at all times.

The Bucs actually did bounce back and eventually beat the Saints in the playoffs on their way to a Super Bowl win, proving that throwing out the tape was the right move.

The Josh Allen Statement Game

The biggest story of the early window was the Buffalo Bills treating the Seattle Seahawks' defense like a high school JV unit. Josh Allen didn't just play well; he outclassed Russell Wilson in every facet of the game. While the media has been desperate to give Wilson his first MVP vote, the performance gap between him and guys like Patrick Mahomes is starting to become impossible to ignore.

Win
Nov 9, 2020
#5281
Big CatBig Cat

I wouldn't give Russell Wilson an MVP vote right now because Patrick Mahomes is better

Russell Wilson is not the MVP. Patrick Mahomes is starting to play incredible football. He's like so Patrick Mahomes is 25 touchdowns one interception... if I had to do the MVP voting right this second, I wouldn't give Russell Wilson an MVP vote.

Russell Wilson ended up finishing the 2020 season with zero MVP votes again. Aaron Rodgers won the award.

It’s getting harder to defend the Seahawks as legitimate contenders when they are giving up 300-plus passing yards to almost every quarterback they face. PFT noted that without Russell Wilson playing hero ball every single snap, this team would look indistinguishable from the basement dwellers in the NFC East.

Void
Nov 9, 2020
#5283
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If you take Russell Wilson off the Seahawks, they would be the West Coast Dallas Cowboys

I think you can make the argument that because his defense is so bad that that is actually saying that Russell Wilson... is the most valuable player in that if you were to take him off of his team... they would be the West Coast Dallas Cowboys, right? Except way way way worse.

This is a subjective comparison of team value, but Wilson's subsequent departure years later did result in a decline for Seattle, though not quite to Cowboys levels.
Win
Nov 9, 2020
#5284
Big CatBig Cat

The Seahawks are frauds because their defense cannot be trusted

The Seahawks who I think they're frauds. I think they are... they definitely are the biggest frauds. Your defense just can't can't be trusted whatsoever and I again I still think there are... they're not going to figure it out.

The Seahawks went 12-4 but lost at home in the Wild Card round to the Rams, largely supporting the 'fraud' label for a high-seeded team.

The Bears Are a Disgrace

Watching the Bears offense has become a form of psychological torture for Big Cat. At one point in the first half against the Titans, the team's leading rusher was Barkevious Mingo on a fake punt. The offensive line is a sieve, Nick Foles looks like he’s solving math equations while being chased by lions, and the play-calling from Matt Nagy has become completely predictable.

Void
Nov 9, 2020
#5287
Big CatBig Cat

Matt Nagy has lost the locker room

I'm so sick of Matt Nagy. I'm so sick of the visor. I'm so sick of his fucking bald ass head... I think Matt Nagy has lost locker room. No you have, no, I think he has because when you whenever you have a situation where it's like one side of the ball is so much better than the other the defense is just like sitting in the locker room knowing... where these clowns doing?

While the locker room didn't publicly revolt that season, Nagy was eventually fired a year later after the relationship with the team and fans completely soured.

With the season slipping away, the search for a new offensive identity is becoming desperate. Big Cat is already looking toward the future, eyeing the Panthers' offensive coordinator as the potential savior for whatever quarterback the Bears inevitably ruin next.

Loss
Nov 9, 2020
#24666
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Brady should be the next head coach of the Chicago Bears

Joe Brady should be the next coach of the Bears, please. ... He's a guy that's gonna wow somebody in an interview. Be like, 'I know this guy doesn't have the experience, but look at the track record where he's been.' He's an offensive genius.

Matt Nagy was not fired until after the 2021 season, and Joe Brady was never hired by the Bears; he was actually fired by the Panthers in late 2021.
Loss
Nov 9, 2020
#5285
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears will not make the playoffs this year

In the last 10 years, there's been five teams and started five in one and not made the playoffs. I don't think the Bears going to make the playoffs this year. Let's be honest.

The Bears actually did make the playoffs as the 7th seed with an 8-8 record in the first year of the expanded playoff format.

Deion Sanders on Locker Room Dynamics

Coach Prime joined the show to give his veteran perspective on the weekend's action. He didn't hold back on the Seahawks' defensive woes or the crumbling situation in Chicago. According to Deion, once a coach loses the trust of the millionaires in that locker room, there is no coming back from it. He also offered a spicy take on the rookie quarterback rankings, putting Justin Herbert ahead of the field for his ability to read the game.

Win
Nov 9, 2020
#24669
Deion SandersDeion Sanders

The Seahawks will not win the Super Bowl this year because of their terrible defense

They're horrible. ... There is no fix right now. That's an off-season fix. ... Until those corners or other persons on that defense have that kind of dog-eat-dog attitude, it's not going to be fixed. ... They're not going to win a Super Bowl, not with that. No, not this year.

The Seahawks lost in the Wild Card round to the Rams, confirming Deion's prediction that their defense would let them down.
Void
Nov 9, 2020
#24671
Deion SandersDeion Sanders

Justin Herbert is a better quarterback than Joe Burrow because he reads the field better

Herbert would be [ranked above Burrow]. ... Herbert is showing me some things and he's reading the defense and he's seeing the game, to me, a lot better. He's more effective and efficient and he seems like he has a better grasp on everything.

Justin Herbert went on to win the NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year in 2020, justifying Deion's high assessment for that season.

Deion also checked in on the Ravens, noting that while they managed to pull out a tough win against the Colts, Lamar Jackson is being severely hampered by a lack of weapons. If the Ravens want to be more than a regular-season juggernaut, they need to find a true Alpha receiver.

Void
Nov 9, 2020
#24667
Deion SandersDeion Sanders

The Ravens need to get Lamar Jackson a legitimate number one wide receiver to succeed

I love Lamar, but he has to develop more. They need to develop him more in the passing game as well as they got to go into free agency and get him a real number one guy out there.

This was a major talking point for years until the Ravens finally drafted Zay Flowers and signed Odell Beckham Jr. years later. At the time, their WR room was notably thin.

Around the League

The Dolphins are officially for real. Brian Flores has that team playing inspired football, and Tua Tagovailoa showed serious flashes of why he was a top pick. Meanwhile, Kliff Kingsbury made one of the most "chickenshit" coaching decisions of the year, electing to kick a late field goal instead of trusting Kyler Murray to pick up a yard and seal the game.

Void
Nov 9, 2020
#5295
Big CatBig Cat

Kliff Kingsbury coached chickenshit football by kicking a late field goal against Miami

Coach of the Year Kliff Kingsbury. What the fuck are you doing? What is Kliff Kingsbury doing that was chickenshit football... He kicks the field goal to try to tie the game and give the ball back to Tua who then could easily go back down the field and win the game... I don't know why the fuck he did that that was chickenshit football.

The decision was widely panned by analytics-minded fans and likely did decrease the Cardinals' win probability.
Loss
Nov 9, 2020
#5293
Big CatBig Cat

The Dolphins are going to the playoffs

The Dolphins are going to the playoffs. The Dolphins are going to the playoffs. The Dolphins are a good team. They are a good football team... I have the Dolphins going 10 and six... they have graduated from feisty to just a good football team.

Big Cat correctly predicted they would go 10-6, but remarkably, the Dolphins became only the third team in NFL history to go 10-6 and MISS the playoffs.

Then there are the Chargers. They found a way to lose on the final play again, confirming the "Arrow Paradox" that prevents them from ever actually crossing the finish line of a close game. It’s reached the point where you almost have to respect the consistency of the heartbreak.

Void
Nov 9, 2020
#5297
Big CatBig Cat

The Chargers will never win a close game; it's the arrow paradox

I don't understand it how they can do this every single week... It's the arrow Paradox... like an arrow will never get totally from me to you if I shot you with an arrow because it would have to travel half the distance to you... that's how the Chargers keep getting closer and closer to winning a close game and they never they're just never going to win a close game.

The 2020 Chargers finished 7-9, with almost all losses being by one score, continuing their reputation for close losses.

Who’s Back of the Week

To wrap things up, we looked ahead to a Fall Masters. Big Cat is fully convinced that Brooks Koepka is going to treat Augusta like his own personal playground now that his health is back and he has a legitimate rival to focus on. We also debated the merits of the "No Case" phone lifestyle, which Big Cat is sticking to despite his current phone being a shattered piece of metal and glass.

Push
Nov 9, 2020·Who's Back
#5298
Big CatBig Cat

Brooks Koepka will dominate The Masters

My who's back is Brooks Koepka. Yeah Brooks Koepka is back. It's a major. He's gonna dominate I'm certain of it... Masters are here. He's locked in and for the first time in a long time, it looks like he has an actual rival.

Brooks Koepka finished T-7th at the 2020 Masters. A top-10 is strong, but Dustin Johnson dominated the tournament with a record score.
Void
Nov 9, 2020·Who's Back
#5299
Big CatBig Cat

You are a pussy if you put a case on your phone

No case gang for life. You're a pussy if you put a case on your phone. No, my phone works... Every time I touch this phone metal on skin baby and every time I drop it, it's adrenaline coursing through my veins... I was no case gang for life.

This is a purely subjective life philosophy, though statistically, cases do prevent cracks.

If you see a guy in a visor staring blankly at a wall this week, just give him some space, he’s probably just a Bears fan.

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More Takes

Push
Nov 9, 2020
#24665
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens can win in the playoffs because they've proven they can win after trailing at halftime

The Ravens deserve credit for winning a game like that where it was clear they didn't have their best game. ... Those are the things you got to see out of the Ravens to start saying to yourself, 'Okay, they can win in January.'

The Ravens did win their first playoff game against the Titans, but then lost to the Bills in the Divisional Round. This take is partially correct as they finally won a postseason game but didn't make a deep run.
Push
Nov 9, 2020
#5289
Big CatBig Cat

The Chiefs are by far the best team in the NFL

The Chiefs are definitely by far the best team in the NFL and then... they can literally do everything. I don't know like yes, this game was close... but winning these games. I'm never gonna be like, oh man, the chief should have blown them out.

The Chiefs finished 14-2 and made the Super Bowl, though they lost to the Buccaneers.
Void
Nov 9, 2020
#5291
Big CatBig Cat

Dalvin Cook is the answer to the 'don't pay running backs' argument

The Dalvin cook Dalvin cook should be the he will be the response to everyone being like don't pay running backs. Everyone will now start saying but Dalvin cook because he does make that much of a difference for Vikings... he is now the answer. He's the poster boy for yes. You should pay him and keep touching the electric fence.

Cook had another Pro Bowl season in 2020, but the Vikings eventually released him in 2023 for salary cap reasons, following the typical pattern of veteran RB contracts.
Loss
Nov 9, 2020
#24668
Big CatBig Cat

Dez Bryant is so slow now that he should transition to playing tight end or offensive line

I said that Dez Bryant is so slow he should play tight end maybe even offensive line. ... If I wasn't on that, he should not have put that out. His workout tape showed physicality, but he had someone holding him back with a resistance band, that's why he was running so slow.

Dez stayed at WR for the remainder of his brief stint with the Ravens and then essentially retired, never moving to tight end.
Void
Nov 9, 2020
#24670
Deion SandersDeion Sanders

Matt Nagy has officially lost the Bears locker room

As a head coach, when you lose games, that's one thing. But when you lose the players in the locker room, it's over for you. [Nagy] has definitely lost the locker room. He's lost it. It's over.

Nagy managed to keep his job for one more year and even stumbled into a playoff appearance this season, but the culture never fully recovered and he was eventually fired.
Void
Nov 9, 2020·Who's Back
#24672
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The rivalry between Bryson DeChambeau and Brooks Koepka is great for the game of golf

For the first time in a long time, it looks like [Brooks] has an actual rival. It's good for golf. ... Having rivalry and pressure really brings all the best qualities out of Brooks that we know and love.

The rivalry peaked in 2021 with the 'Brooksy' chants and a match on TV, and is widely considered one of the more entertaining periods in modern golf history.

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