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Rachel Nichols, Celtics Win Big, Pacers And Wolves Go Up, Derek Carr Retires, NHL Playoffs, Max Is Back And Jordon Of The Week

Monday, May 12, 202521 takes

Max and the Celtics are back (-). We talk about the weekend in playoffs including the Warriors being a bummer without Steph, the Thunder and Nuggets playing horrendous basketball on Sunday, the Pacers blowout (-). We talk some hockey and PFT has a must win tag on Monday night and we had an insane buzzer beater in Edmonton (-). NFL News including schedule release week and Derek Carr retires (-). Who's back of the week including Theranos and the Rockies fire Bud Black because their owners suck (-). Rachel Nichols joins the show to talk NBA playoffs, where Giannis will play next year, Lebron paycut, MVP and more (-). We finish with Jordon of the week with recent new news about her and Bill Belichick and Max is back and gives us gifts from Hawaii (-).

Rachel Nichols on NBA Playoffs, Celtics vs Knicks, and Max is Back

Max and the Celtics are officially back, and the energy in the studio shifted the second Max stepped in after his Hawaii hiatus. The Celtics handled business against the Knicks on Saturday, which has Hank feeling himself again. Even though they were down in the series, Jason Tatum showed up in fully laced-up Timberlands to remind New York that he's the bad guy. Hank is so confident that he's already planning the parade route, despite the Knicks being one of the toughest outs in the league.

Loss
May 12, 2025
#6295
HankHank

The Celtics will defeat the Knicks in six games

I feel good. I'm happy. I said I wouldn't be worried if they went down oh two. They came, they came out, they showed what they needed to do... I feel like that's gonna be, they're gonna win this series in six.

The Celtics did not win the series against the Knicks in six games. The Knicks won the series 4-2, eliminating the Celtics with a 119-81 blowout in Game 6.

While Hank is high on the Garden win, he wasn't as complementary toward the venue itself. According to him, the legendary arena doesn't quite live up to the hype once you're actually inside the building.

Void
May 12, 2025
#6297
HankHank

Madison Square Garden is the most overrated venue in sports

The garden is the most overrated venue in sports.

The quality of a sports venue is inherently subjective.

Max, however, wasn't letting the Celtics' victory go unchallenged. He spent his vacation deep-diving into "Stat Hole" analytics to prove that Tatum isn't the superstar Boston fans think he is. The debate got heated quickly as Max tried to use defensive rating numbers that Big Cat and PFT pointed out he didn't actually understand.

Void
May 12, 2025
#6299
MaxMax

Jayson Tatum is not a superstar

Jason Tatum is not a superstar... He didn't play on the Olympic team. He didn't play.

Whether a player is a 'superstar' is subjective, though most analysts consider a First-Team All-NBA player on a title contender to be one.
Void
May 12, 2025
#28249
MaxMax

Joel Embiid and Jayson Tatum are essentially the same playoff player.

Embiid and Tatum are the same player. Their fourth quarter numbers are exactly the same. Their offensive rating is exactly the same... They're the same playoff player.

This is a subjective comparison based on Max's interpretation of career playoff statistics.

Big Cat has his own strict criteria for what makes a superstar, and it's a very exclusive club that doesn't involve many people currently playing in the second round.

Void
May 12, 2025
#6302
Big CatBig Cat

There are only four true superstars in the NBA: Jokic, Giannis, Luka, and the aging veterans

I have like four superstars in the whole league... so it's Jokic, it's Giannis, it's Luka, and then it's, there's like the aging group of superstars that's like Steph, LeBron, KD. It's not much. I don't go Superstar to me is if you said their name like to your mom or someone on the street, they would immediately be like, yeah, of course I know who that is.

Superstar status is a matter of opinion and definitions vary.

Rachel Nichols joined the show to give some actual expert perspective on the NBA chaos. She broke down the Giannis rumors, the Thunder's young legs, and why the Celtics are still her pick to lift the trophy when the dust settles.

Loss
May 12, 2025
#6310
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Celtics will win the NBA Championship

Before the season I picked the Boston Celtics. With the Boston Celtics down two to one in this series, I still pick the Boston Celtics... they're the best complete team and they just won last year.

The Celtics were eliminated in the second round by the Knicks in 6 games. The Oklahoma City Thunder won the 2025 NBA Championship.

She also got into the LeBron James contract situation. With the Lakers needing more depth to actually compete in the West, Rachel thinks the King might need to take a page out of the Tom Brady playbook if he wants to catch MJ in the ring department.

Void
May 12, 2025
#6309
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

LeBron James should take significantly less money to win another championship ring

If it were me, I would say I will take significantly less, as less as it helps basically to make sure that we get other people in here who can help us win. Because here's the thing, you can't buy a championship ring after you retire all that money... He's not gonna feel any difference in his life.

Whether he 'should' take a pay cut is an opinion.

Over in the NHL, PFT is officially in his feelings about the Capitals. After a rough weekend against the Hurricanes, he's entered the "must-win" phase of the postseason. He's worried about Ovie looking his age and the fact that he might have to watch his season end in person on Thursday.

Open
May 12, 2025
#28253
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Monday night's game against the Hurricanes is a must-win for the Capitals.

This is a must win. Monday is a must win. And we're one and one in must win games in the postseason.

Depends on the game outcome on Monday night.

NFL news hit the wire with Derek Carr announcing his retirement. While most people are indifferent, Big Cat is genuinely sad to lose a guy who provided so much "Philip Rivers-lite" entertainment. We also saw Anthony Richardson get a massive back tattoo of a roulette wheel, which led to a discussion on the toughness of being sedated for ink.

Void
May 12, 2025·NFL News
#6307
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Men should not be sedated when getting a tattoo

I have a take. And that's if you get sedated for, you shouldn't get sedated for a tattoo as a man... I would never get sedated for a tattoo.

Subjective opinion on personal conduct.

Who's Back of the week featured the return of Elizabeth Holmes and her blood-testing startups, and the Rockies firing Bud Black after a 21-0 shellacking. Big Cat isn't buying the move as a fix for the franchise, mostly because the man at the top is still there.

Void
May 12, 2025·Who's Back
#28256
Big CatBig Cat

The Rockies firing Bud Black won't change anything because owner Dick Monfort is the real problem.

The Rockies fired Bud Black... the owner, Dick Monfort, being like, 'we're all trying to find out how this happened.' It's you, dude. You're the piece of shit.

Subjective opinion on team management and ownership.

We wrapped things up with a legendary Jordon of the Week segment after Pablo Torre's deep dive into the Jordon Hudson/Bill Belichick saga. Between the Underdog bikini commercial stories and the alleged UNC ban, she is officially the girl boss of the year. To top it all off, Max handed out gifts from a Hawaiian farmer's market, including a bookmark for Big Cat that was essentially a homework assignment.

Enjoy the cheese steaks, Jordon.

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More Takes

Win
May 12, 2025
#6308
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

I gave my NBA MVP vote to Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.

I actually voted for Shai. And it was a very, very, very hard vote... The Thunder had 18 more wins than the Nuggets. Right. At some point I don't always vote for the guy who's the highest in the standings, but at some point that matters.

She is reporting on her own official ballot entry.
Loss
May 12, 2025
#28248
MaxMax

The Celtics probably aren't going to lose another game for the rest of the Playoffs.

Celtics probably aren't gonna lose the game the rest of the Playoffs.

The Celtics lost four more games in the playoffs after this take, being eliminated by the Knicks 4-2 in the second round. They lost Games 1, 2, 4, and 6.
Void
May 12, 2025
#6306
Big CatBig Cat

Running a marathon in six hours does not count as finishing a marathon.

People do run marathons in like six hours and then they, and they, and then they post on Instagram... No you didn't. Six hour marathon is not doing it.

This is a subjective gatekeeping opinion on athletic achievement.
Win
May 12, 2025
#28250
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I don't see the Warriors winning another game in this series without Steph Curry.

I don't see [the Warriors] winning another game without Steph. But it could happen if [Jimmy Butler] does the J But thing.

The Warriors did not win another game without Steph Curry. After Curry was injured in Game 1 (which the Warriors won), the Timberwolves won four straight games to eliminate the Warriors 4-1 in the series.
Void
May 12, 2025
#28251
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It feels like the Thunder are effectively up 3-1 in their series against the Nuggets.

That [Nuggets Thunder series] to me feels like it's... it feels like three One thunder right now.

Vibe scores are subjective interpretations of momentum.
Loss
May 12, 2025
#6304
Big CatBig Cat

The Nuggets will win the series against the Thunder

I think it's correct score. You think so? I think it's two Two... 'cause I think it's, they, the way the Nuggets have won their two games has been very like we're a team that knows how to do this whereas the thunder cannot... championship DNA deserves two wins in this game.

The Thunder defeated the Nuggets in 7 games in the second round of the 2025 NBA Playoffs. The Nuggets did not win the series.
Loss
May 12, 2025
#28252
MaxMax

The Knicks will beat the Celtics in six games.

Celtics probably aren't gonna lose a game the rest of the Playoffs... [but] Nixon six.

The Knicks beat the Celtics 4-2, but then lost to the Pacers 4-2 in the Eastern Conference Finals. The Knicks did not win the title.
Loss
May 12, 2025
#28254
Big CatBig Cat

The Jets won't win their series against the Stars because Connor Hellebuyck is terrible on the road.

The Jets aren't gonna win this series 'cause Hellebuyck on the road stinks. He gave up five goals. He's just not good on the road.

The Jets (Winnipeg) lost the series to the Stars 4-2, but not because of Hellebuyck's road play being the sole factor. The Stars won the series legitimately, but the Jets did lose as predicted.
Void
May 12, 2025·NFL News
#28255
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons might trade Kirk Cousins to the Saints because they aren't scared of him hurting them as an opponent.

There could be a chance that that phone gets picked up [by the Saints] 'cause [the Falcons] are like, 'Hey, he's not gonna hurt us.'

Trade outcomes are speculative and subjective in nature.
Win
May 12, 2025
#28257
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Oklahoma City Thunder have the most assets to trade for Giannis Antetokounmpo if he becomes available.

I think the Thunder actually have the most [assets] of all. If [Giannis Antetokounmpo] becomes available, those GMs that have been keeping their picks, they're gonna pull the trigger.

The Thunder's draft pick assets are objectively among the highest in the NBA.
Void
May 12, 2025
#28258
Rachel NicholsRachel Nichols

The Lakers will have to trade Austin Reaves if they want the high-level players needed to surround LeBron James with a contender.

They're gonna have to trade Austin Reaves if they want the level of guys around [LeBron James] that they need. Because right now, [opponents] get to choose which one you go through because they don't defend at the level that you need.

Subjective opinion on roster building and defensive value.

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