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Richard Jefferson Part 1

Wednesday, September 20, 201711 takes

Kevin Durant is a twitter troll and Robert Griffin is going on twitter rants and we're here to help ( - ). Jam Packed Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ) . Cleveland Cavaliers Forward Richard Jefferson joins the show to talk about the NBA Finals, Lebron's alleged HGH use (by us) and Lebron/Kyrie break up ( - ). Segments include spinzone Dwight Howard, trouble in paradise Cowboys, Embrace Debate Martavis Bryant and is Eli still Elite, Thoughts and prayers NBA Owners and Guys on Chicks Buy Pete Frates Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/Ice-Bucket-Challenge-Frates-against/dp/1512600962

Recap

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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
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Kevin Durant is an internet troll and a disturbed individual

[Kevin Durant] is an internet troll, but I think more important than that, he is a disturbed individual. And this most recent spur of activity that he's been doing from getting caught responding to himself to his apologies that he's been issuing... I've swung 360 degrees.

The sentiment that KD's burner account saga was 'disturbed' or at least highly unusual became a consensus view in sports media.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
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Jason Garrett is only the Cowboys coach because he never says no to Jerry Jones

I'm pretty sure that Jason Garrett is only in place because he doesn't say no to Jerry Jones. So Jerry Jones is actually calling all these plays. And Jason Garrett, he pets them after every game. He's like, 'Jimmy used to always talk back to me.'

While speculative, it was a widely held belief during the Garrett era. Garrett lasted until 2019, consistently viewed as Jerry's protégé.

Hot Seat Cool Throne

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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017·Hot Seat/Cool Throne
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Big CatBig Cat

Ben McAdoo is officially not a football guy

I am officially, here's me, a rare thing done on Pardon My Take... I'm here to apologize. Ben McAdoo is not a football guy. Firmly not. The punch the kangaroo in the face stunt, that's when I knew he was not a football guy. That slick back hair and the quarter length sleeve jumper... You can't look like an asshole when you get beat on Monday Night Football.

McAdoo was fired shortly after this (December 2017) and became a punchline for his tenure with the Giants, validating the 'not a football guy' label in the PMT universe.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017·Hot Seat/Cool Throne
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Big CatBig Cat

I am firmly anti-Tony Romo as a broadcaster because he provides too many spoilers

I'm fucking sick of everyone saying how great Tony Romo is... It's impressive that he calls plays, but I don't really want to know what's coming. It's a spoiler. He's literally doing in real time spoilers right in my face. And everyone's like, Tony Romo, such a breath of fresh air. I am firmly in the anti-Tony Romo until people just cool down a little about it.

Broadcasting quality is subjective, but the general public sentiment eventually did 'cool down' on Romo years later, though for different reasons.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017·Hot Seat/Cool Throne
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Tony Romo is driving NFL ratings down by spoiling the games

I think he's driving the ratings down because you're not going to go... People turn off the TV right as he says [the play]. They know what's going to happen. It's like right when Napster came out, people stopped going to the record store and buying CDs. Why would you buy the cow if you can get the milk for free from Tony?

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NFL ratings actually remained strong and Romo was considered a draw for CBS for several years. There is no evidence he drove ratings down.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017·Hot Seat/Cool Throne
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Big CatBig Cat

No fat football coach has ever won the Super Bowl

It is scientific fact. No fat football coach has ever won the Super Bowl. Think about it. Parcells was skinnier. John Madden was a lot skinnier. Every football guy gets fatter after they retire... Parcells was actually kind of in football guy shape. I'm saying no fat coach. That's why Andy Reid's probably losing all this weight because he's like, fuck, I got to get in shape.

Andy Reid, often cited by the show as 'fat', eventually won multiple Super Bowls (LIV, LVII, LVIII). Even by Big Cat's relative standards, Reid remained a large man, making this take incorrect.

Interview

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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
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LeBron James is the hardest working player I have ever been around

LeBron is the hardest working guy that I've ever been around. And I've played with Dirk, Tim Duncan, Steph Curry, Jason Kidd... the amount of time that he takes on his body... i'm just saying when I look at how hard the guy works, then I think a lot of that has to do with why he has avoided injuries.

LeBron's longevity and investment in his body (reportedly $1.5M+ a year) is well-documented and widely accepted as the reason for his extended prime.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
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LeBron James is the best player of our generation

LeBron to me is the best player of our generation. LeBron is the best player that I've ever played against so over my 17 years in this league. But it's weird because he is the best player I've ever played with. I played with Tim Duncan, I played with Jason Kidd... I've seen Tim do some absurd shit. Jay Kidd I got to see every day... but LeBron is the best.

Whether LeBron is the best is subjective, but he is universally ranked as one of the top two players in NBA history.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
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Steph Curry's comments about the Cavs' locker room smelling like champagne were disrespectful

That's why Steph made those comments about, 'oh, I hope their locker room still smells like champagne.' He said that after they won the first championship and they beat Cleveland in game six. And it was kind of a shot. It's a little disrespectful to say that. I love Steph, I don't know if he meant it to be really disrespectful, but yeah, you say that, it's like, 'hey, it was a good win.'

This is a subjective interpretation of a quote's intent, but it reflects the genuine tension between those two teams at the time.
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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017
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NBA players are unfairly criticized for moving teams compared to teams trading players

Kairi [Kyrie], what Boston did to Isaiah [Thomas], you know, it's just a part of our job... and yes it personally connected and it hurts at times. But when players decide to leave in free agency, it's 'let's burn a jersey.' No, this guy we gave you... when KD decided to go and do what he wanted to do with Golden State... we aren't allowed to do it without being criticized. But team can trade the players. They can play chess with us as much as they want.

The sentiment of 'player empowerment' and the critique of team loyalty became a massive talking point in the years following this interview.

Embrace Debate

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Take Slip·Sep 20, 2017·Embrace Debate
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Big CatBig Cat

Eli Manning has proven that luck exists in life

Eli Manning is so funny. His streak of consecutive games... it's just because he just goes down. He literally goes down every time that someone's even close to him, and that's why he gets to play every game... Eli has proven that luck exists in life. Some people are very, very lucky, and some people aren't. And he's a Manning.

The debate over Eli's 'Elite' status and Hall of Fame credentials is one of the most polarized in sports. Big Cat firmly falls on the 'lucky/not elite' side.