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Richard Jefferson Part 1

Wednesday, September 20, 201714 takes

Kevin Durant is a twitter troll and Robert Griffin is going on twitter rants and we're here to help ( - ). Jam Packed Hot Seat/Cool Throne ( - ) . Cleveland Cavaliers Forward Richard Jefferson joins the show to talk about the NBA Finals, Lebron's alleged HGH use (by us) and Lebron/Kyrie break up ( - ). Segments include spinzone Dwight Howard, trouble in paradise Cowboys, Embrace Debate Martavis Bryant and is Eli still Elite, Thoughts and prayers NBA Owners and Guys on Chicks Buy Pete Frates Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/Ice-Bucket-Challenge-Frates-against/dp/1512600962

Richard Jefferson on LeBron, Cavs/Warriors, and Bad Tattoos

The internet is currently a dark and lonely place for Kevin Durant, and Big Cat and PFT Commenter are here to help him through his mental breakdown. After KD got caught using burner accounts to defend his honor against random eggs on Twitter, the guys have decided to flip the script.

Void
Sep 20, 2017
#2918
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is an internet troll and a disturbed individual

[Kevin Durant] is an internet troll, but I think more important than that, he is a disturbed individual. And this most recent spur of activity that he's been doing from getting caught responding to himself to his apologies that he's been issuing... I've swung 360 degrees.

The sentiment that KD's burner account saga was 'disturbed' or at least highly unusual became a consensus view in sports media.

While the rest of the world is mocking the Finals MVP for arguing with teenagers, PFT Commenter actually found a silver lining in the prose of those burner tweets.

Void
Sep 20, 2017
#23415
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Kevin Durant is the best writer of anyone who tweets about the NBA

KD is actually probably the best writer of anybody that tweets about the NBA.

Subjective opinion on prose quality in tweets.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Ben McAdoo is officially on the Hot Seat, not just for the Giants' abysmal performance, but for a haircut that screams "I am trying to distract you from my terrible play-calling." Big Cat and Hank are finally in agreement that the slicked-back look combined with a kangaroo-punching motivational stunt is the death knell for any coach's credibility.

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Big CatBig Cat

Ben McAdoo is officially not a football guy

I am officially, here's me, a rare thing done on Pardon My Take... I'm here to apologize. Ben McAdoo is not a football guy. Firmly not. The punch the kangaroo in the face stunt, that's when I knew he was not a football guy. That slick back hair and the quarter length sleeve jumper... You can't look like an asshole when you get beat on Monday Night Football.

McAdoo was fired shortly after this (December 2017) and became a punchline for his tenure with the Giants, validating the 'not a football guy' label in the PMT universe.
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HankHank

You cannot be a bad football coach and have slicked-back hair like Ben McAdoo

My other hot seat was Ben McAdoo's hair. You can't be bad and have hair like that... That slick back hair and the quarter length sleeve jumper was just such a bad... You can't look like an asshole when you get beat on Monday Night Football.

The Giants went 3-13 and McAdoo was fired mid-season, making his 'look' especially vulnerable to criticism.

Moving to the college ranks, Matt Rhule is feeling the heat at Baylor. PFT Commenter has already seen the writing on the wall after the fake Oklahoma drill and the "I slept on my office floor" press release.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Baylor coach Matt Rhule will be fired by the end of the season and replaced by Lane Kiffin

At the end of the season, this guy [Matt Rhule] gets fired... It's Lane Kiffin's destiny to take over the Baylor program.

Matt Rhule was not fired; he stayed at Baylor for three seasons before going to the NFL. Lane Kiffin did not take over Baylor.

On the Cool Throne, Big Cat is taking a controversial stand against the most beloved man in sports media: Tony Romo. While the rest of America is swooning over Romo predicting plays before they happen, Big Cat is calling it for what it is—spoilers.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

I am firmly anti-Tony Romo as a broadcaster because he provides too many spoilers

I'm fucking sick of everyone saying how great Tony Romo is... It's impressive that he calls plays, but I don't really want to know what's coming. It's a spoiler. He's literally doing in real time spoilers right in my face. And everyone's like, Tony Romo, such a breath of fresh air. I am firmly in the anti-Tony Romo until people just cool down a little about it.

Broadcasting quality is subjective, but the general public sentiment eventually did 'cool down' on Romo years later, though for different reasons.

To wrap up the segment, Big Cat shared a scientific theory regarding the physical fitness of championship-winning coaches. He’s looking at you, Andy Reid.

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Big CatBig Cat

No fat football coach has ever won the Super Bowl

It is scientific fact. No fat football coach has ever won the Super Bowl. Think about it. Parcells was skinnier. John Madden was a lot skinnier. Every football guy gets fatter after they retire... Parcells was actually kind of in football guy shape. I'm saying no fat coach. That's why Andy Reid's probably losing all this weight because he's like, fuck, I got to get in shape.

Andy Reid, often cited by the show as 'fat', eventually won multiple Super Bowls (LIV, LVII, LVIII). Even by Big Cat's relative standards, Reid remained a large man, making this take incorrect.

Richard Jefferson Part 1

NBA Champion Richard Jefferson joined the show for a two-part interview that actually lived up to the hype. He addressed the elephant in the room immediately: his infamous shoulder tattoo. Apparently, it was a 17-year-old mistake fueled by Mike Bibby and a playful Toys R Us font.

When he wasn't defending his ink, Jefferson gave some incredible insight into what it’s like playing with LeBron James. Despite the guys' constant "allegations" about LeBron’s longevity, Jefferson insists it’s purely the result of an insane work ethic.

Win
Sep 20, 2017
#2924
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

LeBron James is the hardest working player I have ever been around

LeBron is the hardest working guy that I've ever been around. And I've played with Dirk, Tim Duncan, Steph Curry, Jason Kidd... the amount of time that he takes on his body... i'm just saying when I look at how hard the guy works, then I think a lot of that has to do with why he has avoided injuries.

LeBron's longevity and investment in his body (reportedly $1.5M+ a year) is well-documented and widely accepted as the reason for his extended prime.
Void
Sep 20, 2017
#2925
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

LeBron James is the best player of our generation

LeBron to me is the best player of our generation. LeBron is the best player that I've ever played against so over my 17 years in this league. But it's weird because he is the best player I've ever played with. I played with Tim Duncan, I played with Jason Kidd... I've seen Tim do some absurd shit. Jay Kidd I got to see every day... but LeBron is the best.

Whether LeBron is the best is subjective, but he is universally ranked as one of the top two players in NBA history.

Jefferson also got real about the tension between the Cavs and the Warriors. While the media loves to frame it as a hatred between superstars, he explained that the real intensity comes from the fans and the realization that for the first time all year, they might actually lose.

Win
Sep 20, 2017
#23418
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

The Cleveland-Golden State rivalry is the only time NBA fans actually feel vulnerable

When Golden State shows up in our building, that is the first time all year that you're like... You can feel the anxiety of 20 something thousand people... to me, that's an energy that you only get in the NBA finals, like where you literally feel vulnerable for the first time in months.

This describes a specific period in NBA history that is widely remembered for this exact intensity.

He did admit, however, that some of the barbs thrown from the Golden State side didn't sit well with the locker room in Cleveland.

Void
Sep 20, 2017
#2926
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

Steph Curry's comments about the Cavs' locker room smelling like champagne were disrespectful

That's why Steph made those comments about, 'oh, I hope their locker room still smells like champagne.' He said that after they won the first championship and they beat Cleveland in game six. And it was kind of a shot. It's a little disrespectful to say that. I love Steph, I don't know if he meant it to be really disrespectful, but yeah, you say that, it's like, 'hey, it was a good win.'

This is a subjective interpretation of a quote's intent, but it reflects the genuine tension between those two teams at the time.

Around the Horn

Before letting Jefferson go, the guys discussed the Kyrie Irving for Isaiah Thomas trade. Jefferson pointed out the hypocrisy of the "Loyalty" conversation in sports, specifically how fans react when players take control of their own careers versus when teams treat players like disposable assets.

Void
Sep 20, 2017
#2927
Richard JeffersonRichard Jefferson

NBA players are unfairly criticized for moving teams compared to teams trading players

Kairi [Kyrie], what Boston did to Isaiah [Thomas], you know, it's just a part of our job... and yes it personally connected and it hurts at times. But when players decide to leave in free agency, it's 'let's burn a jersey.' No, this guy we gave you... when KD decided to go and do what he wanted to do with Golden State... we aren't allowed to do it without being criticized. But team can trade the players. They can play chess with us as much as they want.

The sentiment of 'player empowerment' and the critique of team loyalty became a massive talking point in the years following this interview.

To finish the show, the guys took a look at the Cowboys' struggles, with PFT Commenter theorizing that Jason Garrett’s job security is directly tied to his willingness to be Jerry Jones's personal pet.

Void
Sep 20, 2017
#2928
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jason Garrett is only the Cowboys coach because he never says no to Jerry Jones

I'm pretty sure that Jason Garrett is only in place because he doesn't say no to Jerry Jones. So Jerry Jones is actually calling all these plays. And Jason Garrett, he pets them after every game. He's like, 'Jimmy used to always talk back to me.'

While speculative, it was a widely held belief during the Garrett era. Garrett lasted until 2019, consistently viewed as Jerry's protégé.

And finally, the Eli Manning "Elite" debate was re-litigated. Big Cat noted that Eli’s legendary durability might just be a survival instinct kicking in every time a defensive lineman breathes in his direction.

Win
Sep 20, 2017
#2929
Big CatBig Cat

Eli Manning's consecutive games streak only exists because he goes down as soon as anyone gets close to him

Eli Manning is so funny. His streak of consecutive games... it's just because he just goes down. He literally goes down every time that someone's even close to him, and that's why he gets to play every game... Eli has proven that luck exists in life.

Eli Manning did maintain a historic consecutive starts streak (210 games), though the reason for it is subjective.

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