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Rob Gronkowski, Bart Scott, Week 14 Picks And Preview + Recap Of The 24 Hour Stream

Friday, December 8, 202317 takes

The Patriots are back and the Steelers are out of the playoffs. Jon Rahm to the LIV and Soto is a Yankee. We talk a little NBA Tournament (-). Week 14 Picks and Preview and the wild Sean McDermott revelation about 9/11 is discussed (-). Rob Gronkowski joins the show to talk about the LA Bowl, does he miss football, favorite memories, having kids and more (-). Bart Scott joins the show to talk hot takes, what teams impress him this year, the Butt Fumble, beefs and more (-). We finish with a recap of the 24 hour stream from Max and Hank (-).

Rob Gronkowski and Bart Scott on Patriots Drama, 9/11 Speeches, and Week 14 Picks

The vibes in the studio were a mix of high energy and total exhaustion as Max and Hank rolled into hour 18 of their 24-hour stream. While the boys were busy keeping a balloon in the air to earn an early exit, Big Cat and PFT broke down a wild week in the NFL that started with the Patriots actually winning a football game. Bailey Zappy looked like a functional human being for thirty minutes, effectively ruining the Patriots' draft position and dealing a massive blow to the Steelers' playoff hopes. Big Cat wasn't shedding any tears for Pittsburgh, though.

Loss
Dec 8, 2023
#10973
Big CatBig Cat

The Steelers are not a playoff team

The Steelers are bad. And I'm, listen, I don't think the Steelers are a playoff team. They shouldn't be. They're now officially outside of the playoffs, which is good for football.

The Steelers actually did make the playoffs as a Wild Card team in 2023 despite Big Cat's claim that they shouldn't/wouldn't be there.

The conversation shifted to the NBA's new shiny toy, the In-Season Tournament. While some purists are still confused by the brightly colored courts, Big Cat is all in on the spectacle and the fact that we actually have meaningful basketball in December.

Win
Dec 8, 2023
#10974
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA In-Season Tournament is a win for Adam Silver

The in season Tournament has been very fun. It is a win for Adam Silver 'cause it's games that no one would care about. And now we care about him. Right. Like I, I watched him, I was like, this is fun.

General consensus was that the first IST was a success in terms of viewership and player intensity.

Week 14 Picks and the McDermott Revelation

The Week 14 preview took a hard left turn when a report surfaced about Bills head coach Sean McDermott using the 9/11 hijackers as a motivational example of "communication" back in 2019. The guys were stunned by the timing and the sheer absurdity of the tactic. Big Cat, who had spent weeks "glazing" the Bills as a sleeper Super Bowl pick, officially hopped off the bandwagon.

Win
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#29149
Big CatBig Cat

The Bills are incapable of winning a Super Bowl under Sean McDermott after the 9/11 motivational speech revelation

Everything I said about the bills winning the super Bowl I'm throwing out... I'm gonna say you can't win a super Bowl if, if that happened. I'm gonna agree with that. I'm gonna go, you know what? So everything we said, we we're no more glazing... Glaze has been removed on this podcast.

The Bills did not win the Super Bowl in 2023.

As for the actual games, PFT is keeping a close eye on the Ravens. Even with Lamar Jackson dealing with his annual "illness," the loss of Mark Andrews looms large. PFT thinks the market might be overlooking just how vital the tight end is to that system.

Void
Dec 8, 2023
#10975
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Mark Andrews is to the Ravens what Travis Kelce is to the Chiefs

I feel like Mark Andrews is to the Ravens, what Travis Kelce is to the Chiefs. Yeah. He's not as good as Travis Kelce. He's still very, very good. One of the best. He's baby Kelce.

Subjective comparison of value to their respective offenses.

On the other side of that matchup, the Rams are looking like a team that could make some noise if they keep things close against Baltimore.

Win
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#29146
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Rams are a 'for real' team if they cover the +7.5 spread against the Ravens

I like the Rams actually to cover on this. I think the Rams are, they're sneaky. This is a Rams... we've got enough talent... I would say if they cover. Yeah. 'cause it's seven and a half. So if they lose by seven, I'm gonna say the Rams possibly still for real at that point.

The Ravens won 37-31, so the Rams covered the +7.5 spread.

In the NFC South, the "Saints stink" narrative reached a fever pitch. Between the Superdome losing its luster and the offense looking stagnant, the guys are wondering if a change at QB is the only way forward.

Win
Dec 8, 2023
#10978
Big CatBig Cat

The Superdome is no longer a home field advantage for the Saints

The dome is not the dome. Yeah. It's, it goes, the dome has been aging along with a lot of the roster. Right... they're 0 and 5 against the spread this year at home... five and 15 against the spread at home since 2021.

The Saints' home ATS record remained poor throughout the season, supporting the claim that the 'Dome' advantage isn't what it used to be.
Void
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#29148
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Taysom Hill gives the Saints the best chance to win as the starting quarterback

I made the switch last week where I thought to myself like, Taysom [Hill] as a starting quarterback, I think he gives you the best chance to win right now if you have him. Yeah. But he's so hard to plan for.

Subjective opinion on team strategy.

Gronk and Bart Scott Bring the Heat

Rob Gronkowski joined the show to talk about hosting the LA Bowl and his transition into the media world. While he’s enjoying the analyst life, he admitted that watching every game is actually harder than playing in them. When asked about the future of his old coach, Gronk thinks Bill isn't going anywhere just yet.

Loss
Dec 8, 2023
#10987
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

Bill Belichick will stay with the Patriots next year

I truly believe that he will be here next year. But if he does go to another team like the Washington Commanders, I mean it doesn't really, you know, ri rival with the New England Patriots... But I just don't see that happening after this year. I think he'll definitely have another year to redeem himself.

Belichick and the Patriots mutually parted ways after the season in January 2024.

He also gave a massive shout-out to a certain rookie in Detroit who is currently tearing up the league. Gronk sees a lot of himself in the way Sam LaPorta attacks the game.

Win
Dec 8, 2023
#10984
Rob GronkowskiRob Gronkowski

Sam LaPorta is the player most similar to my style of play

I'm gonna go with the guy from Detroit right now. He's a rookie, Sam La Porta... He's fast, he's got great hands on the run. He breaks tackles as well... and he is willing to block as well. I won't say he brings it to the table like I do in the block game, but I would say he brings, he's the most similar guy that's up and coming.

LaPorta had a historic rookie season, setting records for tight end receptions and being a key part of the Lions' deep playoff run.

Later, Bart Scott stopped by to provide the perspective of a certified Patriots hater. Bart didn't hold back on Belichick or the current state of the New York Jets. He also offered a legendary defense of Joe Flacco, though he admitted it took a specific throw for him to stop using a certain derogatory nickname for the Super Bowl MVP.

Void
Dec 8, 2023
#20169
Bart ScottBart Scott

Stopped calling Flacco 'Fucko' after watching him throw a perfect 15-yard out — his arm strength is one of the strongest in NFL history

I used to call [Flacco] Fucko, that was my nickname for him. But that's when I stopped calling him [Fucko] — when he threw a 15-yard out, which is the hardest throw to make. It's the farthest ball. And he threw it on point. I stopped calling him Fucko. [Flacco] has one of the strongest arms in the history of football, in my opinion.

Bart Scott's firsthand account of being converted from a Flacco doubter to a believer. The 'one of the strongest arms in history' claim is a strong opinion from someone who played against him.

Bart also predicted a rough transition for the post-Brady era in New England, suggesting the fan base hasn't even begun to feel the true pain of mediocrity.

Void
Dec 8, 2023
#10989
Bart ScottBart Scott

Fans will start to hate Bill Belichick as they realize the Patriots' era was more about Tom Brady than him

Pretty soon Bill Belichick is entering the sift Lord type of realm where I think that fans are gonna start to hate him. They realize that the Patriot wave was more about, you know, Tom Brady than it was him.

Subjective opinion on legacy and fan perception.

To wrap things up, the show featured a recap of the 24-hour stream highlights, including Hank's questionable treatment of PFT's dog, Blake, during a high-stakes game of knee hockey and the revelation of Max's "BMCs."

It turns out keeping a balloon up for an hour is a lot harder when Jerry is chasing you with a leaf blower.

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More Takes

Win
Dec 8, 2023
#10982
Big CatBig Cat

You can't win a Super Bowl if you used the 9/11 hijackers for motivation

I'm gonna say you can't win a super Bowl if, if that happened. I'm gonna agree with that. I'm gonna go, you know what? So everything we said, we we're no more glazing. We have not glazed anymore. Pardon, My, Take. We're removing the glaze.

The Bills were eliminated in the Divisional Round by the Chiefs, failing to win the Super Bowl.
Loss
Dec 8, 2023
#10977
Big CatBig Cat

The Colts will win 10 games this year

I think the Colts are gonna have 10 wins this year. You think? You think Sean Peyton ever did a bounty on a punter.

The Colts finished the 2023 season with a 9-8 record, just missing the 10-win mark.
Win
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#29147
Big CatBig Cat

I'm betting on Will Anderson Jr. to win Defensive Rookie of the Year

I'm also gonna sprinkle on Brian [Branch], if the Texans get to the playoffs, I think that they'll clean up on some of these awards... I'll sprinkle on Will. I think Will might win it.

Will Anderson Jr. won the 2023 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year award.
Win
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#10980
Big CatBig Cat

Zach Wilson's return will provide a spark for the Jets, if only because the other options were so much worse

I think the Jets... Zach Wilson is a spark. I do. I think he's the spark... I keep thinking about it more and more and it's like... everyone's gonna say Texans minus three and a half is the easiest bet. Zach Wilson might be a spark.

Zach Wilson threw for 301 yards and 2 TDs in a 30-6 win over the Texans that Sunday, arguably providing the spark Big Cat predicted.
Loss
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#29150
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The 49ers vs. Seahawks spread of 10.5 is a 'trap' and Seattle will cover

I have talked myself into the Seahawks being frisky... I like the Seahawks to cover in this game. 10 and a half... I think you're getting trapped by the Niners... they should not be 10 and a half point underdogs.

The 49ers won 28-16, a 12-point margin, meaning Seattle did not cover the +10.5 spread.
Void
Dec 8, 2023·Picks
#29151
Big CatBig Cat

The Eagles and Cowboys matchup will be a 'battle of fraud defenses'

I also, I think this is the battle of fraud defenses... In five games this year against [bad] teams, [the Cowboys have] given up eight points per game. And the other seven games are giving up 27 points... I love this over.

Subjective label on the defenses, though the implied 'over' prediction was incorrect as the game totaled 46 points against a 51.5 line.

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