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10X Pro Bowler Joe Thomas + 5X Pro Bowler Luke Kuechly

Friday, February 2, 201817 takes

Super Bowl 52 is almost here and we give our official preview and prediction plus our made up pro bets (-). Recap of the "Two Bills" 30 for 30 aka Football Guy Porn (-). Cleveland Browns Left Guard and 10X Pro Bowler Joe Thomas joins the show to talk about his career, what it's like playing for teams that haven't had a ton of success, his podcasting, and life in the NFL for linemen (-). 5X Luke Kuechly joins the show to talk about Football, Cam Newton's weird instagram posts, concussions, and skyline chili (-). Segments include hmmm for Cam Lebron to the Warriors (-), Dad to Dad for Tom Brady mouth kissing his son (-), Just chill out man for Demaurice Smith (-), That's enough internet for today (1:-), and the return of Jimbos (-).

Joe Thomas and Luke Kuechly on Wisconsin Beer, Cam's Hats, and Super Bowl 52

The vibes in Minneapolis are currently sitting at a steady "bone-chilling" as Super Bowl 52 approaches. Big Cat is rocking a sweatshirt because he forgot a coat, PFT’s feet are numb after a 300-yard walk, and the guys are hunkered down in the Bud Light Mansion to give their final words on the Eagles-Patriots matchup. While the world seems to think the Patriots will steamroll, Big Cat is looking at the trenches.

Win
Feb 2, 2018
#16976
Big CatBig Cat

I'm betting on the Eagles to cover the spread in Super Bowl 52

I'm actually going to bet on the Eagles. I think they're going to cover the spread. I really am banking that the Patriots are going to win and the Eagles are going to cover.

The Eagles won Super Bowl 52 outright (41-33), so they easily covered the spread.

PFT is slightly more conservative with the score, but he's eyeing a specific defender to disrupt Tom Brady’s rhythm.

Loss
Feb 2, 2018
#16980
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Fletcher Cox will be the Super Bowl MVP if the Eagles win

I wouldn't be shocked if there was a defensive MVP in this game. And if the Eagles win, I would put money on Fletcher Cox getting it.

Nick Foles won Super Bowl MVP.

The Two Bills and Football Guy Porn

Before the guests arrived, Big Cat and PFT took a moment to appreciate "The Two Bills" 30 for 30. It was pure football guy porn. Watching Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells interact is a masterclass in suppressed emotions. The highlight was easily the producer trying to get two men who have dedicated their lives to the "Wide Nine" and "A-gap blitzes" to show a shred of human affection.

Void
Feb 2, 2018
#29167
Big CatBig Cat

Bill Belichick and Bill Parcells are physically incapable of saying 'I love you'

The ESPN producer basically asking Bill [Belichick] and Bill [Parcells] to say I love you to each other, and they literally could not do it... football guys like those two are physically incapable of saying I love you.

Observations of their behavior in a documentary; largely a comedic commentary on their personalities.

They also established a new litmus test for identifying frauds in the coaching ranks. If a coach tries to win over the media with self-deprecating jokes about their home life, the guys are out on them immediately.

Void
Feb 2, 2018
#16985
Big CatBig Cat

Pete Carroll is a fake football guy because he makes 'my wife runs the house' jokes

Pete Carroll might be a fake football guy... In his press conference that they showed of him becoming the Patriots head coach, he immediately made a my wife runs the house joke. I think that's the go-to fake football guy anecdote. Because a real football guy doesn't even talk about family.

This is a subjective lifestyle assessment based on show lore.

Joe Thomas: Wisconsin's Finest

Cleveland Browns legend and future Hall of Famer Joe Thomas joined the show to discuss his legendary 10,000 consecutive snap streak and why he never left Cleveland despite the lean years.

Win
Feb 2, 2018
#16987
Big CatBig Cat

Joe Thomas is a future Hall of Famer

You're going to – I would say – I'm going to say it right now. You're going to go to the Hall of Fame.

Joe Thomas was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2023.

Big Cat, a fellow Wisconsin alum, got Joe to confirm the secret sauce behind the Badgers' ability to produce massive human beings for the offensive line.

Void
Feb 2, 2018
#29170
Joe ThomasJoe Thomas

The best offensive linemen are bred in Wisconsin because of the beer and cheese curds

You know, it's just the beer and the cheese curds, really. From the moment you're born, you're sitting in your high chair and your dad's giving you sips of his beer. All those carbs over time just add up to being fucking huge.

Comedic take on dietary habits vs. athletic development.

Joe also shared his thoughts on the Browns' future, specifically the quarterback position. He didn't hold back on his love for Josh Allen’s physical profile or the potential of landing a certain free agent from Washington.

Push
Feb 2, 2018
#16993
Joe ThomasJoe Thomas

Josh Allen is clearly the #1 pick because he looks great in shorts and has big hands

[Josh Allen] is tall. He's got big hands. He's got a cannon arm. Clearly, I'd take him number one... He also looks great in shorts. That's another thing about him. That's the most important. If he goes like this and you're like, 'wow, that guy's got a big hand', he's definitely a good quarterback.

Josh Allen was drafted #7, not #1 (Baker Mayfield was #1), but he became an elite NFL quarterback, making the 'shorts' evaluation accidentally legendary.
Loss
Feb 2, 2018
#16990
Joe ThomasJoe Thomas

Kirk Cousins would be a great fit in Cleveland

I think he's a really good quarterback. I think he'd be a great fit in Cleveland. And my sales pitch to Kirk is, Kirk, if you go 6-10 in Cleveland next year, they're going to put a statue outside the stadium of your face.

Kirk Cousins signed with the Minnesota Vikings in March 2018.

Luke Kuechly: Mobile Interview Legend

In a PMT first, the guys recorded their interview with Luke Kuechly while driving him between media appearances. Luke talked about the absurdity of Super Bowl media week, his love for Skyline Chili (which the guys rightfully called out as a prank on the city of Cincinnati), and the reality of NFL injuries. When the conversation turned to concussions, Luke gave a sobering look at the player’s responsibility in the protocol.

Void
Feb 2, 2018
#16994
Luke KuechlyLuke Kuechly

Players must be honest for concussion protocols to work in the NFL

A lot of it falls on players because you can pass a lot of that stuff, you know, sometimes, but if the player is not honest with the team official or the independent guy that's on the field, that's where the problems come into play.

This is a subjective assessment of a procedural system.

PFT also confronted Luke with some hard-hitting investigative journalism regarding the Panthers' PR staff potentially padding his tackle stats over the years.

Win
Feb 2, 2018
#29171
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Carolina Panthers have a habit of 'home cooking' stats to give Luke Kuechly more tackles

But you guys have a nasty habit of going back to the film and adding tackles to give you more credit for tackles. So in like 2014, you had like 210 tackles or some bullshit like that. It was actually like 160 before they went back to the film. And they gave you enough tackles to set the NFL record.

It is well-documented that team-issued tackle stats are often higher than official press box stats, and the Panthers were known for being generous with Kuechly.

LeBron to the Warriors and Dad to Dad

The show wrapped with a breakdown of the LeBron James to the Warriors rumors, which Big Cat sees as a masterclass in NBA power dynamics.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James considering a meeting with the Warriors is a savvy leverage move against the rest of the NBA

If he opens up the Warriors, it's like everyone's got to compete with that. Everyone's got to basically be like, 'yeah, LeBron, we'll go get every free agent you want'... So he just got instant leverage over everyone, which he already had, but now it's even more.

LeBron eventually signed with the Lakers; the Warriors meeting never happened or resulted in anything serious, but the move served its purpose as a media cycle dominant story.

Finally, the guys had to address the elephant in the room: Tom Brady kissing his son on the mouth for an uncomfortably long time in his new documentary. It was a moment that made even the most hardened football fans reach for the "Just Chill Out Man" button.

Void
Feb 2, 2018·Dad To Dad
#16998
Big CatBig Cat

Tom Brady kissing his son on the mouth was way too much

Tom Brady kisses his son on the mouth. And when, like, I mean kiss on the mouth, it's like pretty, pretty, pretty kiss. ... This was too much.

Subjective opinion on parenting/social norms.

If you're in Louisiana and see someone riding a seven-foot unicycle, please call the authorities and return it to Red Panda immediately.

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More Takes

Loss
Feb 2, 2018
#16978
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Patriots will win Super Bowl 52 with a score of 24-20

I'm going to go 24-20 Patriots. I think it's going to be a relatively low scoring game.

The Eagles won 41-33. PFT was wrong on the winner, the score margin, and the total points (under).
Loss
Feb 2, 2018
#16983
HankHank

The Patriots will win Super Bowl 52 by 10 or more points

I think this game is going to be in hand from beginning to end. Patriots are going to win by 10+. Bird in the hand. That's the old saying. 31-20.

The Patriots lost the game 41-33.
Loss
Feb 2, 2018
#29168
Joe ThomasJoe Thomas

My 10,000 consecutive snaps streak is proof I didn't practice or play hard enough to get injured

I think you're probably right. Didn't practice enough and definitely didn't play hard enough to get injured.

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Joe Thomas is widely considered one of the hardest workers and most durable players in NFL history; this is clearly a joke.
Void
Feb 2, 2018
#29169
Joe ThomasJoe Thomas

I stayed in Cleveland because winning a ring elsewhere would have felt hollow

Why didn't you want to just go somewhere to try to win a ring? And I'm like, it wouldn't have meant the same thing to me. It would have felt hollow. Like, just going to a team that, oh, I think they're probably the best team to win a championship... I want that ring, so I'm going to go deal with that.

A personal value judgment about his own career satisfaction.
Void
Feb 2, 2018
#16989
Joe ThomasJoe Thomas

The NFL should change the rule regarding hitting defenseless receivers below the knee

I think we need to change the rule on hitting defenseless receivers below the knee. You should be able to do it. I think you should be able to just crush them.

This is a subjective policy opinion.

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