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Baseball Legend Keith Hernandez + NBA Finals

Monday, June 4, 201823 takes

NBA Finals Game 2 and the Cavs are dead. JR Smith's hot seat gets hotter and Lebron's eye makes everyone want to puke ( - ). The Caps are a wagon and DC is feeling a Championship for the first time in forever ( - ). Who's back of the week including a stay woke on Melania Trump not being seen in 23 straight days ( - ). Mets Legend Keith Hernandez joins the show to talk about his new book, what it was like playing for the 86 Mets, his cat Hadji, and what baseball can improve today ( - ). Segments include Humans vs The Sun/Talking Tennis, Hockey Tough for Brandon Prust, PR 101 for Buffalo Wild Wings getting hacked, Hurt or injured Clay Matthers, and thoughts and prayers for Nick Saban.

Keith Hernandez on the '86 Mets, NBA Finals, and the Caps' Wagon

The NBA Finals are essentially over before they’ve even truly begun. After Game 2, Big Cat is ready to read the eulogy for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Between Steph Curry hitting circus shots and LeBron James sporting a blood-red eye that looks like a prolapsed canine eyelid, the vibes in Cleveland are at an all-time low.

Win
Jun 4, 2018
#4726
Big CatBig Cat

The Cleveland Cavaliers are dead

Today is Monday, June 4th and the Cleveland Cavaliers are dead. So, so dead.

The Warriors swept the Cavaliers 4-0 to win the 2018 NBA Finals.

While the Cavs are struggling, the fashion choices remain a major talking point. LeBron showed up in the suit shorts again, but PFT thinks the credit is being misallocated.

Void
Jun 4, 2018
#4730
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Draymond Green should get credit for the dress shorts look, not LeBron

Shorts are definitely back. But [LeBron] got co-opted by Draymond Green. Green showed up in some dress shorts, too. I think that's the new look. It's like ACDC chic. Draymond said that he should be getting credit for shorts, not LeBron.

Purely a matter of fashion opinion and credit for a short-lived trend.

It’s not just the fashion that’s broken; it’s the officiating. After the Game 1 disaster and a questionable Game 2, PFT is convinced the refs are the real stars of this postseason.

Void
Jun 4, 2018·NBA Finals
#28968
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The referees are taking the torch this postseason by being consistently bad

I think the torch goes to the referees. Yes, the refs were also bad. They take the torch from Kevin Durant. A combination of game one and two. They followed it up. At least they're consistent. They're consistently bad.

The quality of officiating is a matter of opinion.

The Caps are a Wagon

On the flip side of sports misery, the Washington Capitals are currently the strongest force in the universe. PFT is fully leaning into the ride, spraying champagne at bars and ignoring anyone who tells him to "act like he’s been there before." DC is starving for a title, and with the Caps stealing games on the road, the confidence is at an all-time high.

Win
Jun 4, 2018
#28965
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Capitals are a wagon and I am feeling very confident about them winning the Cup

The Caps stole one at home. They're a great road team. They're not a good home team. So they stole a game at home. I'm feeling very, very confident. I'm going to be down at Game 4 on Monday... The Caps, they're a wagon.

The Capitals defeated the Vegas Golden Knights in 5 games to win the 2018 Stanley Cup.

Beyond the joy for the fans, PFT is mostly enjoying the fact that this success has to be eating away at the soul of the city's most hated owner.

Void
Jun 4, 2018
#28966
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Dan Snyder is sitting somewhere pissed off that a DC sports team is actually winning a championship

What I really do like about this run that we're on is that Dan Snyder is sitting somewhere so pissed off. So, so mad that a sports team in Washington, D.C. is winning something.

This is a subjective psychological assessment of Dan Snyder's state of mind, which cannot be verified.

Keith Hernandez on 1986 and Life with Haji

Mets legend Keith Hernandez joined the show to discuss his new book, *I’m Keith Hernandez*. He’s a guy who lived the ultimate 80s New York lifestyle, but these days he’s more famous for carrying his Bengal cat, Haji, on his shoulder while getting the morning paper. Keith reflected on his career, from his formative years with the Cardinals to the iconic '86 Mets team that took over the city.

When the conversation turned to the modern game, Keith didn't hold back on why baseball feels different now. He has some theories on why the ball seems to be flying further than ever before.

Win
Jun 4, 2018
#4738
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

The MLB is likely 'juicing' balls by sewing stitches tighter to reduce air resistance

I've talked to Ron Darling... and he says the stitches are sewn tighter. They're not as elevated... Ronnie says when the ball leaves the bat, there's no seams to grab the air and the ball travels further. I never thought of that. And it makes perfect sense. They do other ways too. That little core there, they can make that thing like a rubber band as much as they want. But don't ever admit, throughout my playing day, there has always been talk of the ball's juiced and they want more home runs today. And the MLB will always deny it.

The 2019 MLB-commissioned study confirmed that the 2019 baseball (and previous years) had lower drag, partly due to seam height changes, leading to the home run surge.

He also thinks the obsession with velocity is ruining the art of the game. He wants to see pitchers actually navigate a lineup rather than just staring at the scoreboard to see if they hit 98 mph.

Void
Jun 4, 2018
#4735
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

Radar guns should be removed from baseball so pitchers actually pitch instead of just throwing hard

I would take the radar gun out. Pitchers watch. I talked to Jacob deGrom, and he said he looks up there, and if he's at 94, he wants to get to 95. You know they're watching and I think just take them off the board... Just so the pitchers would pitch instead of throw. Nothing better than a pitcher that knows how to go out and watch a guy throw a beautiful game.

This is a subjective opinion on the quality and style of the sport.

We also touched on the steroid era and the Hall of Fame. Keith was candid about the guys who cheated and how it affects the legacy of players who did things the right way.

Void
Jun 4, 2018
#4737
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

Steroid users who were caught should not be in the Hall of Fame

He's tainted. You're right. You shouldn't get in the Hall of Fame. Yes, I do [believe that]. If you're caught.

This remains the standard stance for many Hall of Fame voters, as evidenced by Bonds and Clemens remaining out of the Hall.

Who's Back and Segments

Who’s Back of the Week featured a deep dive into the 23-day disappearance of Melania Trump. Big Cat is fully on board with the conspiracy theories, mainly because it’s a brilliant way to distract the press.

Loss
Jun 4, 2018·Who's Back
#4734
Big CatBig Cat

Melania Trump's absence is a genius way to control the media narrative

I hope she's just it actually is genius. If I could totally see like President Trump being like, let's just have Melania never be shown in public again. Just so there's always like a conspiracy theory in my back pocket that can take like take control of the media narrative at any point.

Melania Trump reappeared in public shortly after this episode, on June 4, 2018, attending a White House event. Her absence was due to an embolization procedure for a kidney condition.

In other news, Pusha T officially ended Drake, the FBI is breakdancing in Denver, and Clay Matthews got his face broken by a softball. Big Cat thinks the Green Bay linebacker might be losing his fast-twitch muscles if he can't get a glove up against a slow-pitch lob.

Win
Big CatBig Cat

Clay Matthews might be over the hill because of his slow reaction time

I think Clay Matthews might be over the hill because his reaction time was really bad. It was pretty slow. Really slow. This was a softball... You should be able to get your glove up.

Clay Matthews had only 3.5 sacks in 2018, his lowest total to that point, and was released by the Packers after the season, suggesting Big Cat was somewhat prescient about his decline.

At least LeBron is eating an apple at the podium to keep the doctor away.

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Loss
Jun 4, 2018·NBA Finals
#4727
Big CatBig Cat

I think the Cavaliers will win at least one game at home in the Finals

I do think the Cavs will win a game at home. But that was like... When David West is hitting threes, when JaVale McGee and Sean Livingston go 11 for 1...

The Warriors won Games 3 and 4 in Cleveland, sweeping the series 4-0.
Loss
Jun 4, 2018·NBA Finals
#4728
Big CatBig Cat

Steph Curry could finally win Finals MVP to get the torch passed to him

But the big knock on Steph Curry was he was never the best guy in the finals when his teams won. And tonight he was the best guy for the Warriors. So now Steph Curry, could he finally get the torch passed to him for an offseason by winning an MVP?

Kevin Durant was named Finals MVP for the second consecutive year in 2018.
Win
Jun 4, 2018
#4729
Big CatBig Cat

Nothing short of injuries to Klay Thompson and Kevin Durant will allow the Cavs to win the series

When I say they're dead, I mean they could win a game, maybe even two games, but there's nothing short of like Klay Thompson and Kevin Durant both getting injured that would make the Cavs win this series.

The Warriors stayed relatively healthy and won the series easily.
Void
Jun 4, 2018
#4739
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jon Taffer is a curse on everyone

Well, there's definitely a Taffer curse. Yeah, Taffer's definitely a curse. It's a curse on everyone.

The Golden Knights lost the series after Taffer's appearance, jokingly 'confirming' the curse.
Win
Jun 4, 2018·Who's Back
#4731
HankHank

Pusha T killed Drake in their rap beef

So Pusha T killed Drake. Yes. Drake cannot stop. He's still going to come out with an album. We'll probably have some subtle shots, but I don't think he's going to come out with a full-on diss track.

Most hip-hop analysts and fans agree Pusha T won the 2018 beef. Drake never released a direct rebuttal diss track.
Void
Jun 4, 2018·Who's Back
#28967
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Drake doesn't have the bars to keep up with Pusha T in a rap beef

Drake doesn't have the bars... Slash Drake is also very scared. I'm just going to say this. Drake doesn't have the bars.

Subjective opinion on rap skill and the outcome of a lyrical battle.
Void
Jun 4, 2018·Who's Back
#4732
Big CatBig Cat

You can't fire an FBI agent for breakdancing

You can't fire someone for feeling a dance circle. If you've ever been at a wedding, any kind of party, there's nothing more awkward than a dance circle where no one goes in. So this guy had to go in. He did an unbelievable move.

The agent was eventually charged with second-degree assault and reached a plea deal, though he was not immediately fired, he faced significant legal and professional repercussions.
Loss
Jun 4, 2018·Who's Back
#4733
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

No two nations that have McDonald's have ever had a war against each other

No two nations that have McDonald's have ever had a war against each other. Please credit Pardon My Take. Please credit us for inventing that economic principle.

The claim is historically incorrect. Conflicts between nations with McDonald's include the 1999 NATO bombing of Yugoslavia and the 2008 Russo-Georgian War.
Void
Jun 4, 2018
#28971
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

Raleigh Fingers has a better sports mustache than me

I don't think so [that I'm the #1 sports mustache]. Who's number one? You've got to go way before you guys. Raleigh Fingers with the handlebar mustache.

Mustache quality is subjective.
Win
Jun 4, 2018
#4736
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

Mike Trout is the best player in the game

Oh, Trout. Trout's the best player in the game. He's ungodly.

Mike Trout led the league in bWAR in 2018 (9.9) and was the runner-up for AL MVP. He was widely considered the best in the world at this time.
Win
Jun 4, 2018
#28970
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

The Tom Seaver trade was the beginning of the Mets' downward spiral in 1977

I didn't really appreciate when I was coming up... the Mets were very good, but starting to fade a little... And then they made the Seaver trade, and I think that was the beginning of the spiral in '77, and they were horrible teams.

The Mets had 7 consecutive losing seasons after trading Seaver in 1977.
Void
Jun 4, 2018
#28969
Keith HernandezKeith Hernandez

If Doc Gooden hadn't missed time in 1987, the Mets would have won 10 more games and the division

if we had had Doc [Gooden] I think that it would have been... we would have had 10 more wins. We would have won the division and no one would be talking about this. So that i just those things piss you off... '87 will always stick in my craw.

A historical counterfactual that is inherently subjective.
Win
Jun 4, 2018
#28972
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Keith Hernandez was nicknamed 'Mex' for a year before telling teammates he was actually Spanish

one of the funny parts about his career, he was nicknamed Mex, because his last name's Hernandez... And he waited a year, and he was like, hey, guys, I'm actually Spanish. I'm actually not Mexican. It's from Spain.

Keith Hernandez has confirmed this anecdote in multiple interviews and his books.

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