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Chris Hogan, Leonard Fournette aka Lombardi Lenny and Carson Wentz Traded

Friday, February 19, 202122 takes

Carson Wentz has finally been traded and we talk winners and losers ( - ). Big Ben is still a Steeler, sort of ( - ). Fernando Tatis Jr mega contract and talking tennis ( - ). Our friend Lombardi Lenny joins the show to talk about winning the Super Bowl, Tom Brady pumping him up and taking everyone out to dinner ( - ) NFL WR and now PLL Draftee Chris Hogan joins the show to talk about entering the Lacrosse Draft, Belichick, Super Bowls, and more ( - ). Fyre Fest of the week included a who farted mystery

Lombardi Lenny, Chris Hogan, and the Carson Wentz Trade

The long national nightmare is finally over. Carson Wentz is heading to the Indianapolis Colts, and while the move had been rumored for weeks, Big Cat and PFT are ready to pick through the wreckage left behind in Philadelphia. The guys aren't exactly buying the idea that the Eagles came out of this unscathed, especially considering the massive cap hit they're swallowing just to make the ginger quarterback go away.

Win
Feb 19, 2021
#16004
Big CatBig Cat

The Eagles are the biggest losers of the Carson Wentz trade

The biggest losers being the Philadelphia Eagles, I would say. I would frame it in the context of the Eagles traded for him to draft him. Then they gave him a ton of money. Then they also gave him a ton of money and $33 million against the cap, and their franchise quarterback that they thought they had traded for and everything was hunky-dory is now gone.

The Eagles did indeed take a record-setting dead cap hit ($33.8M) to trade Wentz, and the draft capital they spent to get him in 2016 was massive.

While the divorce was messy, Big Cat thinks the landing spot in Indy is actually the perfect environment for a career resurrection. Reuniting with Frank Reich might be the only thing that can save whatever is left of Wentz's confidence after the disaster that was his 2020 season.

Push
Feb 19, 2021
#16006
Big CatBig Cat

Carson Wentz can find his old self with Frank Reich in Indianapolis

The reclamation of Carson Wentz, like Frank Reich was where he had his success earlier in his career. I do think that he can—I'm not throwing him out. I'm not saying that he can't find old Carson Wentz. And the best place for him to do that is the Indianapolis Colts.

Wentz was significantly better in 2021 (27 TDs, 7 INTs) than 2020, but he collapsed in the season finale vs the Jaguars and was traded away after only one year.

PFT pointed out that the Raiders might be the sneaky biggest losers here for refusing to move Derek Carr, while also predicting some future saltiness from Wentz when he sees who the Eagles draft with their high pick.

Loss
Feb 19, 2021
#16007
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Eagles will likely draft Jamar Chase and Wentz will be furious

What's also going to be funny is the Eagles, if they don't draft a quarterback in the first round, they're probably going to take a wide receiver. They're probably going to take Jamar Chase. And Carson Wentz is going to be like, what the fuck? When I was there, the best guy that we got was Ortega Whiteside.

The Eagles actually traded down from 6 to 12 (then back up to 10) and drafted DeVonta Smith, not Jamar Chase. Chase was drafted by the Bengals.

Big Ben and Slam Diego

The QB carousel isn't just spinning in Philly. The Steelers are making some very ominous noises regarding Ben Roethlisberger's future. It turns out that having a massive cap hit for a guy who can't really throw deep anymore isn't a great team-building strategy. Big Cat isn't convinced the front office actually wants him back, while PFT envisions a scenario where Ben just keeps showing up to the facility like a sad dog even if he's cut.

Loss
Feb 19, 2021
#21188
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Steelers might release Big Ben and eat the cap hit rather than bringing him back

That's what they [Steelers] might end up doing is just releasing him and eating that money. And Big Ben will probably be like, you don't have to pay me. I'm just going to keep showing up to work.

The Steelers did not release Roethlisberger; instead, he signed a new contract with a significant pay cut to remain with the team for the 2021 season.

In the baseball world, Fernando Tatis Jr. signed a monstrous 14-year deal to stay in San Diego. While the Padres are currently the darlings of MLB, Jake is already counting down the days until the pinstripes come calling if things don't go perfectly.

Open
Feb 19, 2021
#16009
Jake MarshJake Marsh

Fernando Tatis Jr. will be a Yankee in four or five years if the Padres don't win a title

Well, I mean, the Padres, they obviously were an electric team in the shortened season last year. Slam Diego? Yeah, Slam Diego. So if they don't win a title in what? The first four or five? Then he's a Yankee.

Tatis is still with the Padres as of 2024 and is locked into his massive 14-year contract.

Lombardi Lenny Joins the Family

Leonard Fournette, now officially known as Lombardi Lenny, joined the show to recap his incredible Super Bowl run. He’s fully embraced the PMT family, even offering to become "Barstool Lenny" and start blogging for the site. He gave us some incredible insight into what it’s like being in a locker room with Tom Brady, noting that the GOAT’s leadership starts at 5:30 in the morning.

Win
Feb 19, 2021
#16017
Leonard FournetteLeonard Fournette

Tom Brady text the entire team every morning at 5:30 AM before the Super Bowl saying we will win

He was just telling us, we will win this game. You know, our hard work we're doing throughout the week, you know, he made sure that, you know, just like we all did. It'd be 5:30 of the morning before. I guess he's the first person up. You know, he leads by example.

Multiple Buccaneers players confirmed receiving these motivational texts from Brady throughout the 2020 playoffs.

Lenny also detailed the difference between a Bruce Arians speech and a Tom Brady speech. While Arians is great, when the man with seven rings starts talking about "honor" and the name on the back of your jersey, the entire room shifts into a different gear.

Void
Feb 19, 2021
#21184
Leonard FournetteLeonard Fournette

Tom Brady's pregame speech about 'honor' was more effective than Bruce Arians' speech

[Bruce Arians] gave a speech, but it wasn't the speech we needed. ... The speech we needed to hear was from Tom Brady. And his speech was about honor. ... When Tom said we're playing for honor and for the last names on our back, I think that kind of hit different for us.

This is a first-hand subjective account of the locker room atmosphere.

7-11 is Always Open (for Lacrosse)

Chris Hogan joined the show to discuss his transition from the NFL back to his first love: Lacrosse. As a PLL draftee, Hogan is looking to prove he’s more than just a "football player who played lacrosse" storyline. He’s been training hard to get his stick skills back up to speed, though he thinks the transition is more natural than people realize.

Void
Feb 19, 2021
#21186
Chris HoganChris Hogan

The skills transition from lacrosse to football is effortless due to hand-eye coordination

The transition [from lacrosse to wide receiver] is like effortless because they're just the eye hand coordination, the dodging, the conditioning, the physical part of the both games, like playing receiver and then playing like midfielder attack is so similar.

Hogan's successful career in both sports serves as anecdotal proof of this claim.

Hogan also played the "who would be good at lacrosse" game with his former Patriots teammates. While some guys have the speed, Hogan thinks one specific physical freak wouldn't even need to learn the fundamentals to dominate the field.

Void
Feb 19, 2021
#16021
Chris HoganChris Hogan

Gronk would be an elite lacrosse player without needing stick skills

Gronk wouldn't even have to worry about stick skills. I mean, the stick would be invisible. You'd stick him on attack, and he'd be able to run through everybody.

Given Gronk's athletic profile, this is a reasonable assumption, though it remains purely hypothetical.

Fyre Fest of the Week

Fyre Fest turned into a full-blown investigation after a mysterious noise was captured during a Stool Streams broadcast. Hank is convinced PFT ripped a "WAP fart" on air, while PFT is claiming total innocence due to medical-grade constipation. The tension in the office is palpable, with PFT suggesting Hank is just manufacturing "fart content" to boost his numbers.

Void
Feb 19, 2021·Fyre Fest
#21187
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Hank faked a fart noise on a soundboard to get more views for Stool Streams

I actually think that Hank had like a sound board in the truck, a fart board. Piped it in to get more views on his little video that he was putting out. And then he wrote like two blogs about it and he's tried to squeeze content out of it.

While never definitively proven, the comedic timing and 'cartoonish' nature of the sound led many to believe it was a soundboard effect.

Billy Football ended the week by revealing his latest get-rich-quick scheme involving the Pi Network. He’s currently "mining" crypto on his phone by clicking a button once a day, and he's fully prepared for one of two outcomes.

Loss
Feb 19, 2021·Fyre Fest
#16026
Billy FootballBilly Football

I am either going to prison or becoming a billionaire because of Pi Network

Either I'm going to go to jail because this is all illegal, which I don't think it is, or I'm going to make a ton of money. It's speculative value. Either I'm going to go to prison or be a billionaire.

Pi Network remains in an unlaunched 'enclosed mainnet' state years later with zero market value, and Billy is neither in prison nor a billionaire because of it.

Hopefully Billy’s billionaire status comes through before the feds find out what a Pi Network actually is.

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Void
Feb 19, 2021
#16005
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Raiders are the biggest losers of the Wentz trade because they wouldn't part with Derek Carr

I'd say that the losers of this trade would be the Raiders. The Raiders lost this trade because the Colts tried to get Derek Carr first, and the Raiders were like, no, we're not going to part with Derek Carr. That's a loss for the Raiders right there.

Carr remained with the Raiders for two more seasons and led them to the playoffs in 2021 before his eventually rocky exit, so keeping him wasn't an immediate disaster.
Push
Feb 19, 2021
#16008
Big CatBig Cat

The Steelers don't want Big Ben around next year

Then we also had the Big Ben news where kind of ominous saying that Big Ben is on the roster and a stealer today. It doesn't feel like they want Big Ben around next year.

Roethlisberger did return for the 2021 season after taking a pay cut, though it was widely understood to be his final year.
Void
Feb 19, 2021
#21189
Big CatBig Cat

Tennis is a boring sport

Well, she [Naomi Osaka] plays a boring sport. ... I said I didn't give a fuck [about the match]. People were like, how can you not be talking about it? Like, I do not care.

Inherent matter of personal taste.
Win
Feb 19, 2021
#21183
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Padres are frauds if they don't produce a championship with their current roster

We should hold ourselves to be the ones that are putting San Diego in the accountability spotlight. Like if San Diego does not produce, they're frauds.

The Padres struggled to find consistent postseason success in the immediate years following this contract, famously missing the playoffs in 2021 and 2023 despite massive payrolls.
Push
Feb 19, 2021
#16010
Jake MarshJake Marsh

Zach Wilson's mechanics are Mahomes-esque and baseball-esque

It's just the way [Zach Wilson] uses his base in separation to his upper body when he throws. It's very Mahomes-esque and very baseball-esque.

The 'Mahomes-esque' label became a major talking point for Wilson's draft profile, though his NFL performance failed to live up to the comparison.
Void
Feb 19, 2021
#16012
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Mets should have brought up Tim Tebow just to sell tickets

My prediction was that the Mets should bring him up because they weren't selling any tickets, and they should have brought him up several times to the big leagues because Tim Tebow puts asses in seats. That's just a fact. People would go out and watch Tim Tebow strike out three times before they would go out and watch the Mets win 30% of their games at home.

Tebow retired without ever making a Major League appearance, despite significant jersey sales in the minors.
Void
Feb 19, 2021
#16015
Big CatBig Cat

Tim Tebow is a top 3 college football player ever

I would say [Tebow]'s underrated in football because we all clown on him and, you know, he wasn't great in the pros. But in terms of, I mean, he's one of the best college football players ever, I think. I'd say, like, top three college football player.

Tebow is frequently cited in top 5 or top 10 lists of all-time college football players due to his two championships and Heisman Trophy.
Open
Feb 19, 2021
#21185
Leonard FournetteLeonard Fournette

Jason Pierre-Paul is a future Hall of Famer

He may have seven and a half fingers, but he is a Hall of Famer. He's a two-time champion. And his resume and his credentials he has is remarkable.

JPP's Hall of Fame status will be determined by voters years after his retirement.
Win
Feb 19, 2021
#16019
Leonard FournetteLeonard Fournette

I want to stay with the Buccaneers if we can keep the team together

I would love to rejoin, you know, but things happen. If it doesn't work out, it happens. So just stay and pray it up and I'm going to let my agents and them deal with that. I think this team, we could do something special if we stay together again.

Fournette did re-sign with the Buccaneers on a one-year deal shortly after this interview.
Void
Feb 19, 2021·Fyre Fest
#16024
HankHank

Vacation shaming is always wrong

Vacation shaming in all forms is wrong. That's my stance. I just, you know, I'm on the front lines of vacations everywhere.

This is a core tenet of the 'Vacation Lockwood' persona.
Void
Feb 19, 2021·Fyre Fest
#16022
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Politicians should not be allowed on Twitter at all

I do think that politicians just should not be on Twitter at all. I've seen way too much of politicians dunking on other politicians. People that are in the Senate and House of Representatives spend like 90% of their time thinking about how they can get retweets.

This is a subjective political and media critique.

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