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Cian Fahey and Super Bowl Champion Malik Jackson

Friday, July 28, 201721 takes

The War on the War on Football is heating up and we're here at the front lines (- ). Update on Lebron vs Kyrie which has turned into Lebron vs Stephen A Smith and Kyrie vs Old Hacky Columnists ( - ). QB Whisperer Cian Fahey joins the show to do the Mt Rushmore of current backup Quarterbacks ( - ). Super Bowl Champion Malik Jackson joins the show to talk about scoring a Touchdown in the Super Bowl, his decision to sign with the Jaguars, and Cam Newton making business decisions on the football field ( - ). Segments include talking soccer, hurt or injured for a ripped out nipple ring on the Cowboys and the Milwaukee Brewers. Higher Education with Billy Football and that's enough internet for today.

Malik Jackson and Cian Fahey on Jaguars, Super Bowl Rings, and NFL Backups

Training camp is officially back, and that means Big Cat and PFT are relaunching the War on the War on Football. The guys opened the show breaking down a recent poll about NFL viewership. While some people claim they're done with the league for moral reasons, Big Cat isn't buying the grandstanding for a second.

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Jul 28, 2017
#13136
Big CatBig Cat

NFL critics who claim they stopped watching are actually still watching every Sunday

You know my favorite are the people on Twitter that say, I can no longer morally watch football. You are a fucking liar because I know you're fucking watching the Red Zone from 1 o'clock to 7 o'clock every fucking Sunday. You can't stop watching the NFL. You can't. Like it or not, it's here.

This is subjective social commentary on viewer behavior, but viewership data generally remained high despite controversy, supporting the idea of 'hate-watching' or empty threats.

The injury bug is already hitting camp, specifically with Joe Flacco’s back issues in Baltimore. While Ravens fans are panicking, PFT found the silver lining for fantasy owners and Danny Woodhead enthusiasts.

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Jul 28, 2017
#13137
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Joe Flacco's back injury will actually benefit Danny Woodhead's usage

I think that's just more touches for [Danny] Woodhead. [Joe Flacco's] going to have a great year, and I'm telling you, this is going to be good for Woodhead.

Woodhead only played 8 games in 2017 due to his own injuries, and Flacco had a mediocre year as the Ravens missed the playoffs. The predicted benefit didn't materialize.

LeBron vs. The World

The drama between LeBron James and Kyrie Irving has evolved into a multi-front war involving Stephen A. Smith and some very specific Lion King metaphors from Cleveland columnists. While the media is obsessed with the beef, Big Cat sees a master strategist at work. He’s convinced LeBron is playing the long game to ensure his eventual exit from Cleveland looks like everyone's fault but his own.

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Jul 28, 2017
#13143
Big CatBig Cat

LeBron James is setting up excuses to leave Cleveland by blaming Kyrie and the front office

This is all setting up. You first have the GM situation. You have Dan Gilbert acting crazy as always. You have Kyrie asking for a trade. LeBron can now leave Cleveland and be like, it's not my fault. It was all on you guys.

LeBron did leave for the Lakers in the 2018 offseason after the Cavs' situation continued to deteriorate. Big Cat correctly identified the narrative strategy.

PFT also weighed in on the Stephen A. Smith versus LeBron feud, noting that if it actually came down to a physical confrontation, he’s backing the guy with the loudest voice in the room.

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Jul 28, 2017
#13141
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I would bet on Stephen A. Smith in a fight against LeBron James

I would put money on Stephen A. Smith in a fight against LeBron James.

LeBron James is 6'9" and 250lbs of elite muscle; Stephen A. Smith is a sports journalist. The outcome is obvious but the fight never happened.

Mount Rushmore of Backup Quarterbacks with Cian Fahey

NFL writer and quarterback guru Cian Fahey joined the show to help rank the current crop of backup signal callers. The conversation immediately turned to the Patriots and whether Jimmy Garoppolo is actually the heir apparent or just a product of the system. Cian had a pretty sobering comparison for Pats fans.

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Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Jimmy Garoppolo is essentially Cody Kessler with a better logo

The way I've described him is it's like if you go into a shop and you've got 10 shirts that are exactly the same. It's like buying the one with the Nike logo on it. It's not necessarily a better shirt. It just looks better. [Garoppolo] and Cody Kessler is not a big difference.

Garoppolo went on to lead the 49ers to a Super Bowl and had a successful (though injury-prone) starting career, whereas Kessler washed out of the league quickly. The comparison was proven wrong over time.

Big Cat, ever the optimist for his Chicago Bears, used the segment to manifest a legendary career for Mitchell Trubisky.

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Big CatBig Cat

Mitchell Trubisky will win at least five Super Bowls

Kian, tell me, as a Bears fan, that Mitch Trubisky is going to be a franchise quarterback and probably win no less than five Super Bowls.

Trubisky never won a Super Bowl and was eventually replaced by the Bears. He became a journeyman backup.

Cian actually backed up some of the hype, arguing that Trubisky’s mechanics are sound enough that the Bears shouldn't waste time holding a clipboard behind Mike Glennon.

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Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Mitchell Trubisky should start immediately rather than sitting

Normally, you want to sit a rookie quarterback if he needs to fix his footwork or fix his throwing motion... But Trubisky's got good feet. He reacts to pressure well... I would play him so he can learn. He's got good accuracy. He's a good athlete. He's really poised. He can go through reads. And I'd happily take him as a starter.

Trubisky sat for the first four games of 2017 before starting. His career didn't ultimately justify the high evaluation, but the 'should he start' debate was a major topic in 2017.

Malik Jackson on Business and Boards

Super Bowl champion Malik Jackson stopped by to talk about his transition from the dominant Broncos defense to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Malik was refreshingly honest about his decision to sign a massive $90 million deal in Florida, citing the importance of financial security over chasing another ring in Denver.

Win
Jul 28, 2017
#13154
Malik JacksonMalik Jackson

I left the Broncos for the Jaguars primarily to maximize my family's financial security

This game for me is about providing for my family, allowing my daughter to grow with not too many worries. No state income tax down in Florida. Florida, Texas, Tennessee... as a player, you know, we get cut every day... if [fans] had the opportunity to do what I did, they would do the exact same thing.

This is a statement of personal motivation.

Malik also revisited the Super Bowl 50 victory, specifically the fumble recovery for a touchdown and Cam Newton’s infamous "business decision" to not dive into the pile. He also gave his alma mater some love, though Big Cat remains skeptical of the Volunteers' ability to finish a season strong.

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Jul 28, 2017
#13155
Malik JacksonMalik Jackson

Tennessee will win the SEC East this year

This is the year we're winning the... SEC East. I believe in that team until we start to blow up, but I think they're going to go all the way, man.

Tennessee had a disastrous 2017 season, going 4-8 (0-8 in the SEC), making this prediction very incorrect.

Segments

In a classic "Hurt or Injured" segment, the guys reacted to David Irving of the Cowboys getting his nipple ring ripped out during practice. While most would call that a nightmare, Big Cat viewed it as a high-level branding move for a guy looking to establish his off-field reputation.

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Big CatBig Cat

Getting a nipple ring is a clear signal that a man wants to get down and do weird stuff

I think he's actually happy this happened so that he could tweet it out, I lost my nipple ring during practice, because that's basically saying, hey, ladies, I fuck, and I do weird shit. A dude doesn't get a nipple ring unless he wants to get down.

The interpretation of a piercing's social meaning is entirely subjective.

The Milwaukee Brewers also landed on the "Injured" list after giving up four consecutive home runs to the Nationals. PFT argued that the failure wasn't just in the pitching, but in the lack of old-school retaliation.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pitchers must bean the next batter after giving up three or four consecutive home runs to show they have pride

I put that on the Brewers pitching staff because if you give up four home runs in a row and you don't bean the next guy up, that's a real problem. That means that you don't have pride in your craft. After three batters in a row, you've got to hit the next guy in the head.

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The take is a satirical endorsement of dangerous behavior (intentional head-hunting) which is against MLB rules and widely condemned.

To wrap things up, Billy Football faced the music for his recent social media mishaps. He'll be delivering a PowerPoint presentation on social media safety to the entire office, while also providing advice for incoming college freshmen. Big Cat offered a final piece of wisdom for Billy and anyone else heading to a small campus this fall.

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Big CatBig Cat

Everyone who attends a small liberal arts college secretly regrets not going to a big fun state school

I have yet to meet one person who went to a small school and didn't somewhat a little bit regret not going to a big fun state school. That's just a fact.

This is a sweeping generalization based on personal anecdote and can never be objectively proven.

Just remember to keep your head on a swivel for mystery pythons.

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Jul 28, 2017
#13138
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Magnus Ver Magnussen is the second greatest athlete ever behind only Barry Bonds

I don't think there's ever been an athlete that's better at what they do than Magnus [Ver Magnussen], with maybe the exception of Barry Bonds.

This is a subjective comparison of dominance across entirely different sports.
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Jul 28, 2017
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Roger Goodell skipping the Patriots season opener is a sign of disrespect that will lead to another title

Probably when [Roger] Goodell doesn't show up to game one. That's going to be a clear sign of disrespect that [the Patriots] are going to have to avenge by going to the Super Bowl and winning another championship.

The Patriots did reach the Super Bowl (LII) but lost to the Eagles. They did not win the championship that year.
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Brock Osweiler has no idea what he is looking at on the field despite his physical advantages

Brock Osweiler is beautiful because he's like a deer in the pocket where he's just falling over himself. And he's got all that height to see everything, but he has no idea what he's looking at. So he just ends up throwing the ball at defenders all day.

Osweiler is widely considered one of the biggest quarterback busts in NFL history, largely due to the exact lack of vision and processing speed Cian identifies here.
Void
Jul 28, 2017
#26182
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Even in retirement, Jay Cutler is a better quarterback option than Josh McCown

I think I'd take Jay Cutler, even while retired Jay Cutler, because Josh McCown is, much like Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's one of these brilliant players who fits every system... but throws loads of interceptions, runs into every sack, and can't run any system.

Cutler briefly un-retired to play for the Dolphins in 2017 and was mediocre; McCown had a surprisingly solid year for the Jets. The preference remains subjective.
Void
Jul 28, 2017
#13151
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback in the NFL

Well, I think the obvious one is Aaron Rodgers... [His struggles were because] His wide receivers can't catch the ball. Davante Adams can't get open. Jordy Nelson couldn't move because he was coming off an ACL tear.

Rodgers is widely considered one of the greatest of all time, and Davante Adams eventually became an All-Pro, though Cian's specific critique of their 2016 season is subjective film analysis.
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Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Tom Brady showed signs of regression in the 2016 playoffs despite winning the Super Bowl

The playoffs last year weren't great. I know they won the Super Bowl, they came back, but in the fourth quarter of that Falcons game, if you go through it, he threw the ball to defenders. On the Edelman catch, if you look at where that ball arrives and where he threw it, it was straight to the defender... That's just lucky.

Brady went on to win the NFL MVP in 2017 and led the league in passing yards, strongly refuting the 'regression' narrative at that time.
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Jul 28, 2017
#26178
Cian FaheyCian Fahey

Philip Rivers had a better career than Tony Romo because he reached an AFC Championship game

Better career, probably Rivers, because he actually got to an AFC Championship game... Rivers is phenomenal at making the players work as designed... Romo was kind of great at playing outside of the system, outside of structure when the pocket broke down.

This remains a subjective debate, though Rivers does hold the edge in most cumulative statistics and the specific playoff advancement mentioned.
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Big CatBig Cat

The Nationals have the most potent offense in baseball

Shout out to future hall of famer Dan Haren because on this same podcast on Wednesday he said the nationals have the most potent offense in baseball boom so next day [they hit 8 home runs].

In 2017, the Nationals finished 3rd in the MLB in runs scored per game, confirming they were among the elite offenses.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

A .10 BAC is the minimum threshold for an underage drinking citation to be considered cool

At least a .10. That's really the threshold right there. Come on, like .04? Would you use mouthwash that morning?

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