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Coach Mike Vrabel, Comedian Gary Vider Growing Up With A Scam Artist Dad + We Introduce Our New Intern

Friday, July 19, 202425 takes

PFT pays off his perm bet and looks good (-). We then introduce our new intern Matthew with a backstory of where he’s from, what his interests are and an assignment he did ranking the Top 10 basketball players in the world (-). Caleb Williams signed and ESPN completes the top 100 list (-). Mt Rushmore of Pizza Toppings but we’re actually doing it for real this time (-). Coach Mike Vrabel joins the show to talk about what he’s doing now, football, could he beat up Luke Fickell, the time he stole time from Belichick and tons more (-). Comedian Gary Vider joins the show to talk about his podcast #1 Dad, growing up with a scam artist father, and how his Dad snuck him into MSG in the nineties dozens of times including the time he interviewing Michael Jordan pretending to be an SI kid’s reporter (-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (-).

Mike Vrabel and Gary Vider on Coaching, Scams, and the New Intern

PFT has finally paid off his perm bet, and it is a sight to behold. He looks like he belongs in a 1970s rock band or a pool hall in Boystown, which is fitting because Big Cat and PFT decided today was the day to finally introduce the newest member of the PMT family. Meet Matthew, our new intern who goes by "Hewy" on Twitter but refuses to let the guys call him Matt for a very specific reason.

Void
Jul 19, 2024
#10667
HewyHewy

I'm 'too fat' to go by Matt, so use Matthew instead

I'd prefer Matthew. I think I'm a little too fat for Matt. I think Matt's, you know, last six months, they've probably gotten laid.

This is a subjective personal preference.

Hewy isn't just a new face; he’s already coming in with some massive claims. He’s a Michigan man through and through, and he’s ready to back the local high school scene with a level of confidence we usually only see from Max during a Phillies run.

Loss
Jul 19, 2024
#24333
HewyHewy

Macomb High School football will win the Michigan state title this year

I'm from Detroit... Macomb... a high school. We got a lot of cougars out there. 'cause that's our high school name. Oh, the football team will win state this year. That's the goal. Every year... Do it. You're gonna be in it for rude awakening.

This will be determined at the conclusion of the 2024 high school football season.

To put him to the test, Big Cat had him rank his top 10 basketball players in the world, combining the NBA and WNBA. Matthew’s list was actually pretty solid, though putting LeBron at the bottom of the top 10 raised some eyebrows. He also showed some serious love for A'ja Wilson, comparing her dominance to a certain Super Bowl-winning quarterback.

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HewyHewy

A'ja Wilson is as much better than the second best WNBA player as Patrick Mahomes is compared to other QBs in the playoffs

The gap [between A'ja Wilson and the second best woman] is as long as, as strong as, as big as Patrick Mahomes to the second best quarterback in football during the playoffs. Specifically the playoffs.

A'ja Wilson is currently having a historic season, making this a strong comparison, though ultimately subjective.

Mike Vrabel on the Browns and Stealing Time

Coach Mike Vrabel joined the show to discuss his new role as a consultant for the Cleveland Browns. It’s a classic Chill Week interview, and Vrabel was as intimidating and hilarious as ever. He talked about working with Kevin Stefanski and the offensive staff to provide a defensive perspective, essentially playing the role of a high-level scout team middle linebacker. Big Cat was curious if Vrabel still thinks he's the baddest man in the room, especially when compared to his best friend and Wisconsin coach, Luke Fickell.

Void
Jul 19, 2024
#10675
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

I would not lose to Luke Fickell in a street fight

I do not believe if it was a street fight that I would lose to [Luke Fickell]. [Even though he's an elite wrestler], that is not a sanctioned wrestling event. I'm intimidating. I'm bigger than him. I would not lose.

This is a hypothetical street fight between two friends/coaches that will never happen.

Vrabel also touched on his time in New England and his relationship with Bill Belichick. He laughed about the "time travel" moments when he used Belichick’s own loopholes against him during games, and he shared his thoughts on how the legendary coach will transition into his new media roles this season.

Win
Jul 19, 2024
#10676
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

Bill Belichick's football knowledge is great for media and TV

I think there's just so much knowledge there and the way that he can articulate it and he explains it. And those are, when I watched him briefly in those media opportunities, that's what we felt like. That's kind of what we got in a team meeting was this overall history of football.

Belichick's 2024 media appearances (Draft, Manningcast) have been widely praised for exactly the reasons Vrabel cited.

Before letting him go, the guys asked about the new NFL kickoff rules. Vrabel, ever the tactician, thinks teams will eventually find a way to minimize the chaos, even if the league is trying to revitalize the play.

Win
Jul 19, 2024
#10677
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

NFL touchbacks will increase as the season goes on under the new kickoff rule

I think you'll probably see, I think as the season goes on, probably more touchbacks. I think that we'll see... what the 30 yard line does on the touchback. If it keeps the kickoff alive and it keeps guys in the game, I think there will be more returns, but eventually you'll see more touchbacks.

In the early weeks of the 2024 season, touchback rates actually increased significantly compared to the preseason, validating Vrabel's intuition.

Gary Vider’s Life with a Scam Artist Dad

Comedian Gary Vider came on to discuss his incredible new podcast, "Number One Dad." The story is wild: Gary’s father was a professional con artist who spent the nineties sneaking Gary into Madison Square Garden by posing as a Sports Illustrated for Kids photographer. Gary was the "kid reporter," and he actually interviewed legends like Michael Jordan and Patrick Ewing while being completely fake. It gave Gary a unique perspective on human nature and the art of the lie.

Void
Jul 19, 2024
#10678
Gary ViderGary Vider

Most people are full of shit and lie just to make themselves seem more interesting

I think everybody's lying to you... just think that everybody's full of shit. And most people are. I mean, you a lot of times you go and you start talking to people. If they're at a party, people start bragging... they're already lying because you're trying to be entertaining, you're trying to sound interesting. So a lot of things that people are saying to you are gonna be false.

Subjective philosophical outlook on human behavior.

Gary shared stories about meeting Jordan at the "Double Nickel" game and sitting glass-side for the Rangers' 1994 Stanley Cup win, all without ever owning a ticket. While the relationship with his father is complicated and fractured, he can't deny the rush of getting one over on the system.

Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24332
Gary ViderGary Vider

There is a unique thrill and rush to sneaking into places without paying

It's a absolutely. You have a rush. There's something about it. There's something about not paying for something and getting away with it. And you gotta see something. That was amazing seeing Game seven of the Stanley Cup. I met Jordan at his double nickel game.

Subjective psychological experience.

Mount Rushmore and Fyre Fest

We finally did the Mount Rushmore of Pizza Toppings for real this time. No more spinach sabotages from Hank. It was a mostly standard draft, though things got heated when Big Cat defended the most controversial fruit in the culinary world.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Pineapple absolutely belongs on pizza

I fucking love pineapple on pizza. I love pineapple with, with barbecue chicken on a pizza... At what point did it become a thing where people are like, pineapple doesn't belong on pizza?

This is a matter of personal taste.

Max also tried to convince everyone that a meatball salad is a legitimate Italian staple, which felt like a reach even for him. To wrap up the show, Fyre Fest of the week hit hard for Big Cat, who realized his athletic prime is officially in the rearview mirror after a middling performance in the office home run derby.

Void
Jul 19, 2024·Fyre Fest
#10680
Big CatBig Cat

I'm officially 'washed' after struggling in the home run derby

Tuesday night we hit dingers... but I think I'm officially, officially washed because... I was halfway through the whole competition and I looked at the leaderboard and it was like me, Titus, Chief, Brandon... every guy who's 37 plus. I was maxing out everything I had and it wasn't that good.

The definition of being 'washed' is subjective and relates to personal physical performance expectations.

At least he isn't Hank, who has developed bicep tendonitis just from the sheer effort of trying to keep up with Max's dingers.

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More Takes

Void
HewyHewy

LeBron James is only the 10th best basketball player in the world right now

We're gonna start with number 10. The old man himself. The man who's done it before and he'll do it again. LeBron James.

The ranking of current players is inherently subjective.
Void
HewyHewy

Kyrie Irving is the best ball handler in the world

Number eight, a guy who arguably maybe shouldn't be on this list... but he's probably the best ball handler in the world. Magical. Some say Kyrie Irving.

Ball handling skill is a subjective assessment of technique and effectiveness.
Open
HewyHewy

Victor Wembanyama will be the best player in the world by the time he is 25

By the time this man can rent a vehicle, he will be the best player in the world. [At age 25]. So we got like four years. I mean, to me the sky is nothing but a limit.

Victor Wembanyama is widely considered a generational talent, so becoming the best by 25 is highly possible, though currently pending.
Loss
Jul 19, 2024
#24334
HewyHewy

The Washington State dynasty has already peaked under Coach Doug

Congratulations. Thank you. On the best season Wazoo is gonna have under you, coach Doug. I'm realistic. And I'm wanting to root for you. But when but when you're missing reps. If you won that game, sky's the limit.

Washington State finished 8-5 in 2024 under Jake Dickert (not 'Coach Doug' as referenced in the take). The prediction that the program had already peaked is contradicted by WSU's continued competitive play.
Win
Big CatBig Cat

Mike Florio and Colin Cowherd look like morons because Caleb Williams officially signed with the Bears

All who said that there was 0% chance that Caleb Williams was going to sign with the Bears. That he was gonna force a trade. That he was gonna demand ownership. Florio said he was gonna play another season at USC. You all look like morons. Caleb Williams is officially signed as a Bear.

Caleb Williams did indeed sign his rookie contract with the Bears on July 17, 2024.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Jayden Daniels could be the next C.J. Stroud while Caleb Williams is the next Bryce Young

Booger McFarland... said today on Get Up, don't be surprised when Jayden Daniels is the guy that they're talking about next year as being like a C.J. Stroud. And Caleb Williams is the one being talked about like he's a Bryce Young. So I'm, I go with Booger.

Jayden Daniels had a phenomenal rookie season (OROY, led Commanders to NFC Championship), similar to CJ Stroud's impact. However, Caleb Williams was not as bad as Bryce Young — Williams showed promise with 3,541 yards and 20 TDs despite a bad supporting cast (Bears went 5-12). The Daniels part was very accurate; the Williams-Young comparison was too harsh.
Loss
Jul 19, 2024
#24323
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Arkansas football might officially be back because of their renewed rivalry with Texas

Sam Pittman said, our focus this year is to embrace the hog at Arkansas. Which I love. I think they're also back because they get to renew the rivalry against Texas. Which is bigger than a lot of people think. Like Arkansas and Texas hate each other. So I'm wishing the best for the hogs. Embrace the hog. I feel like Arkansas might be back.

Arkansas was not 'back' in 2024. They finished 7-6 (3-5 SEC), and coach Sam Pittman was fired early in the 2025 season after a 56-13 loss to Notre Dame.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24324
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Russell Westbrook is a bad fit for the Denver Nuggets

He went to the nuggets today. So he went, he went to the jazz, they bought the contract out. And then he goes to the Nuggets. I don't like that fit on the nuggets either.

This is a matter of basketball fit and chemistry, which is subjective but can be judged by the team's performance with him.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24325
Big CatBig Cat

Victor Hovland sucks

Victor Hovland sucks. That was a bad decision by us with the whole death thing. And then he was eating ice cream. That sucked. This is a tough course.

Hovland had a rough 2024 Open Championship, but calling a top professional golfer 'sucks' is inherently subjective.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24326
Big CatBig Cat

Links golf is never fun to watch

it just never seems fun. When I watch it, I'm like, what? This, the wind is always blowing. It's overcast. There's huge bunkers. It just doesn't seem fun.

Subjective opinion on entertainment value.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24327
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Open Championship is the worst sporting event to attend as a fan

it looks like the worst event to go to as a fan, as a spectator. Just sitting out in the rain, in the wind the whole time.

Subjective view on the spectator experience.
Void
MaxMax

Meatball salad is an excellent Italian staple

I'm gonna go mushrooms... I always pick meatball. Great salad. Meatball salad is an excellent salad. It's an Italian thing. Meatball salad.

While meatball salads exist in Italian-American cuisine, its quality is subjective.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24329
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

Teams that play hard are guaranteed to stay in the game

There was a veteran coach at Ohio State... he said, 'man, your guys would play hard.' I didn't realize how good that felt when he said 'your guys play hard.' So I always try to carry that through. If you play hard, you're gonna be in the game.

It's a foundational football belief, though talent often overcomes simple effort in the NFL.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24330
Mike VrabelMike Vrabel

The secret to surviving a bear attack while hiking is simply being faster than your wife

my wife Jen and I going hike and she's like, 'well I saw on Instagram they get bears out there now.' And I'm like, 'babe, I don't have to be faster than the bear. I just have to be faster than you.' It's not that hard to understand.

It's a joke, though technically being faster than the slowest person does improve survival odds in a predator scenario.
Void
Jul 19, 2024
#24331
Gary ViderGary Vider

The NBA is better for basketball fans when the Knicks are doing well

it's better for basketball if the Knicks are doing well, it's better for basketball. Same with hockey. If the Rangers go well. Brunson is out. Amazing. And I met him at a game and he's such a nice guy.

Success in major markets generally correlates with higher ratings and fan interest, but it's a matter of opinion.

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