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Danny Ainge In Studio, Celtics In The Finals, Mavs Up 3-0, Remembering Bill Walton And 35 Minutes From Our 2017 Interview With Him

Tuesday, May 28, 202416 takes

We remember the legend that is Bill Walton after his passing on Monday (-). The Celtics clinch the Eastern Conference and are headed to the Finals (-). The Mavs spent the weekend beating the Wolves and Luka/Kyrie are playing on another level (-). The Rangers go up 2-1 and Memes is in hell (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Angel Hernandez retiring, Draymond Green crying poor, Nadal losing at the French Open and more (-). We welcome Danny Aigne in studio to talk about his career in basketball, being an incredible 3 sport athlete, the 86 Celtics and great Bill Walton stories, moving into an executive role, trading for KG and Ray Allen, rebuilding the Celtics and his role with the Jazz now (-). We finish with Pardon Your Take (-). Plus a very special re-release of 35 minutes of our 2017 interview with Bill Walton for all new listeners (check out the video version as well that hasnt been released until today) (-).

Danny Ainge and a Tribute to Bill Walton: Celtics, Mavs, and the NBA Finals

The sports world lost a mountain of joy this week with the passing of Bill Walton. Big Cat and PFT opened the show reflecting on a man who was truly one of one. He was a walking sunbeam who lived for the Pac-12, the Grateful Dead, and being the luckiest man on earth. While the news was a gut punch, the guys celebrated a life lived at full volume, culminating in the re-release of their legendary 2017 interview with him.

Win
May 28, 2024
#24256
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Bill Walton died because his work on earth was done once the Pac-12 ended

The Pac-12 ends, Bill's like, well my work here is done. [He's] probably hanging out with Jerry Garcia right now and the Pac-12 is on 24/7.

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Bill Walton did pass away shortly after the final Pac-12 sporting events, making this a humorous but verifiable coincidence.

Eastern Conference Merchant No More

Hank is officially insufferable because the Boston Celtics have punched their ticket to the NBA Finals. After sweeping the Pacers in what was technically a "hard-fought" four games, the Celtics look like they finally have the poise to match their talent. Big Cat noted that the ghosts of playoff failures past seem to have been exorcised by Jrue Holiday and a more mature core.

Win
May 28, 2024
#19551
HankHank

The Celtics are a seasoned team that has overcome their past tendencies to 'turtle up' in close games

The Celtics are a seasoned team that knows how to make big plays and that's what they did time and time again in this series. In the past when it feels like they turtle up in close games... they didn't do that at all. They found a way to win.

The Celtics did indeed sweep the Pacers and won multiple close games in the series, supporting Hank's observation of their improved 'clutch' gene.

Despite the sweep, Big Cat and PFT couldn't help but roast the NBA's bizarre scheduling. With the Finals set for June 6th regardless of how fast the conference finals wrap up, we are looking at a massive gap in meaningful basketball.

Win
May 28, 2024
#19553
Big CatBig Cat

The NBA Finals schedule is idiotic for making fans wait until June 6th regardless of when the conference finals end

I'm rooting for double sweep just so we can make fun of the NBA scheduling. Fans have to book their hotels and tickets months ago... there's no way an NBA fan books their hotels and plane tickets for the Finals months in advance. It doesn't make any sense.

The NBA Finals did in fact start on June 6th, despite both conference finals series being short (sweep and 5 games).

The Mavs are Glaze-Worthy

Out West, Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving are doing things to the Timberwolves that should probably be illegal in most states. PFT gave some love to a take that was once laughed at but now looks prophetic: the idea that these two might be the most lethal offensive duo we've seen in the backcourt. Luka's emasculation of Rudy Gobert on the perimeter was a turning point in the series, and Kyrie has yet to lose a closeout game.

Void
May 28, 2024
#19554
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving are the best offensive backcourt of all time

Kyrie and Luka, the best offensive backcourt of all time. And people laughed at [Kenny the Jet Smith] and then they played three games and they're like, maybe he's not that far off.

The Mavs reached the Finals on the strength of this backcourt, but 'all time' is subjective and highly debated.

Max tried to keep the Philly energy alive by arguing that Kyrie’s championship pedigree makes him a tier above the Celtics' defensive specialists.

Void
May 28, 2024
#19561
MaxMax

Kyrie Irving is a better player than Jrue Holiday

Kyrie's better... than Jrue Holiday? Yeah. Because I don't think he's better than Tatum but has hasn't been playing out of this, out of his mind. Their championship experience supersedes the Celtics because their championship guy is better.

Subjective player comparison, though Kyrie is generally considered the more skilled offensive player while Jrue is a defensive specialist.

Despite being down 3-0, PFT is still holding out hope for a historic collapse. The Wolves have built leads in the fourth quarter of every game only to see them evaporate under a barrage of Luka step-backs. PFT thinks if they can just steal one without Dereck Lively II in the lineup, things could get weird.

Loss
May 28, 2024
#19556
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm sprinkling a bet on the Timberwolves to be the first team to come back from down 3-0

I may put a little future on the Wolves to be the first team to come back and... Timberwolves plus a thousand. They just can't be any worse. And the thing is, they're not playing good, but they're still building leads into the fourth quarter.

The Timberwolves lost the series 4-1, failing to become the first team to come back from 3-0.

Cultural Think Pieces and Hot Seats

Big Cat and PFT took a detour into the WNBA, specifically the exhausting discourse surrounding Caitlin Clark. Between hard fouls being treated like sociological case studies and seven different think pieces appearing after every game, the fun is being sucked out of the sport at record speed.

Void
May 28, 2024
#19558
Big CatBig Cat

The WNBA fans and media are ruining the fun of sports with cultural think pieces

Caitlin Clark is adding so many new fans and there's a lot of fans that are just taking the fun out of sports. Everything that happens in the WNBA now has to be a fucking bigger cultural talking point. It's like, hey, it's fucking sports. Shut the fuck up... there's seven think pieces after every game she plays.

This is a subjective opinion on sports media trends.
Void
May 28, 2024
#24257
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Caitlin Clark has a marketing problem because every game results in cultural think pieces

I actually feel bad for Caitlin Clark... what's happening is there's no way that she can tune out all this stuff. I've got seven people on slate.com writing about why Caitlin Clark is problematic for the league and how the league has a marketing problem.

The take is subjective based on personal media consumption and the volume of opinion pieces published during Clark's rookie season.

On Hot Seat/Cool Throne, Big Cat put Draymond Green on the Hot Seat for complaining about NBA fines. When you’ve made nearly $200 million and most of your fines come from punching teammates or choking opponents, the "system is keeping me poor" argument doesn't quite land.

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Big CatBig Cat

Draymond Green is 'going out sad' and only complaining because his career is ending

I think Draymond Green knows it's over and he's going out really sad, just complaining. He's made $177 million... for him to say that the fines are the big problem... I think there might be a small part of him when he goes to bed at night, he's like, did I call Steph like a couple rings? And it's over. He's grasping at whatever he can to try to keep it going.

Subjective psychological analysis of a player's career arc.

Danny Ainge In-Studio

Executive legend Danny Ainge joined the show to discuss his career as a three-sport athlete and his current role with the Utah Jazz. Ainge didn't hold back on his belief that his 1986 Celtics team remains the gold standard for NBA history, dismissing any comparisons to the 72-win Bulls.

Void
May 28, 2024
#19569
Danny AingeDanny Ainge

The 1986 Celtics are the greatest team of all time, better than the 1996 Bulls

No, no, no. Not up there. It's above [the 1996 Bulls]... Best team of all time. In my unbiased team... we were 50 and 1 [at home]. That's insane... we just assumed [playing the Lakers in the Finals] was gonna happen. We weren't gonna lose either way.

Subjective comparison of historically great teams.

He also shared some incredible behind-the-scenes stories about Bill Walton. While Walton was a basketball savant, Ainge revealed that Bill’s confidence far exceeded his actual skill when it came to the chess board.

Void
May 28, 2024
#24259
Danny AingeDanny Ainge

Bill Walton thought he was a chess genius but actually sucked at it

We thought he was like a chess genius... Finally one day I challenged to play him and I beat him and then Jerry Sichting challenged to play him and he beat him. And we said, you can't ever talk chess again. You are not good.

Subjective recollection of personal teammates' interactions.

When asked about his philosophy on building a roster, Ainge explained that he’s always willing to bet on high-level athleticism and intelligence, believing that specific skills can be developed over time if the foundation is there.

Void
May 28, 2024
#19571
Danny AingeDanny Ainge

If a player is a great athlete and has a good brain, shooting is the skill they can always learn

I mean, if a guy is a great athlete and a good player has a good brain but can't shoot, I think that's a good bet... they can learn that. Like Scotty Pippen, Magic Johnson... they weren't great shooters... they still would've been great players. Kawhi Leonard was another guy that wasn't a great shooter in college and turned out to be one of the best.

This is a scouting philosophy, though supported by historical examples like Kawhi Leonard and Jason Kidd.

However, even the master of the "Trader Danny" era has a few regrets. He admitted that missing out on a certain Heat legend still sticks with him.

Void
May 28, 2024
#19570
Danny AingeDanny Ainge

Jimmy Butler is my biggest draft regret

I would say Jimmy Butler is the first one that comes to mind. It was, you know, he was a late first round pick and he was seriously in our thoughts of drafting and we went another direction.

Subjective regret from a GM about his own past decisions.

Between the nostalgia of the Walton interview and the insight from Ainge, this episode served as a perfect bridge between the old guard and the current NBA chaos. If the Mavs close this out, we’re in for a long week of waiting, but at least we have Bill Walton stories to get us through.

Shine on, Bill.

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Big CatBig Cat

Conor McGregor will lose to Michael Chandler in his return fight

I love this energy. I think he's probably gonna lose to Michael Chandler. But I like the fact that Conor McGregor just like us is like, it's Memorial Day weekend. Like diet starts Tuesday. Fight camp starts Tuesday.

The fight between McGregor and Chandler was postponed and ultimately did not happen on the originally scheduled date of June 29, 2024.
Void
May 28, 2024
#19566
Danny AingeDanny Ainge

Michael Jordan is the best player I ever played against

Well, Michael Jordan. Yeah, I would say that's fair answer... Michael is so fun to play with, right. I mean, he's a great competitor as we all know.

This is a subjective opinion based on Ainge's personal experience playing in the NBA.
Void
May 28, 2024
#24258
Danny AingeDanny Ainge

My wife fell for me because I dominated her previous boyfriend in flag football at BYU

That's close [to what happened]. He played center, I played quarterback... that's what I claimed to my wife. That's when she fell for me. I wasn't supposed to be playing flag football.

Personal anecdote about his own life and romantic history.

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