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Draymond Green, SB Talk With Scott Zolak, NBA Trades + Guys On Hank

Wednesday, February 4, 202618 takes

Super Bowl Week Day 2 and the Hank vs PFT rivalry is heating up. We talk about the bullshit international games, Bob Kraft being snubbed and NBA trades (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Lindsey Vonn and the Grammy’s we didn’t watch (-). Draymond Green joins the show for an awesome interview about his career, possibly being traded, playing Defense at an elite level, Steph Curry, Tom Izzo, ball kicks and tons more (-). Scott Zolak joins to talk Patriots, Super Bowl, stories of backing up Dan Marino and how he thinks the game is going to go (-). We finish with Guys on Hank (-).

Draymond Green on Warriors Trades, Zolak on Super Bowl, and Guys On Hank

Hank week is in full swing and the energy in the room is somewhere between Super Bowl fever and a fever caused by whatever sickness Zach brought into the office. Before getting to the heavy hitters, Big Cat and PFT Commenter had to address Roger Goodell’s latest attempt to colonize the entire planet with football. The NFL is adding nine international games in 2026, including a trip to Australia that sounds like a logistics nightmare involving a 21-hour flight. Big Cat is already calling the end of the sport as we know it.

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Feb 4, 2026
#3143
Big CatBig Cat

Every NFL team will eventually be forced to play an international game annually

And the worst part about it is this is clearly going to keep going up and up and up. It's not gonna go backwards. It's gonna go more until every single team... there'll be 16 international games and every single team will have to play in an international game.

The NFL has already expanded the international series to 8+ games, making the move to 16 for all teams a logical future progression.

The guys also touched on the officiating situation after Goodell claimed the refs are doing a great job. PFT isn't buying it, arguing that the modern official is spending too much time on their biceps and not enough time on the rulebook.

Void
Feb 4, 2026
#3144
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

NFL referees are too focused on physical fitness and should spend more time in the lab

Here's my problem with refs. They've gotten too focused on physical fitness recently. We used to have one jacked ref that was Ed Hochuli. All these other guys are like, I wanna have big arms too. They need to be in the lab, not in the gym.

The quality of officiating is subjective and debated weekly, but the 'jacked ref' trend is a visible phenomenon.

NBA Trade Deadline & Breaking Moos

The NBA trade deadline hit right as the show was being recorded, leading to an emergency "Breaking Moos" segment with Max at the insider desk. The Memphis Grizzlies are officially blowing it up by moving Jaren Jackson Jr. to the Jazz, but the real talk centered on the Bulls and Celtics making lateral moves. Hank, ever the optimist, thinks the Celtics' front office is clearing space for a massive return.

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Feb 4, 2026
#23351
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Anthony Richardson will follow the Sam Darnold path and become a successful NFL starter after initial struggles with his first team.

The quarterbacks that will then become like the next Sam Darnolds... I added Anthony Richardson to the list. [He] would have to go to like Minnesota or, or LA maybe.

The outcome of Anthony Richardson's career trajectory remains to be seen.

Draymond Green

Draymond Green joined the show for what Big Cat called a top-ten interview in PMT history. He didn't hold back on his reputation as a lightning rod or the rumors surrounding his potential trade from the Warriors. When the conversation turned to the Kevin Durant era in Golden State, Draymond addressed the two competing narratives: that he begged KD to join or that he bullied him into leaving.

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Feb 4, 2026
#3146
HankHank

The Celtics' trade for Nikola Vucevic is a clear sign that Jayson Tatum will be returning to the lineup soon.

I like this trade... Well V[ucevic]—it also means Jayson Tatum's coming back... because if Tatum comes back, those are minutes like Simmons has been playing, but if T comes back, those minutes are gone.

Hank predicted the Celtics' Vucevic trade (completed Feb 3, 2026) was a 'clear sign' Jayson Tatum would be returning to the lineup soon. As of March 3, 2026, Tatum has still not played a single game this season following his Achilles rupture, and has publicly said he hasn't decided whether he'll return at all this year. The resolves_by date of Feb 28 has passed with no Tatum return.

Beyond the drama, Draymond gave a masterclass on the nuances of the game. He broke down the art of setting the perfect screen for Steph Curry and why he believes his mental game separates him from the rest of the league. He even listed out the players he thinks belong in his elite bracket of processing speed.

Void
Feb 4, 2026
#23354
Big CatBig Cat

James Harden is a first-ballot 'I gotta take care of me first' Hall of Famer.

James Harden is, I'll say this about James Harden. He is maybe first ballot hall of fame. I gotta take care of me first guy, wouldn't you say? He's always like, Hey, what can I do for James Harden?

This is a subjective characterization of a player's career approach.

He also took a moment to show some tough love to former rival Matthew Dellavedova. While he respects the grit it took for an unathletic guy to guard the greatest shooter ever, he wasn't exactly complimentary about the pure talent level.

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Feb 4, 2026
#23353
Big CatBig Cat

Ayo Dosunmu and Coby White will both be traded by the Bulls by the end of the deadline.

Also a sign that probably IO and Kobe White are going to be moved and they might, when you're listening to this, they might have already been traded.

Big Cat predicted both Ayo Dosunmu and Coby White would be traded by the Bulls at the deadline. Both were indeed traded: Coby White was sent to the Charlotte Hornets, and Ayo Dosunmu was traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves before the February 2026 deadline.

Scott Zolak & Super Bowl Preview

Scott Zolak joined the show to give a boots-on-the-ground report from the Patriots' Super Bowl run. The vibes in New England have shifted from a rebuilding year to a legit title threat under Mike Vrabel and Drake May. Zolak is fully bought into the May hype, despite some of the weird statistical anomalies PFT dug up. When it comes to the Hall of Fame, Zolak is disgusted that Bill Belichick was snubbed from being a first-ballot entry.

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Big CatBig Cat

The Super Bowl halftime show is for chicks

The Super Bowl halftime show is—is—is for chicks... I don't think the average NFL fan is like, man, I hope this Super Bowl halftime show is awesome. I don't give a fuck.

Halftime shows consistently draw huge ratings, often exceeding the game itself, indicating broad appeal beyond just 'chicks'.

Zolak isn't just here to complain, though; he's here to pick winners. He thinks the Patriots' defense is going to rattle Sam Darnold and that New England’s ability to stay in every game this year will be the difference-maker on Sunday.

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Feb 4, 2026
#3154
Draymond GreenDraymond Green

The claim that I ran Kevin Durant out of Golden State is closer to the truth than the claim that I begged him to join the team.

The one that is probably closest to the truth is I ran [Kevin Durant] out of town... Because I'm not begging anyone for this... I don't quite know if I ran him myself. But I'll take that one.

Draymond is confirming a long-standing rumor about internal team dynamics.

He’s even going as far as picking the exact player to cross the goal line first to kick off the scoring.

Void
Feb 4, 2026
#3152
Draymond GreenDraymond Green

Matthew Dellavedova stinks and has zero athleticism

I have a ton of respect for Deli. 'cause he's so, so hard-nosed, but like both things can be true. Like I can have a ton of respect for him and he stink... The man was like guarding the hell outta Steph Curry... He has zero athleticism.

Dellavedova's career stats are modest, but he was a key role player on a championship team; the 'stinks' label is subjective and competitive.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne & Guys On Hank

Hot Seat/Cool Throne covered everything from Groundhog Day to the Grammys. Big Cat officially declared war on the Super Bowl halftime show, mostly because it interrupts the flow of gambling and eating pizza rolls.

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Feb 4, 2026
#23352
Big CatBig Cat

The Timberwolves are clearing cap space to make a massive run at Giannis Antetokounmpo.

This feels like the Timberwolves are moving money around to maybe go for Giannis.

This is a speculative trade rumor that has not materialized.

The show wrapped up with the inaugural segment of "Guys On Hank," where listeners sent in their most burning questions for the man of the week. Hank had to navigate tough hypotheticals about the Celtics' future and defend his excessive golfing habits, though he mostly just seemed confused by the visual of a giant cock memes sent him.

If the Patriots lose this weekend, prepare your stomachs for a legendary return of Soggy Sorrows.

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More Takes

Void
Feb 4, 2026
#3150
Draymond GreenDraymond Green

I have a top-five basketball IQ in the NBA

I definitely 1000% have a top five basketball IQ in the NBA for sure... Myself, [LeBron], Joker... Chris Paul... and Luca.

Basketball IQ is subjective, but Draymond is widely cited by coaches and peers as one of the smartest defenders ever.
Void
Feb 4, 2026
#23355
Draymond GreenDraymond Green

There will never be another player in NBA history who is guarded as heavily or uniquely as Steph Curry.

There will never be a player guarded like that again. The NBA has never seen it and will never see it again. That's why when everybody's complaining about yo, like why are they grabbing him like that? ... But this is the first time they've ever seen that. It's not as easy to referee as people think it is.

A historical claim about the future uniqueness of a player's impact.
Void
Feb 4, 2026
#23356
Draymond GreenDraymond Green

Steve Kerr's offensive system, not just the individual talent, is primarily responsible for changing how the game is played.

He's the one that brought the offensive style that changed the way the game is played... he then came in and brought a system that created that. No one speaks about that. It's always like, oh man, like Steph's the greatest shooter ever... but how did Steph end up in that offense? So who, who, who did that?

This is an internal team perspective on the cause of their success.
Void
Feb 4, 2026
#23357
Draymond GreenDraymond Green

The 'know-how' of winning a championship is the most underrated factor in NBA success, and it's why the Warriors won in 2022.

One of the most underrated things about winning a championship... is the knowhow. In 2022 We won because we just knew how. We knew how to do it. That is one of the most underrated things... it is the most underrated thing when coming to winning a championship.

A philosophical take on the intangible factors of winning.
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Feb 4, 2026
#23358
Scott ZolakScott Zolak

Sam Darnold will turn the ball over once or twice and effectively hand the game to the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

I think they're gonna go after [Sam Darnold] early in this game. I think that's, that's how you win this game... because he will give you one or two. I've seen it before with the Jets.

Sam Darnold had 0 turnovers in Super Bowl LX (and 0 in the entire 2025 playoffs). The Seahawks won 29-13. It was Patriots QB Drake Maye who had 3 turnovers.
Void
Feb 4, 2026
#3156
Scott ZolakScott Zolak

Bill Belichick not being a first-ballot Hall of Famer is an embarrassment

Bill Belichick not making into the Hall of Fame first ballot... It's an embarrassment. This is based on your career and your accolades and what you've done. This isn't a personality contest.

Belichick's record is objectively the greatest in modern NFL history; exclusion would be a historic outlier.
Loss
Feb 4, 2026
#3158
Scott ZolakScott Zolak

The Patriots will beat the Seahawks 27-20 in the Super Bowl

I'm going 27-20... because the reason I'm taking New England is I've done these games for 14 years now and no other season was there a game where they let go of the rope and they got blown out.

Patriots lost Super Bowl LX to the Seahawks 13-29. Zolak predicted Patriots would win 27-20.
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Feb 4, 2026
#3160
Scott ZolakScott Zolak

Rhamondre Stevenson will score the first touchdown of the Super Bowl

Rhamondre Stevenson... I think he's gonna run it in from about the six.

Rhamondre Stevenson did score a TD in Super Bowl LX (late Q4 catch from Maye), but it was NOT the first TD. The first TD was scored by Seahawks TE AJ Barner on a 16-yard pass from Darnold.

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