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Jeff Saturday, Week 15 Picks And Previews, And The Chargers Quit On Life

Friday, December 15, 202320 takes

The Chargers have quit and we have a Mark Davis theory about Thursday Night Football (-). We then get into Week 15 picks and preview and it was a loopy one taking detours to talk about PFT's facial hair, a 105 year old Bengals fan, the Cowboys tackling dummies and more (-). Fantasy Fuccbois (-). Jeff Saturday joins the show to talk about the NFL, playing with Peyton Manning, team defense and fixes for the Lions and Eagles, sweaty asses and more (-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week (-).

Jeff Saturday on Playing with Peyton, the Chiefs' Struggles, and Week 15 Picks

The vibes were high and the sleep was low as Big Cat and PFT recorded a mid-blowout edition of the show while the Raiders were busy hanging 42 points on the Chargers in a single half. It was a historic display of a team completely checking out on their head coach, and the guys didn't miss the chance to eulogize Brandon Staley's career in real-time.

Win
Dec 15, 2023
#11059
Big CatBig Cat

Brandon Staley will be fired immediately following the Chargers' blowout loss to the Raiders

I think Brandon Staley might get fired or he is fired already. He might be fired overnight. He might be fired right after this game because we're taping the rare taping in the third quarter of Thursday Night Football. It is 42 to zero. The Las Vegas Raiders versus the Los Angeles Chargers. PFT. He's gone. He has to be gone right now.

Brandon Staley was indeed fired the following morning, December 15, 2023.

PFT was particularly ruthless regarding the legacy Staley leaves behind. For a guy who was once hailed as the boy genius of the spreadsheet era, his defense's inability to stop anything on the field has left the math guys looking for cover.

Void
Dec 15, 2023
#11060
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Brandon Staley has set the analytics community back 40 years

Really you could say Brandon Staley has set the analytics community back like 40 years. Because he's known as the analytics poster boy, the Wonder kid of the analytics movement and the fact that his teams have fallen apart so terribly really makes you think like, I don't want my head coach ever look at a number again.

The impact on the analytics community is subjective and hyperbolic, but Staley's failure did become a common talking point against purely analytical decision-making.

Week 15 Previews and Picks

The Saturday slate of games is officially back, which usually signals the start of the NFL's hostile takeover of our entire holiday weekends. While the league eyes global expansion, PFT is drawing a line in the sand regarding where the biggest game of the year should stay.

Open
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11061
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NFL will eventually host a Super Bowl overseas

They are trying like damn hell to get a Super Bowl overseas and we have to stop it. So let's all not watch the first quarter next year of all these games.

While international games are expanding, a Super Bowl has not yet been scheduled or played overseas.

Moving to the actual games, the guys went deep on the Bengals and Vikings matchup. Jake Browning has been a great story, and PFT thinks there is some real staying power for Cincinnati's playoff hopes, even without Joe Burrow.

Loss
Dec 15, 2023
#21713
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Bengals could win a playoff game with Jake Browning at quarterback

I think the Bengals actually have a chance they could make some noise in the playoffs. How about that? I don't think that they have a chance to win the Super Bowl. I, but I, I could see them winning a playoff game with Jake Browning.

The Bengals finished 9-8 and missed the playoffs entirely, so Browning never got a chance to play a postseason game.

Big Cat, however, isn't sold on the Browning magic holding up against Brian Flores. He’s buying the Vikings' defense to make life miserable for the backup quarterback in a game that could go sideways quickly.

Loss
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11062
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings will beat the Bengals because Brian Flores' defense will confuse Jake Browning

I kind of like the Vikings in this game. And I like him because Brian Flores... is doing stuff that people can't even figure out with his defense zone. Blitzes just... he's doing a lot of multiples... I think that this is gonna be Jake Browning's first test. True test because the Colts and the Jaguars aren't great defenses. The Vikings have been playing like a great defense.

The Bengals beat the Vikings 27-24 in overtime.

In one of the weirdest logic leaps of the preview, Big Cat is all over the Steelers this week. Despite Pittsburgh losing to the dregs of the league recently, he’s convinced that the "Tomlin bounce back" is an inevitable law of the universe.

Loss
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11063
Big CatBig Cat

You must bet the Steelers to bounce back against the Colts after losing to the league's worst teams

The Steelers just lost to the Cardinals and the Patriots. Two of the worst four teams in the NFL. Mitch [Trubisky] looked really bad. The Steelers have looked really bad. You have to bet the Steelers. That's the vibe. The harder they bounce back.

The Steelers lost to the Colts 30-13.

Jeff Saturday Joins the Show

Former Colts head coach and Super Bowl champion center Jeff Saturday hopped on to talk some ball and settle the score on some of Peyton Manning’s recent comments. Saturday gave some incredible insight into the "rest vs. rust" debate that plagues every top seed this time of year.

Void
Dec 15, 2023
#21716
Jeff SaturdayJeff Saturday

It is more important for NFL teams to maintain rhythm by playing starters late in the season than it is to rest them

I think playing is the most important. I think what I learned throughout was timing and rhythm matter... so many times I thought we had the better team, but not playing up to those points, you got back out there, you kinda had to find the rhythm... I was much more about playing.

This is a perpetual debate in NFL strategy and is inherently subjective.

He also didn't hold back on the current state of the Saints' locker room. After seeing Derek Carr get yelled at by his own offensive linemen, Saturday noted that a quarterback playing at 80% capacity is often doing more harm than good for the team's chemistry.

Void
Dec 15, 2023
#11069
Jeff SaturdayJeff Saturday

Derek Carr is hurting the Saints by playing at 80% while significantly injured

If you're not playing to the level that we need you to play to, you are hurting us... the game is played in the margins and there's too many good players, right? It's just too many dudes who are that good at 70, 80%. Man, you just ain't cutting it... When you're seeing guys at each other in repeated weeks, that's when you know something's really there.

The take is subjective expert analysis on team dynamics and performance impact.

The conversation shifted to the struggling Chiefs, who look like a shell of their former selves. Saturday pointed to the departure of Eric Bieniemy as a massive loss for the team’s overall discipline and edge on the offensive side of the ball.

Void
Dec 15, 2023
#11070
Jeff SaturdayJeff Saturday

Eric Bieniemy's absence is a major reason for the Chiefs' offensive struggles and lack of discipline

The enemy not being there, it matters. I'm not saying that Andy Reed and these guys aren't great coaches, but Bieniemy had some nastiness about him, right? He had some significant conversations with their players, whether that's Mahomes or other people. And with him not being there, it does get into a place where maybe some things have been allowed or tolerated to a different degree... I do think the enemy not being there hurts because those players in the room are ultimately the guys who have to execute it.

While the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, their regular season offense was statistically worse than in the Bieniemy years, supporting the 'struggles' part of the take.

Before letting him go, the guys asked for his Super Bowl prediction. While many are jumping off the Eagles' bandwagon after a few rough weeks, Saturday is staying the course, though he ultimately sees a collision course between the two most physical teams in the league.

Loss
Dec 15, 2023
#11071
Jeff SaturdayJeff Saturday

The Super Bowl will be a matchup between the 49ers and the Ravens

I'm gonna go... I think it's gonna be KC in Baltimore and the AFC, I think Baltimore's gonna go... and I think San Fran... I'm taking San Fran and Phi... I'm taking San Fran walking through it to play [the winner of the AFC].

The Ravens lost to the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game, so they did not make the Super Bowl.

Fantasy Fuccbois and Fyre Fest

The episode wrapped up with a loopy edition of Fantasy Fuccbois featuring a very distracted Hank and PFT's new, suspiciously dark mustache. PFT claims it’s for the holidays, but the guys spent half the segment trying to figure out why he looks like a Civil War general.

Between PFT's new hobby of magnet fishing for guns in the Chicago River and Big Cat being held hostage by his four-year-old son’s threats to scream the house down, it’s clear the holiday stress is starting to peak.

Good luck to everyone in the first round of the fantasy playoffs, except for whoever is playing against a Deebo Samuel owner.

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More Takes

Win
Dec 15, 2023
#21714
Big CatBig Cat

The Lions will beat and cover the spread against the Broncos

I think the Lions are gonna win this game. I think they're gonna cover this game. I, the Lions at home indoors have been different... I think this is the spot to buy back on the Lions. Like they, they're gonna get home.

The Lions defeated the Broncos 42-17, easily covering the 4-point spread.
Win
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11064
Big CatBig Cat

Aaron Rodgers' injury is the most human thing ever, not a superhuman recovery

Aaron Rogers is not even human. I'd actually say missing the entire season because you got injured is the most human thing ever. Well, was he injured scenes? That was, I mean, he's literally showing that he's human. The fact that he hasn't been playing.

Rodgers did not return to play in the 2023 season, confirming he was, in fact, injured and unable to play.
Loss
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11065
HankHank

The report that the Patriots have decided to fire Bill Belichick is 'fake news'

As a Patriots fan on this podcast, I'm just gonna say that that seems like fake news to me. Seems like a fake news media report from Tom Curran. You know, the media's been out to get us since 2000... Belichick didn't do anything wrong... there's no chance. 0% chance. I don't think Belichick would leave.

Belichick and the Patriots 'mutually agreed to part ways' on January 11, 2024, essentially confirming the reports were accurate.
Win
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11066
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL wants the Chiefs to play on Wild Card weekend to maximize ratings from Taylor Swift fans

I think if the NFL wanted anything, they should want the Chiefs not to get the bye. 'cause that's one extra game of ratings for the Swifties Super Wild Card weekend.

The Chiefs did not get a bye (Ravens did) and played on Wild Card weekend against the Dolphins.
Win
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11067
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Birds stand facing into the wind because they like 'adversity'

Did you know that? You can tell which way the wind is blowing by how birds are standing. Birds always stand facing into the wind. Oh, they like the adversity. They don't wanna get blown away too. Because if they, if the wind kind of gusts, then they just take off and fly away.

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Birds do typically face into the wind to keep their feathers from being ruffled and for easier takeoff, though they don't do it for 'adversity'.
Win
Dec 15, 2023·Picks
#11068
HankHank

Dolphins fans are insufferable and it would be funny to see them lose the AFC East

Dolphins fans are annoyingly cocky and Bills fans... I feel more of a connection to... Dolphins fans are insufferable. Like they're super annoying. They're super cocky. They haven't won shit. And seeing them blow a season and somehow lose the AFC East would be funny.

The Dolphins did eventually lose the AFC East to the Bills in Week 18.
Win
Dec 15, 2023
#21715
Big CatBig Cat

The Bills will beat the Cowboys

The Cowboys are a completely different team away from home. I like the Bills. What's the line in this game? One and a half... I like the Bills.

The Bills dominated the Cowboys 31-10.
Loss
Dec 15, 2023
#21717
Jeff SaturdayJeff Saturday

The Eagles will "get right" and fix their issues over their final four regular season games

I said this on TV the other day, man, it drives me cra... like we've written the Eagles off really? They had two bad weeks. San Fran lost three in a row. These players can fix it. And, and I, I think the Eagles over these next four, you know, get right games, we'll get right and figure this thing out.

The Eagles completely collapsed, going 1-3 in their final four games with losses to the Seahawks, Cardinals, and Giants.
Loss
Dec 15, 2023
#21718
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

If I were on an NFL field, I would put 290-pound Miles Garrett on his ass

Imagine this, I tell people all the time, go, go for your job. Go line up and go block Miles Garrett and tell me you're not gonna try to back up as fast as you can. [PFT]: I'd put him on his ass. I go forward not backward.

PFT Commenter is not an NFL offensive lineman and would be instantly flattened by Miles Garrett.
Void
Dec 15, 2023
#21719
Jeff SaturdayJeff Saturday

Deebo Samuel is the most valuable player on the 49ers

I think Deebo Samuel... I think he's an MVP, right? Because if you see the way he plays and like look at their team when he's not on the field, it's as, it's as reflective as Tyreek Hill. Like this dude is, he is a freaking grown man, bro. And he is about it in all phases.

While Christian McCaffrey won Offensive Player of the Year, Deebo's unique value to the 49ers scheme makes this a persistent point of debate.

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