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Joe Buck 06/15/2016

Wednesday, June 15, 201617 takes

The guys discuss their recent brush with the fashion world and GQ magazine feature as well as the NBA Finals and whether or not Big Cat hates Lebron too much. Joe Buck joins the show to talk about the upcoming US Open, his favorite call, whether or not he regrets the Randy Moss mooning, and how comfortable he is farting around Troy Aikman. Segments include "Hurt or Injured" Carlos Williams gaining sympathy pregnancy weight, "Sabermetrics" for Pete Rose, "Ya Think?!?" Aka "No Duh" and everyone's favorite game "Spoilers".

Joe Buck on the U.S. Open, Troy Aikman’s Heat, and Hating the Saints

Big Cat and PFT Commenter are officially cover models after a write-up in GQ, though they admit the written word makes them seem much more charming than they actually are. The guys discuss the evolution of their brand, including Big Cat’s refusal to buy new clothes and the potential for a transcription service to help their deaf fans finally experience the takes. They also check in on the new FS1 show *Speak for Yourself*, noting that while they lack fedoras, Jason Whitlock might be overestimating his ability to pull one off.

LeBron’s Legacy and the Draymond Conspiracy

The NBA Finals are in full swing, and Big Cat is having a crisis of conscience. After watching Game 5, he’s starting to realize that his hatred for LeBron James might be blinding him to greatness. While Kyrie Irving stole the show with a historic shot-making performance, Big Cat is beginning to wonder if he’ll actually miss having LeBron to kick around.

Void
Jun 15, 2016
#16375
Big CatBig Cat

Kyrie Irving's Game 5 performance was more impressive than Steph Curry's typical hot streaks

This is a hot take that I actually think is correct. What Kyrie did game five was more impressive than like when Steph Curry goes off. Because when Steph Curry goes off, he hits a lot of threes... Kyrie was hitting everything. He was hitting floaters. He was hitting jumpers. He was going to the rim.

While Kyrie was incredibly efficient (17/24), 'impressiveness' is subjective and debatable among basketball fans.

They also dive into the Draymond Green suspension. Between Draymond watching the game in a suite with Marshawn Lynch and the suspicious timing of the league's discipline, the guys smell a rat. PFT is fully on board with the idea that the league office wanted to ensure this series went back to Cleveland for the ratings.

Void
Jun 15, 2016
#16376
Big CatBig Cat

Draymond Green was secretly rooting against the Warriors in Game 5 so he wouldn't miss the clinching moment

I think Draymond was probably rooting against the Warriors I don't think that's that crazy... Draymond is the kind of guy that he's a little bit more out there emotionally. He's the kind of guy that might feel slighted if he's not part of that winning moment.

While unprovable, it fits Draymond's known competitive personality, though publicly he would never admit it.
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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA suspended Draymond Green specifically to extend the Finals for ratings

Former NBA referee Tim Donaghy says that the NBA suspended Draymond Green to try to extend the series to get higher ratings and more money. You think? No, duh.

While a popular conspiracy theory, there is no verifiable evidence of this league-wide directive.

Joe Buck Joins the Program

Joe Buck joins the show ahead of the U.S. Open at Oakmont to prove he isn't the "stiff, prudish dork" the internet thinks he is. He immediately wins points by leaning into the whisper voice and acknowledging that he is widely perceived to hate every single team he calls games for. To make it official, he decides to finally lean into the bias and pick a permanent enemy.

Loss
Jun 15, 2016
#16377
Joe BuckJoe Buck

I officially hate the New Orleans Saints and will root against them on broadcasts

Joe Buck now hates the Saints... I think we should go on record and at least have one that I actually can't stand. And I'm just over the top rooting against. And whoever they're playing that week, I will refer to as we.

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Buck is playing along with the PMT bit; he does not actually harbor professional bias against the Saints.

Buck gets remarkably candid about his broadcasting habits, including his penchant for a first-inning "mega beer" to calm the nerves and remind himself that it’s just a game. He also revisits the infamous Randy Moss "disgusting act" call, standing by his original reaction while admitting his Midwestern roots might have been showing.

Win
Jun 15, 2016
#27398
Joe BuckJoe Buck

I drank a beer during the first inning of every playoff game I called to remind myself it's just a game

I got into the habit of having one of the runners go down and get me one of the mega beers from a concession stand. And I'd sip the beer during the first inning. And it wasn't to get drunk, obviously... it was to remind myself that I was at a frigging sporting event and nobody's hanging on every word... I just drank a beer in the first inning of every game of the playoffs.

Buck later confirmed this in his memoir and several other media appearances.
Void
Jun 15, 2016
#16378
Joe BuckJoe Buck

I would stand by my criticism of Randy Moss's mooning celebration even today

I would probably say the same thing again. it would be weak of me to say, yeah, I was a little bit too harsh and poor Randy... I thought it was over the top and ridiculous. Maybe my Midwestern roots came out. But believe me, I'm not scared. And if somebody doesn't like what I say or how I say it... I really don't give a shit anymore.

This is Joe's subjective professional stance on his own work.

Before letting him go, Big Cat asks the question on everyone's mind: how long does it take for a broadcast duo to get comfortable enough to pass gas in the booth? According to Joe, he and Troy Aikman didn't waste any time getting to that level of intimacy.

Win
Jun 15, 2016
#27402
Joe BuckJoe Buck

Troy Aikman and I were comfortable enough to fart around each other in the booth right out of the gate

At what point in your relationship did you guys get comfortable enough to fart around each other in the booth? [Buck]: Pretty much right out of the gate... Troy's that guy. And he's a guy's guy. And I remember one, the first time it happened, he said something like, 'I'm bringing some heat.' And I was like, 'What?' And he goes, 'Just don't worry about it.' And then we came back from commercial and I knew what he was talking about.

Stated as a first-hand account of his personal experience.

Hurt or Injured and Sabermetrics

In a classic "Hurt or Injured" segment, the guys look at Bills running back Carlos Williams, who showed up to camp out of shape because of his wife’s pregnancy. PFT isn't buying the sympathy weight excuse, suggesting that while it might be a "hurt," it certainly isn't a football injury.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Pregnancy is not an injury for a man; it is just being 'hurt'

I'm going to say that pregnancy is not an injury. A man's wife being pregnant is not an injury to the guy. It's a hurt to the guy... Pregnancy is technically a sexually transmitted disease. I think we all remember that from middle school health class.

This is a satirical bit; medically, pregnancy is not a disease or an injury for the husband.

Finally, the guys weigh in on Ichiro closing in on Pete Rose’s hit record. Pete Rose has been vocal about not wanting to be made the "hit queen," and PFT agrees that the overseas stats shouldn't carry the same weight as MLB hits.

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PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Ichiro's hits in Japan should not count toward his career total vs. Pete Rose

Sabermetrically speaking, do hits in Japan count the same as Major League Baseball hits? I would say no... Those hits don't count in the United States. Neither should Ichiro's.

Major League Baseball does not officially combine NPB and MLB stats for records, though Ichiro is widely celebrated for his 'professional' total.

Joe Buck might have roasted Big Cat for being a guy on a couch with his "putt" in his hand, but at least the podcast is still climbing the charts.

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Loss
Jun 15, 2016
#16373
Big CatBig Cat

The winning score at the 2016 U.S. Open will be plus 25

I heard the winning score is going to be like plus 25. Doesn't matter with DraftKings it will be fun the triple bogeys will be exhilarating.

Dustin Johnson won the 2016 U.S. Open with a score of -4. The cut was +6, but nowhere near +25.
Void
Jun 15, 2016
#16374
Big CatBig Cat

Fat guys should not wear fedoras

Jason Whitlock, way too fat to wear a fedora. Fat guys can't wear little hats like that.

This is a purely subjective fashion opinion.
Void
Jun 15, 2016
#27400
Big CatBig Cat

If a ball handler gets switched onto you in pickup basketball, you should foul them immediately to look like a tough guy

When I play pickup basketball... if they'll do pick and roll and then you get a ball handler on me. I basically just jump on them right away. You just got to foul them right away because what are the results? Either they score, you break your ankles, you look like an idiot, or you foul them and hurt them a little bit, and now you're the tough guy.

This is a matter of personal pickup basketball strategy.
Win
Jun 15, 2016
#27399
Joe BuckJoe Buck

Calling a World Series at Wrigley Field for the Cubs would be the highlight of my career

Doing a World Series at Wrigley Field for the Cubs would be the highlight of my career. And I own it. I wear it. I believe it. And I think it would be the biggest sports story of any of our lifetimes if that were to come to pass this year, next year, whenever.

He called the 2016 World Series later that year and has frequently cited it as his favorite/most meaningful assignment.
Void
Jun 15, 2016
#16379
Joe BuckJoe Buck

Dez Bryant caught the ball against the Packers in the playoffs

I was in the minority on that one. I thought that was a catch. And I think if Dez Bryant and Lambeau is not within a yard of the end zone, it's not an issue. But because he was and he was reaching for the touchdown, to me, that's what caused the ball to pop out.

The NFL later admitted the catch rule was flawed, though at the time it was ruled incomplete by the letter of the law.
Loss
Big CatBig Cat

David Stern is still secretly pulling the strings of the NBA behind the scenes

Adam Silver's not. Adam Silver cleaned up the league... Meanwhile David Stern is behind the scenes suspending Draymond Green and getting these ratings... he's the master puppet and I love it.

David Stern was retired at this point and not involved in daily league operations.
Void
Big CatBig Cat

It is worth breaking your elbow to save your phone from falling on the ground

[Darren McFadden] got [injured] trying to grab his phone because he dropped his phone. That's worth breaking your elbow for. Anyone who's broken their phone before knows if I put in front of you elbow or phone, you're taking elbow over phone all day.

A matter of subjective personal values.
Loss
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Peyton Hillis had a more successful pro career than anyone else on that Arkansas team, including Darren McFadden

People forget that the most successful pro career of anybody on that Arkansas team was Peyton Hillis. Madden cover boy.

Darren McFadden had double the career rushing yards (5,421 vs 2,832) and played significantly longer than Hillis.

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