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Judd Apatow, Kentucky Sports Radio, And Lance Armstrong Documentary

Friday, June 12, 202012 takes

We’re in a holding pattern of nothing so we whip through some stories. Is the new protest not protesting in the NFL? Is Saban too old? Is MLB serious? (-) Fyre Fest of the week with an all time Billy story. (-) Judd Apatow joins the show to talk about his new movie King of Staten Island, comedy in 2020, his start and sliding doors. (- ) Best of Kentucky Sports Radio including an all time call from Dilbert in Kentucky. (-) Lance Armstrong documentary review (-)

Judd Apatow on The King of Staten Island, Comedy Legends, and Lance Armstrong Review

Golf is back and the mustache vibes are high as the PGA Tour returns to our screens. Big Cat couldn't help but notice Brooks Koepka rocking a new look that needs to stay for the long haul.

Loss
Jun 12, 2020
#16891
Big CatBig Cat

Brooks Koepka should keep his mustache forever

[Brooks Koepka] looks so good though, that mustache. I hope he doesn't shave it because he is one of those guys that if he committed to the mustache life, he could be a mustache guy forever.

Koepka has shaved the mustache multiple times since this episode, so he did not commit to it forever.

The guys also touched on the return of sports broadcasting and the specific torture of Darren Rovell. Big Cat has a business model for the networks that involves paying for peace of mind.

Void
Jun 12, 2020
#16892
Big CatBig Cat

Sports leagues should offer a 'Darren Rovell-free' broadcast option for extra money

Just give me a Darren Rovell free option and I'll pay extra for that. Right? Even if he wasn't going to be on the original cast, they could be like, hey extra $10 a week to watch Sunday Night Football with no Darren Rovell on. I'd be like, yeah, just to be safe. To make sure that he doesn't show up.

While a specific 'Rovell-free' fee hasn't been implemented, many streaming services allow viewers to choose alternate feeds that avoid certain personalities.

As the NFL landscape shifts, Big Cat offered a bit of a paradoxical theory on the nature of the league's new stance on player expression.

Win
Jun 12, 2020
#27220
Big CatBig Cat

The NFL should let players protest so that it's no longer a protest

NFL is allowing them to protest so is the protest now to not protest? Well, I thought the hit protest like if someone says, hey go ahead and [protest], that's not protest. You have to now you have to now stand for the national anthem to protest the the ability like no you don't tell me what to do.

The NFL did eventually shift its stance to allow/support player expression, essentially making the act of kneeling less of a 'protest' against the league itself.

And because it wouldn't be a Friday without some college football talk, the guys addressed Paul Finebaum’s latest attempt to stay relevant by coming for the king of Tuscaloosa.

Win
Jun 12, 2020
#16893
Big CatBig Cat

Paul Finebaum's take on Nick Saban running out of time is just a result of him having no other takes

Paul Finebaum has run out of takes so his take now is that Nick Saban is running out of time. Oh, like we all like he's on the downside of his coaching career. He's 69 and he's going to be 69 this year. So he's like, yeah, he's too old.

Saban went on to win the National Championship in the 2020 season (Jan 2021) and several SEC titles before retiring in 2024, proving he was not 'running out of time' in 2020.

Judd Apatow on Creating Comedy

Judd Apatow joined the show to discuss his new film *The King of Staten Island*. He talked about the weight of fictionalizing Pete Davidson’s real-life trauma while keeping it funny, noting that he leans into the inherent weirdness of people to find the humor.

Void
Jun 12, 2020
#16894
Judd ApatowJudd Apatow

Authenticity is the key to comedy because real people are naturally weird

If you're authentic in your credible. People are funny. Anyway, right like you could if you're real people are weird like in real life people are just nuts. So you can if you telling you know, the story about someone's life and some lesson they learned or how they got through something hard if you take it seriously, it's still going to be funny.

This is a subjective creative philosophy.

Naturally, the conversation turned to *The Last Dance*. Judd looked at the infamous Flu Game through the lens of a storyteller, finding the comedy in the absurdity of the situation regardless of its factual accuracy.

Void
Jun 12, 2020
#16895
Judd ApatowJudd Apatow

Michael Jordan's 'Flu Game' pizza story is high comedy regardless of whether it's true

This brings us to the Michael Jordan eating a pizza during the NBA Finals question. What is funnier than that? Right? It's the the highest Stakes thing in the world... Whether it's eating a pizza or pretending to have eaten a pizza to cover up a mistake that's high comedy stakes. And what would the end of that movie be? Having the best game of your life while almost vomiting the entire time.

The truth of the story remains debated, but Apatow's take is an opinion on its comedic value.

Judd also shared stories about working with LeBron James on *Trainwreck*, dispelling any myths that the King was anything less than a total pro and a natural comedic talent on set.

Void
Jun 12, 2020
#27221
Judd ApatowJudd Apatow

LeBron James is as professional and funny as actual actors on a movie set

Lebron showed up early every day knowing his stuff having his own comedic ideas about it... LeBron is here in this room with us and he's forced to talk to us like we're a bunch of comedy nerds... he's kicking ass.

This is a subjective assessment of a performance and professional behavior.

Reflecting on his career, Judd discussed the movies that didn't necessarily burn up the box office but became cult favorites, proving that longevity often beats a massive opening weekend.

Win
Jun 12, 2020
#16897
Judd ApatowJudd Apatow

Underappreciated comedies like 'Walk Hard' and 'Popstar' are often more enjoyable to look back on than blockbusters

Walk Hard is a movie that made very little money. I think it's one of the funniest ones of all the ones we did... That's our favorite thing when you know, something feels dismissed at the time and it seems to hold up ten years later... [Popstar] is another great one. It is always a bummer when you don't have the box office you were hoping for... but you want something to make people happy.

Both movies have indeed seen a massive surge in 'cult' popularity and critical reappraisal since their release.

He even gave the guys some notes on their long-gestating project, *Boner Dog*, explaining that the key to any great comedy character is giving them a starting point that is less than ideal.

Void
Jun 12, 2020
#27222
Judd ApatowJudd Apatow

The best comedy characters start as 'brats' or 'terrible' people so they have room for growth

I feel like a lot of good comedy is people are terrible, they learn how to be less terrible... usually it is someone who's kind of a brat or acting out in some way. So I always think the worst the better in the beginning.

This is a subjective theory on storytelling.

Best of Kentucky Sports Radio

It is an annual tradition for Big Cat and PFT to take over the airwaves in Kentucky, and this year did not disappoint. The highlight of the segment was undoubtedly Dilbert from Corbin, Kentucky. Dilbert shared a harrowing yet heartwarming story about having to choose between stepping in dog poop for hours or helping birth a calf. Between his 10-pound birth weight and his father being a "heavy drinker" who named him after a comic strip, Dilbert might be the most PMT-coded caller in the history of the program.

The Lance Armstrong Documentary Review

To wrap things up, Big Cat and PFT shared their thoughts on the new Lance Armstrong documentary. Big Cat wasn't buying the redemption arc, seeing it as just another move from a man who can't live without the spotlight.

Void
Jun 12, 2020
#16899
Big CatBig Cat

Lance Armstrong is the most self-centered and selfish person in the world

Does who the fuck is Lance Armstrong think he's fooling to be like remorseful without remorse... he's realize he's he's the most self-centered person I think I've ever ever seen like that's not really an exaggeration I think he's the most selfish person the world but he's reached the point in his life where he's had to confront what a dick that he's been in public.

This is a strong character judgment based on the documentary portrayal.

PFT drew a direct comparison to another sports figure who only admits to what the public already knows.

Win
Jun 12, 2020
#16901
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Lance Armstrong is exactly like Pete Rose in how he only admits to what he's already been caught for

[Lance] actually reminds me a lot of Pete Rose in the way that he deals with things where he wants he's like caught red-handed he'll admit something and maybe he'll give you like a little bit past what you already know about right but then you ask them well what about all this other stuff and then he'll put up like one blocker but like no I never did that.

Both athletes followed a pattern of long-term denial followed by incremental admissions once evidence was overwhelming.

The review took a turn into the sheer danger of the Tour de France, where PFT uncovered a statistic that suggests the safest place to be is actually on the bike rather than on the sidewalk.

Push
Jun 12, 2020
#16903
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

It is statistically more dangerous to be a spectator than a rider in the Tour de France

There have been 27 spectators that have died and three cyclists that have died [in the Tour de France]. So it's more dangerous to not ride in the Tour de France than it is to ride.

While several riders have died in the race's history (actually 4 during the race, and others in related accidents), spectator deaths from being hit by vehicles are also a known issue. PFT's specific numbers are likely cherry-picked for the joke.

Billy meanwhile tried to explain the science of EPO and calf's blood, proving once again that he probably shouldn't be allowed to watch documentaries on double speed.

Don't let the spectators get you.

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