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Grit Week is here and we're live from an Georgia RV Park. We talk about what we have planned for the week, what happened to Vanny Woodhead and how much we love Coach O ( - ). NBA Playoffs, the Rockets are dead again, Steph is healthy, and James Harden is back on his designer drugs (allegedly) ( - ). The Cavs blew out the Celtics and JR Smith is the litmus test for how this series is going ( - ). We're not worried about the Caps so don't even ask ( - ). Who's Back of the week including Love because two strangers in England got married ( - ). LSU Football Coach Ed Orgeron joins the show to talk about Grit, his career as a Coach, the time he recruited even though he didn't have a job, and when he put a worm in his mouth to motivate his team ( - ). Segments include As a White Guy Stephen A Smith said the N word on air. Respect the Biz Us for calling into Brad Stevens press conference, PR 101 for Terrance Williams crashing his Lambo and running away, and Problematic did Lebron diss a guy in a MAGA hat during Game 3 but more importantly who really cares?

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Coach Ed Orgeron on Grit, LSU, and the Best Play in Football

Grit Week is officially here, and Big Cat and PFT are coming to you live from an RV park in Athens, Georgia. The energy is high, even if Vanny Woodhead is currently out of commission in a Yonkers parking lot. It’s the best time of the year to be a football fan, and the guys are starting things off with the man who might be the single most gritty person on the planet: LSU head coach Ed Orgeron.

The Weirdest Bodies in the NBA Playoffs

Before getting to Coach O, Big Cat and PFT had to address the absolute mess that is the Houston Rockets right now. James Harden looks completely lost out there, and Big Cat has a theory on why his performance falls off a cliff every May.

Void
May 21, 2018
#16426
Big CatBig Cat

James Harden looks like he is taking weird designer drugs every playoffs

I don't understand James Harden. I don't understand how this is supposed to be different, and then he goes to another playoffs and looks like he's taking some weird designer drug the entire playoffs.

OpinionBasketballHotSubjectiveSarcastic
This is a subjective characterization of a player's performance.

It’s not just the performance that’s bothering the guys; it’s the aesthetics of this entire series. Between Eric Gordon’s pit fat and Chris Paul’s fat face, the Western Conference Finals are a tribute to the "regular guy" physique.

Void
May 21, 2018
#16427
Big CatBig Cat

The Rockets and Warriors series has the weirdest bodies in peak sports

The fact that these are the two best teams in the NBA playing each other in the Western Conference Finals and if you had them all take off their shirts you'd be like I don't know are these guys peak athletes... Eric Gordon has a full on gut.

OpinionBasketballMediumSubjective
This is a subjective observation about athlete body types.

Over in the East, the Celtics got smoked in Game 3, but Big Cat isn't ready to bury LeBron James quite yet. While everyone is crowning Brad Stevens as the boy genius of the NBA, Big Cat reminds everyone that at the end of the day, you're still dealing with the King.

Void
May 21, 2018
#16432
Big CatBig Cat

Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge are better at coaching and management than LeBron James

Brad Stevens and Danny Ainge are better than [LeBron] at coach and GM. Brad Stevens is so much better of a coach than LeBron. But at the end of the day, LeBron, like, you don't want to get into Game 7 against LeBron.

OpinionBasketballMediumSubjective
Inherently subjective comparison of basketball minds.

Ed Orgeron: The Alpha Football Guy

Coach O joined the show from Baton Rouge, and he did not disappoint. From the second he walked in the room asking "where them boys at?" he had Big Cat and PFT ready to run through a brick wall. He shared stories of his childhood shoveling shrimp, his time at Miami coaching Hall of Famers, and the legendary Pete Carroll connection.

One of the wildest stories involved Orgeron's time as an assistant at USC when the head coach was fired. Instead of packing his bags, he just kept recruiting for a school that technically hadn't hired him yet. It’s that level of commitment that makes him a "guy's football guy." When it comes to the actual game, Coach O doesn't care for the fancy stuff; he's all about the most violent play on the field.

Void
May 21, 2018
#16452
Ed OrgeronEd Orgeron

Sack fumble is the best play in football

You know sack fumble is the best playing football, right?

OpinionFootballMildSubjective
Subjective opinion on the aesthetic or strategic value of a play.

Despite his reputation for being a defensive specialist who once put a live worm in his mouth to motivate his players, Coach O admits he has a soft spot for the long ball. He’s looking to bring that swagger back to Death Valley and has a very specific goal for the Tigers.

Win
May 21, 2018
#16453
Ed OrgeronEd Orgeron

I will win a national championship for the state of Louisiana

I want national championship for the state of Louisiana, for these players. They yearn for it. They work for it. And I want to win a national championship. Now I got it [the job], but I got to do something with it.

PredictionCFBMedium
Ed Orgeron followed through and won the National Championship with LSU in the 2019 season.

Who's Back and Respecting the Biz

In a special Grit Week edition of Who's Back, the guys touched on the Royal Wedding. While the rest of the world was crying over the romance, Big Cat was focused on the logistics and the inevitable fallout.

Open
May 21, 2018·Who's Back
#16446
Big CatBig Cat

Predicts Prince Harry and Meghan Markle will get divorced

I saw a lot of people tweeting like, oh, my God... they love each other. I can't wait for them to get divorced. It's going to be awesome. I hope she takes them for all of Sussex.

PredictionPop CultureHot
As of 2024, they are still married.

The guys also broke down their recent foray into "real" journalism by calling into a Brad Stevens press conference. They introduced themselves from their fake websites—MJvsLeBron.net and draftjoshelan.com—and actually managed to get a serious answer out of the Celtics coach about his job security.

Void
May 21, 2018·Respect the Biz
#28975
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The NBA was 'asking' to be prank called because their security is so bad

Not to victim shame, but the NFL knows how to stop us. The NBA, they were kind of asking for it... There were some elements of provocation that the NBA gave to us.

OpinionMediaMediumSubjectiveSarcastic
The NBA's lower security on the call is a fact, but the idea they were 'asking for it' is satirical.

To wrap up, the guys looked ahead to the rest of the road trip, including a potential stop in Tampa to watch PFT's Capitals either clinch a spot in the finals or suffer the most predictable heartbreak in sports history.

Go Tigers.

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Win
May 21, 2018
#16428
Big CatBig Cat

Charles Barkley would get his ass kicked by Draymond Green

Charles Barkley would get his ass kicked so bad by Draymond. Oh, so bad. So bad. He's not, like, so bad.

OpinionBasketballMedium
Barkley was 55 at the time; Draymond was in his prime. Physically, this is almost certainly correct.
Win
May 21, 2018
#16429
Big CatBig Cat

The Cavs will win Game 4 against the Celtics

I fully expect the Cavs to win game four as well. I think this series is gonna go seven because I do really think that like Kyle Korver and J.R. Smith and Tristan Thompson they just need to be... sleeping in their own bed and then they can make shots.

PredictionBasketballMild
The Cavs won Game 4 (111-102) and the series indeed went to seven games.
Win
May 21, 2018
#16435
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I'm putting money on the Cavs to win the series now

I would say that if I'm a betting man, I'm putting money on the Cavs for the series now.

PredictionBasketballMedium
The Cavaliers came back to win the series 4-3.
Win
May 21, 2018
#16437
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

No one is beating the Golden State Warriors

The Celtics aren't going to be able to beat the Warriors. No one's beating the Warriors.

PredictionBasketballMild
The Warriors swept the Cavs in the 2018 Finals to win the championship.
Push
May 21, 2018
#16440
Big CatBig Cat

If the Warriors and Cavs play, I'm putting all my money on the Warriors in five

If the Warriors and the Cavs play, I'm going to put all my money on Warriors to win in five. Because I feel like that's exactly what's going to happen. LeBron will win one game, game three or four, and then that will be it.

PredictionBasketballMedium
The Warriors won in four, not five.
Loss
May 21, 2018
#16442
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Capitals will win Game 6 and then lose Game 7 in heartbreaking fashion

I'm not worried because it is our destiny to win this game [Game 6] and then go to a game seven and then lose that in heartbreaking fashion.

PredictionHockeyMedium
The Capitals won Game 6, won Game 7, and then won the Stanley Cup. PFT's reverse jinx was defeated by reality.
Loss
May 21, 2018·Who's Back
#16444
HankHank

Johnny Manziel is in it for the long haul in the CFL

[Johnny Manziel] signed with the CFL. He's going to the Canadian Hamilton Tiger-Cats... I think he's in it for the long haul.

PredictionFootballMedium
Manziel was traded by Hamilton, played 8 games for Montreal, and was barred from the CFL in early 2019 for violating his contract.
Void
May 21, 2018·Who's Back
#28973
Big CatBig Cat

I'm not trading lives with Prince William because his hair is so bad

That guy, William, that is the worst bald guy I've ever seen. You got to pick it. You're a fucking prince, man. His hair is so bad, I wouldn't trade lives with him. I would not trade lives with the Prince William.

OpinionPop CultureMediumSubjective
This is a purely subjective aesthetic judgment and personal preference.
Void
May 21, 2018·Who's Back
#16448
Big CatBig Cat

A Chrissy Teigen and John Legend divorce would melt down Twitter

Chrissy Teigen and John Legend. It would be incredible. It's like sometimes I sit up at night being like, if they got divorced, I think I'd stay up for a week straight on a meth binge just looking at Twitter and getting high off that.

OpinionPop CultureMediumSubjective
Hypothetical social media reaction.
Void
May 21, 2018·Who's Back
#16450
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Riley Curry is a fraud for not facing the media after a loss

My problem with Riley [Curry] is she's always the first one to show up after a big win, and she never steps to the podium and faces the music after a loss... Like a fucking coward. Like a fraud. Riley Curry's a fraud.

Hot TakeBasketballScorchingSubjectiveSarcastic
She is a child; judging her based on professional athlete media obligations is satirical.
Void
May 21, 2018
#16454
Ed OrgeronEd Orgeron

There is nothing better than the deep touchdown bomb

I want to be physical, but there ain't nothing like the deep pass, man... I like the touchdown pass. I like the bomb. I like it, you know, like the Oakland Raiders go deep.

OpinionFootballMildSubjective
Subjective preference for football play styles.
Loss
May 21, 2018
#28976
Big CatBig Cat

I count the LSU bowl game against Notre Dame as a win because I hate Notre Dame

And I count your bowl game [Citrus Bowl] as a win. That was a weird game. I count that as a win. I hate Notre Dame, so I count that as a win. So just in my record book, you went 7-1.

OpinionCFBMedium
Literally, LSU lost the game 21-17, so the 'record book' claim is factually incorrect despite the bias.
Loss
May 21, 2018·As A White Guy
#16455
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Stephen A. Smith is using the N-word on air to get ESPN to fire him so he can reunite with Skip Bayless

I also have a theory that Stephen A. Smith is just trying to get broken up with at ESPN because he misses Skip Bayless so much... God bless the broken road that will eventually lead Stephen A. Smith back to skip. And if he has to drop the in-bomb a couple times on the air, so be it.

Hot TakeMediaScorchingSarcastic
They eventually did reunite on First Take (Skip as guest) and social media, but not because Stephen A. was fired for this reason.
Win
May 21, 2018·Respect the Biz
#28974
Big CatBig Cat

I expect the Celtics to eventually get fired by their employer

Brad Stevens... completely honest and genuine being like, you know, when you get in this profession, you know that you're someday going to get fired. All right. So actually, Brad, we were just talking about the fact that it's your job to coach. So you're coaching for your job.

Fact ClaimBasketballMild
Most professional coaches are eventually fired or choose to leave, making the 'someday' claim generally true in the industry.
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