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Mike Florio, The Bucs Are Dead, NFL Week 8 Picks & Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Friday, October 28, 202215 takes

The Bucs are dead and Tom Brady has found a way to make America feel bad for him. The Ravens might be back and Hank gets a bonus shot at the lottery ball machine (-). Mike Florio joins the show to talk Football, Conspiracy theories, history of Pro Football Talk and we do Fantasy Fuccbois with him (-). Week 8 picks and preview for every game and Russell Wilson continues to be a fucking weirdo to the highest degree(-). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week.

Mike Florio on Tom Brady, NFL Week 8 Picks, and the Bucs Are Dead

Tom Brady should have stayed retired. The Thursday Night Football loss to the Ravens was a wake-up call for anyone still holding onto the idea that the Buccaneers are a contender. Big Cat and PFT Commenter didn't hold back, describing Brady as looking genuinely sad on the field. The offense is broken, the line is a disaster, and the guys are starting to think the greatest of all time has finally hit the wall.

Win
Oct 28, 2022
#8657
Big CatBig Cat

Tom Brady should retire right now

Today is Friday, October 28th and Tom Brady should retire. The Buccaneers are a pathetic, pathetic football team. Oh my God. Tom Brady should retire.

Brady did eventually retire following the conclusion of this 2022 season after a first-round playoff loss.

While Brady gets the headlines, Big Cat pointed the finger squarely at the coaching staff. Todd Bowles looks completely emotionless on the sideline while his team commits dumb penalties and executes a lackluster game plan. On the other side, the Ravens looked like they finally found their identity again by running for over 230 yards.

Void
Oct 28, 2022
#8658
Big CatBig Cat

Todd Bowles is a bad head coach

Todd Bowles sucks as a coach. I'm sorry. He sucks. They get so many penalties. It's so many dumb things.

Bowles continued to face criticism throughout the 2022 and 2023 seasons, though he did lead the Bucs to a playoff win in 2023.
Loss
Oct 28, 2022
#8659
Big CatBig Cat

The Ravens are back in the Super Bowl contender tier

The Ravens were phenomenal and the Ravens, like, they kind of got their their juice back in terms of of running the football. I have the Ravens back in my good tier. Maybe even, maybe even Super Bowl contender tier.

The Ravens finished 10-7 and lost in the Wild Card round to the Bengals, though Lamar Jackson missed the end of the season with an injury.

Mike Florio and the Pro Football Talk 21st Anniversary

Pro Football Talk creator Mike Florio joined the show to celebrate 21 years of the website and brought plenty of his signature informed speculation. The conversation quickly shifted to the crumbling Brady empire. Florio floated a theory that the tension in Brady’s personal life might be directly linked to the NFL's investigation into the Miami Dolphins tampering with him.

Void
Oct 28, 2022
#8661
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Tom Brady's marriage issues began because Gisele was unaware he was flirting with the Dolphins

There's a theory in league circles... that the issues with Tom Brady and his wife blew up when the league announced the punishment of the dolphins because of the flirtation with Brady. Cuz she had, as the theory goes, no idea he was talking to the dolphins about playing.

The timing aligned with Brady's absence from camp, but the internal dynamics of the marriage remain private and speculative.

Florio also took aim at the situation in New England, suggesting that Bill Belichick’s reliance on nepotism has compromised his ability to run a tight ship. According to Florio, when your sons are your top assistants, you lose the ability to hold the rest of the staff accountable because everyone knows the kids aren't going anywhere.

Void
Oct 28, 2022
#8662
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Bill Belichick cannot hold his staff accountable because of nepotism with his sons

[Belichick] has got two kids working for him. And if one of those kids needs to be fired, he can't do it. And that makes it impossible for him to hold other people accountable. I think that's the root of where things kind of got wobbly... if you can't hold your kids accountable, you can't hold anybody accountable.

This is a recurring criticism of the late-stage Belichick era in New England, though it remains a subjective analysis of team dynamics.

As a noted Vikings fan, Florio wasn't even buying into the hype of his own 5-1 team. He expects them to flame out predictably once the calendar turns to January.

Push
Oct 28, 2022
#8663
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Vikings will lose in the divisional round this year

This is a team that's gonna go 11 and six, maybe 12 and five... And they're gonna win in the wild card round if they're lucky. And then they get the shit kicked out of them by the Eagles or the Cowboys or one of the elite teams in the nfc because cousins is limited.

Florio was incredibly close. The Vikings went 13-4 and lost in the Wild Card round (not the divisional) to the Giants.

Week 8 Picks and the Russell Wilson Saga

Before getting into the picks, the guys had to address the most Russell Wilson story of all time: the Broncos quarterback doing high-knees in the aisle of a plane to London for four hours while his teammates slept. It’s reached a level of "Russell Wilson-ness" that is starting to alienate anyone who isn't a fan of cringey leadership tactics. PFT Commenter thinks this desperation actually makes the Packers a scary team if they can just limp into the dance.

Void
Oct 28, 2022
#27868
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Packers are more dangerous as a low seed than a one seed

I think it's better for [the Packers] to struggle and then get into the post-season as like a six or a seven seed... When they're the one seed, they seize up. They got, you know, they think too much. Aaron Rogers is too careful... I really do think they're more dangerous if they get in by the skin of their teeth than if they rebound and win the division.

The Packers did not make the playoffs at all in 2022, so the theory was never tested.

When it came to the actual board, Big Cat is all-in on the interim coach bump in Carolina. He believes the locker room is genuinely rallying behind Steve Wilks, who has deep roots in Charlotte.

Win
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#27865
Big CatBig Cat

The Panthers will play hard for Steve Wilks because the locker room wants him to keep the job

The locker room is talking about how [Steve Wilks] got screwed in Arizona and they want him to have the job and they're playing for him and they're like, he means a lot to this franchise to the city... I was like, what do they care? They're out of it. And then I was like, Wait, are they out of it? ... You can delude yourself in being like, we're not out of it because mathematically we would be in first place on Sunday afternoon.

The Panthers finished the season 7-10 under Wilks and played significantly better than expected, although he did not get the permanent job.

PFT is looking at the AFC East, specifically targeting Zach Wilson's inability to read a Belichick defense. He expects the Patriots to create a "seeing ghosts" 2.0 situation for the Jets' young quarterback.

Win
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#8664
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Zach Wilson will be befuddled by the Patriots defense this weekend

I wanna talk about the Patriot's defense because the Patriot's defense I think is going to befuddle. Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson's gonna be befuddled this weekend. And the Jacks, he's gonna be so confused. Belichick knows how to fuck with befuddled quarterbacks.

The Patriots beat the Jets 22-17 that weekend; Zach Wilson threw 3 interceptions and had a 64.6 passer rating, looking very confused.

In the NFC West, Big Cat is sticking with the trend that has defined the division for years: Kyle Shanahan simply having Sean McVay’s number in the regular season.

Win
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#8665
Big CatBig Cat

Kyle Shanahan owns Sean McVay

I assume that was who you're gonna be if you were basic. Yeah, no, I agree with you. But also at some point, I feel like every time this happens... we've known for a while that Shanahan owns McVay. He's eight and four against McVay overall. Straight up.

The 49ers beat the Rams 31-14 in the game immediately following this take, further proving Shanahan's dominance.

Fyre Fest of the Week

Hank's Fyre Fest involved a blackout encounter with internet star Druski at a casino in Baton Rouge. Hank woke up in his hotel room fully clothed, knees on the ground, with his sink running and no memory of the night. He later found out he was the "annoying drunk guy" to one of his favorite comedians. PFT dealt with the literal pain of fashion after wearing low-cut socks with new shoes, while Big Cat is facing the existential crisis of realizing his son is a lefty, and he has no idea how to teach him a jumper.

Hank also managed to lose the lottery ball challenge twice in one episode, extending his legendary streak of futility to over two years.

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More Takes

Loss
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#8666
Billy FootballBilly Football

Sam Ehlinger is mobile enough to light up the Commanders offense

I'm going Colts minus three over the commanders... Sam Ehlinger, I think he's a mobile quarterback enough to light up an offense. We see these mobile quarterbacks getting first downs, extending drives. I think the Colts gonna have the fire in their belly.

The Colts lost 17-16 to the Commanders. Ehlinger did not 'light up' the offense, throwing for 201 yards, 0 TDs, and rushing for 15 yards.
Push
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#27866
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Seahawks will cover the first half and the Giants will cover the second half of their matchup

Seattle is six and one against the spread in the first half. The giants are six and one against the spread in the second half. Interesting. You can do a little double dip there if you wanted to.

The Seahawks led 10-7 at halftime (covered) and won 27-13. The Giants did not cover the second half as they were outscored 17-6 in the final two frames.
Void
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#8668
Big CatBig Cat

Pete Carroll is not a good in-game coach

I feel like D'Amico is a very good endgame coach. And Pete Carroll, I don't think is a very good in game coach. I think Pete Carroll is, he has got a lot of strengths, but in terms of adjustments and being strategic with things like challenges, time out, stuff like that. He's not even in my top 10.

This is a subjective evaluation of a legendary coach's specific tactical shortcomings.
Loss
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#8670
HankHank

The Jaguars vs. Broncos London game will be a high-scoring shootout

Taking the over 39 and a half Jaguars, Broncos... I think it's gonna be a shootout. Pre-season, everyone loved the Broncos. Jaguars saying they're one of the most fun teams. Explosive teams. Teams with a lot of potential. I think it's gonna be a shootout.

The final score was 21-17 (38 total points), meaning it was not a shootout and the over failed by 1.5 points.
Loss
Oct 28, 2022·Picks
#27867
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons will not pass more than 13 times against the Panthers

My under is gonna be the Panthers falcons... I think both teams are just gonna wanna run the ball and we, we've established that the Falcons will not pass more than 13 times a game. So just gimme run plays all day.

Marcus Mariota threw 28 times in this game, significantly over the 13-pass threshold mentioned.

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