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Mike Florio, Week 13 Recap And We Broke News

Monday, December 3, 201816 takes

NFL Week 13 fastest 2 minutes. (-) Mike McCarthy fired and we broke the news, not to brag. Recapping NFL Sunday, the Chargers big win, AFC WC cluster fuck, Done Chain, Texans are still winning, Chase Daniel is Chase Daniel, and the Patriots are doing that Patriots thing they do every year. (-) College Football Playoff and Jalen Hurts redemption. (-) Who's back of the week. (-) Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joins the show to talk about Mike McCarthy, Kareem Hunt situation, which coaches are potentially on the hot seat, will NFL teams look more to College, and a conspiracy theory on how TMZ got the Kareem Hunt tape. (-) Segments include Football guy of the week,(-) Ehhhh for Brett Favre, (-) Mansplaining Kareem Hunt, (-) Kings Stay Kings Phil Rivers, (-) and Spinzone for Urban Meyer's Spinzone (-).

Mike Florio on Mike McCarthy's Firing and the Kareem Hunt Situation

A massive Monday show starts with the guys taking a well-deserved victory lap. In a world of Schefters and Rappaports, it was a trusted source in PFT's DMs that broke the biggest news of the season: Mike McCarthy is out in Green Bay. Big Cat and PFT walked through the timeline of the scoop, noting that the Packers essentially waited until a home loss to the lowly Cardinals to finally pull the plug on a relationship that had turned toxic.

Win
Dec 3, 2018
#8538
Big CatBig Cat

Firing Mike McCarthy mid-season was the right move for the Packers

I actually I think this is the right move just because that team clearly has quit on him... The Packers were so clearly going to fire him. Why not just put everyone out of their misery? This actually probably helps Mike McCarthy. He can go get another job now.

The Packers eventually hired Matt LaFleur and saw immediate success, while McCarthy took a year off before joining the Cowboys, supporting the idea that the split was necessary.

Beyond the drama in Lambeau, the AFC wild card race is turning into a total cluster. The Chargers went into Pittsburgh and pulled off a massive second-half comeback, proving they might actually be different this year. With Joey Bosa back and the offense clicking, PFT is ready to put their star running back in the elite tier of the league.

Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#8539
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Melvin Gordon is the first or second best running back in the NFL

Melvin Gordon is like, I think – if not the best running back, probably the second best running back right now in the NFL.

In 2018, Todd Gurley and Christian McCaffrey were arguably better, and Saquon Barkley was a sensation, making Gordon top 2 a stretch even then.

While the Chargers are ascending, the Carolina Panthers are plummeting into the abyss. After another loss and an injury to Greg Olsen, Big Cat has seen enough of the Ron Rivera era for one season. He's officially breaking out the heavy machinery for the NFC South.

Win
Dec 3, 2018
#8540
Big CatBig Cat

I'm officially 'Done Chaining' the Carolina Panthers

I want to dun-chain the Panthers... The Panthers at 6-6 could easily catch someone and still get in the playoffs, but I honestly— Done chain them. I'm done chaining them. They're done. They don't have any fight. They look like shit.

The Panthers finished the 2018 season 7-9 and missed the playoffs, losing 7 of their final 8 games. Big Cat was exactly right.

Mike Florio on the Coaching Carousel

Pro Football Talk's Mike Florio joined the show to discuss the fallout of the McCarthy firing and the disturbing Kareem Hunt video that surfaced over the weekend. Florio provided some insight into why the Chiefs moved so fast, noting that Hunt reportedly lied to the organization about the incident. As for where McCarthy lands next, Florio thinks a certain AFC North team with a young star quarterback should be making the call.

Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#8545
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Mike McCarthy will be a top candidate for the Cleveland Browns job

Don't be surprised if McCarthy's name ends up at the top of the list in Cleveland... I'd be looking for current head coaches to maybe be thinking about trying to get to a place like Cleveland or Green Bay.

The Browns hired interim OC Freddie Kitchens as head coach. McCarthy sat out the 2019 season before joining the Cowboys in 2020.

Florio also looked at the potential opening in Green Bay, suggesting that the Packers need a veteran presence who can handle the specific brand of "bad body language" currently radiating off Aaron Rodgers.

Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#8544
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Bruce Arians is the primary name for the Packers head coaching job

Without question, the first name, and I think the only name... Bruce Arians has already been making noise about coaching the crowd. If I'm the Packers, I want Arians because I need somebody who's going to get through to Rodgers.

The Packers hired Matt LaFleur in January 2019. Bruce Arians became the head coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

We also checked in on the Le'Veon Bell situation, which feels like it happened a decade ago. While the Steelers have moved on to James Conner, Florio is tracking where the bag will eventually be dropped this offseason, and he's pointing directly at the Meadowlands.

Push
Dec 3, 2018
#8546
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Le'Veon Bell will sign with the Jets for more than $17.5 million per year

I think the Jets, the Jets are the team. And I think the over-under is $17.5 million a year, and I'll take the over.

Bell did sign with the Jets, but for $52.5M over 4 years, which is an average of $13.125M per year, well under the $17.5M 'over' Florio took.

College Football Playoff and Who's Back

Championship Saturday gave us the Jalen Hurts redemption arc, which Big Cat found touching despite his general distrust of Nick Saban's tear ducts. The committee settled on Bama, Clemson, Notre Dame, and Oklahoma, leaving Georgia and Ohio State on the outside looking in. While the Hurts story is great for the archives, the guys aren't exactly betting on him to be the next Drew Brees.

Loss
Big CatBig Cat

Jalen Hurts will be an Alabama legend but won't do anything in the NFL

He's going to be the classic, like, not going to do anything in the NFL, but just be an Alabama legend forever. He'll do autograph signings for so much money for the rest of his life.

Jalen Hurts became a Pro Bowl quarterback, an NFL MVP runner-up, and led the Eagles to a Super Bowl appearance.

In a crowded Who's Back segment, Hank made a bold "Hank Guarantee" regarding everyone's favorite Dunder Mifflin employees. Despite Steve Carell being a massive movie star now, Hank is convinced the nostalgia bait is too strong to ignore.

Loss
Dec 3, 2018·Who's Back
#8543
HankHank

The Office will be rebooted within the next six months

I'm now just going to call my shot that within six months, [The Office] will be rebooted... Hank Guarantee. Yep. Six months.

A reboot of The Office was not announced within six months of December 2018. Even as of 2024, a proper reboot hasn't premiered, though a spin-off is in development.

We wrapped things up with a look at Urban Meyer’s latest "Spinzone" regarding Ohio State’s adversity. Big Cat pointed out the incredible timing of Urban's health flare-ups, which seem to perfectly align with the Buckeyes' performance on the field.

Void
Dec 3, 2018
#21148
Big CatBig Cat

Urban Meyer fakes health issues when his team loses and is miraculously cured when they win

[Urban Meyer] said that this season they should be in the playoffs because they battled so much adversity... Shelly Meyer [said] winning cures a lot when talking about his health... she's basically saying, yeah, he's an asshole when he loses. He fakes like he's sick when he loses. And then when he wins, he's cured.

This is a subjective characterization of Urban Meyer's behavior and health claims.

Don't forget to vote for Mike Vrabel for Football Guy of the Week after he nearly dislocated a shoulder trying to block his own defensive linemen in pregame warmups.

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Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#8541
Big CatBig Cat

The Houston Texans are a 'Team of Destiny' to win the Super Bowl

I said to you, by the end of the season, they will have so many stickers and patches on their uniforms and helmets because of all these people dying that are associated with the Texans... This is a team of destiny. They're really good.

The Texans lost in the Wild Card round to the Colts (21-7), so they were not a team of destiny for the Super Bowl.
Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#8547
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cleveland Browns are my dark horse team for next year

I think it's a year early for the Browns. We'll put them in that pile. Okay, so they'll be the Regis Philbin pick next year. Yes, they're going to be our dark horse that no one sees coming.

The 2019 Browns were one of the biggest disappointments in NFL history, going 6-10 after massive off-season hype (including the OBJ trade).
Win
Dec 3, 2018
#21143
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

LSU will beat UCF in the Fiesta Bowl

[UCF is] playing LSU, that's right. If they beat LSU, which they're not going to, we're not saying they are, but if they were to beat LSU by double digits, [they should get a shot at the national champion].

LSU defeated UCF 40-32 in the Fiesta Bowl on January 1, 2019.
Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#21144
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Marvin Lewis will return as the Bengals head coach for the 2019 season

Marvin Lewis has a contract through 2019, and Mike Brown, the owner of the team, does not like to pay people [who don't work]. So unless he walks away, I think he's going to be back.

Marvin Lewis was fired by the Bengals on December 31, 2018, shortly after the regular season ended.
Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#21145
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Steve Wilks secured another year as the Cardinals head coach by beating the Packers

I think that Steve Wilks secured his future by getting Mike McCarthy fired today. Yeah, I think that gets him another year.

Despite the win, the Cardinals fired Steve Wilks on December 31, 2018, after just one season.
Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#21146
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Either the Packers or the Browns will hire a current NFL head coach to fill their coaching vacancies

I think that one of those two teams [Packers or Browns] will seriously consider trying to hire another head coach from another NFL team... I'd be looking for current head coaches to maybe be thinking about trying to get to a place like Cleveland or Green Bay.

The Packers hired Titans OC Matt LaFleur and the Browns hired their own interim OC Freddie Kitchens. Neither hired a current NFL head coach.
Loss
Dec 3, 2018
#21147
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

An NFL team will pick up Kareem Hunt off waivers

I think somebody's going to pick [Kareem Hunt] up... nobody wants to pick them up off waivers, but they're all thinking that somebody else is going to do it... I would actually, I think somebody's going to pick them up.

Kareem Hunt cleared waivers on December 3, 2018, and remained a free agent until February 2019 when he signed with the Browns.

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