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Mike Florio, Week 6 Preview And Nick Saban Has The CoCo

Friday, October 16, 202018 takes

- [ ] Nick Saban has the CoCo and we're powering through the football season. (-) Week 6 NFL Preview and games we like. Adam Gase offered up the wheel of the Titanic, the Browns trying to win in Pittsburgh for the first time in 17 years and the Niners bounce back? (-) Fantasy Fuccbois.(-) Mike Florio joins the show to talk about Week 6, surprise performances of the NFL season, how the league is dealing with Coronavirus, and we play a great trick on him to get him to talk about his fantasy team. (-)Fyre Fest of the week and Big Cat has a stalker. (-)

Mike Florio on NFL Week 6, the Gase Titanic, and Saban’s Cocoa

The football world was rocked this week by the news that Nick Saban tested positive for the cocoa, leaving Steve Sarkisian at the helm for a massive game against Georgia. Big Cat is already looking for the loophole, arguing that if the greatest coach in college football history isn't on the sidelines, the result shouldn't even count toward Alabama's record.

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Oct 16, 2020
#16487
Big CatBig Cat

If Alabama loses to Georgia without Nick Saban on the sideline, it shouldn't count as a loss

If Alabama loses does it count? Is it a Coach K thing? Does Nick Saban not get this on his record? ... I unironically think yes. I think Nick Saban will get in front of the press and say exactly that. Be like, 'Hey, guess what? That wasn't my team. That was Steve Sarkisian's team.'

Alabama beat Georgia 41-24, and Saban ended up coaching after testing negative three times, so the hypothetical loss never occurred.

PFT agreed, noting that the betting markets usually account for the Saban factor in a way that makes a close loss feel like a victory in spirit.

Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#16488
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Nick Saban is worth seven points to the betting line in an Alabama game

I do kind of think that Nick Saban is definitely worth seven points in a game. So if they lose by fewer than seven points, then I would say this does not count as a loss.

The line didn't move 7 points when Saban was briefly out, suggesting the market value of a coach is lower, though Saban's actual impact is subjective.

Before the NFL preview kicked off, the guys spent some time examining the curious case of Peyton Manning’s recent beach photos. Billy Football, the resident HGH expert, pointed out some very specific physical attributes that suggest the Sheriff might be enjoying some retirement supplements.

Void
Oct 16, 2020
#16489
Billy FootballBilly Football

Peyton Manning is definitely using HGH

Billy football spotted that he's got the Omaha Beach... Omaha Beach nipples... possible HGH. ... He's obviously taking always multiple nipples like a pig. ... Definitely juicing, definitely realizing I feel like a lot of retired guys just start juicing because they could never do it during their career.

This is a scandalous claim based on a beach photo and hasn't been verified by any credible source or testing.

Week 6 NFL Preview

The Week 6 slate brings some fascinating narratives, none more interesting than the ongoing disaster in Dallas. While most people are mourning the loss of Dak Prescott, PFT found a way to spin Andy Dalton as an upgrade—not because he's more talented, but because his limitations will force the Cowboys to actually play like a football team.

Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#28851
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Cowboys are better off with Andy Dalton because his limitations force the team to scheme more cohesively

I'm going to let's just take it one step further and say that Andy Dalton is a better quarterback than Dak Prescott. ... he's better because he's worse. So the team has to play more cohesively and I have to scheme for Andy Dalton. I can't just Coast on Dax Talent anymore.

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The Cowboys went 4-5 with Dalton as a starter and the offense struggled significantly compared to the Dak-led unit, though they did eventually find some rhythm late in the season.

Big Cat is feeling a bounce-back performance from Kirk Cousins, mostly because the Vikings are moving out of the spotlight and back into the comfortable 1 PM window against a Falcons team that might be enjoying a post-Dan Quinn high but still lacks a soul.

Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#28852
Big CatBig Cat

The Vikings will beat the Falcons in Week 6 because Kirk Cousins thrives in 1 PM home games against bad teams

I think there's something to losing and prime time if your Kirk Cousins everybody thinking that you stink and then coming back and playing a 1 p.m. game against a shitty team at home on Fox that he's probably going to light it up and I'm with the Vikings.

The Falcons actually blew out the Vikings 40-23 in this game.

Speaking of coaching changes, the Giants are firmly in the mix for the top pick, and PFT thinks Joe Judge needs to pull the trigger on a quarterback change soon to save his own skin.

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Oct 16, 2020
#28853
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Giants should bench Daniel Jones for Colt McCoy because McCoy is a great interim spark

At some point Daniel Jones is there's going to be a leash on him. Joe judge is going to it's going to be the Joe judge. I got to save my job leash. ... Colt McCoy is a great one term interim quarterback. Yes, I would I would probably go with Colt McCoy in this game.

Daniel Jones remained the starter for most of the season, though McCoy did start one game later in the year due to Jones' injury (and won).

In the NFC North, Big Cat is surprisingly bullish on the Bears as they head into a matchup with the Panthers. The optimism stems from Nick Foles essentially demanding to take the keys to the offense away from Matt Nagy.

Win
Oct 16, 2020
#28854
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears will beat the Panthers because Nick Foles is taking over the offensive play-calling from Matt Nagy

I think the Bears offense is going to get going a little bit here because Does Nick Foles if you've read any of the comments, Nick Foles is doing a public plea to have more control over the office to basically say Let me let me let me cook. Let Nick cook. ... if Nick is like hey, let me cook instead of Matt Nagy. I'll eat whatever Nick Foles Cooks.

The Bears beat the Panthers 23-16, though the offense remained mostly stagnant throughout the season.

This game feels like a true pivot point for both franchises. With both teams sitting in the thick of the playoff hunt, the stakes couldn't be higher for a random mid-October cross-conference matchup.

Win
Oct 16, 2020
#16491
Big CatBig Cat

The winner of the Bears vs. Panthers game will make the playoffs

Whoever wins this game, I would say will be in the playoffs. ... if the Bears win this game, they go to 5 and 1. ... It's got to be like 92% of teams that start 5-1 make the playoffs.

The Bears beat the Panthers 23-16 to move to 5-1 and eventually made the playoffs as an 8-8 wild card team. The Panthers lost and missed the playoffs.

Mike Florio Joins the Show

Friend of the program and peacock enthusiast Mike Florio joined to talk about the league's handling of the pandemic and the future of the Super Bowl schedule. Florio is a big fan of the idea of moving the Big Game to a permanent holiday weekend.

Void
Oct 16, 2020
#28855
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Super Bowl should be played on Presidents Day weekend permanently

I mean they've been planning for the possibility of bumping the Super Bowl back to Presidents Day. We have something yes, I wanted to do for years. So you have flexibility.

This is a subjective opinion on league scheduling.

The guys also managed to pull off their greatest trick yet: getting Mike Florio to break his cardinal rule and talk about his fantasy football team. By asking him about various players under the guise of "Buy or Sell," they successfully navigated through Florio's entire starting lineup before he realized he'd been played.

Florio didn't hold back on the Jets either, comparing the Adam Gase era to a sinking ship where no one wants to take the wheel. He expects the end to come sooner rather than later as the schedule gets brutal.

Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#16495
Mike FlorioMike Florio

It is not sustainable for the Jets to keep Adam Gase through their bye week

The next four opponents... Bills, Patriots, Chiefs... it feels like it's moving in the direction where it's not sustainable for the Jets to continue with Adam Gase, even if ownership really wants to... I think it's moving in the direction where it's not sustainable.

The Jets kept Adam Gase for the entire 2020 season, only firing him on January 3rd, 2021, after the final game.

We also got a look into the future of the NFC West, where Florio thinks the Jimmy Garoppolo era in San Francisco might be nearing its conclusion, with a familiar face possibly waiting in the wings.

Push
Oct 16, 2020
#16497
Mike FlorioMike Florio

Kyle Shanahan will look for a new quarterback like Kirk Cousins to replace Jimmy Garoppolo after the season

I think the bigger question here is after the season. What do they do? ... I think that Kyle Shanahan is going to look for somebody else after the season. ... it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Vikings decide, 'You know what, we've had enough with this guy' and Shanahan embraces [Kirk] Cousins.

The 49ers did look for a replacement, famously trading up to draft Trey Lance in the 2021 NFL Draft, though they didn't land Cousins.

Fyre Fest of the Week

Wrapping up the show, Big Cat is stressing over tax extensions while PFT tried to convince him that a leap year or daylight savings time might grant him extra time to file. Billy Football’s Fyre Fest involved his failed pitch for a new app called "Gala" (or was it "Della"?) which was meant to help college students find the right "ratio" at bars. It went about as well as you'd expect a Billy Football tech pitch to go.

Just remember to set your clocks in whatever direction gives you the most sleep.

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Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#16492
Billy FootballBilly Football

Derrick Henry is not a good short-yardage running back because his legs are too long

I agree with at the start of that game when they started feeding Derrick Henry the ball. [Billy] said Derrick Henry actually sneaky not a great short yardage running back. ... Legs are too long. ... Big guys just they can swallow them up.

Derrick Henry led the league in rushing yards (2,027) and touchdowns (17) in 2020 and is statistically one of the best power/short-yardage backs in history.
Win
Oct 16, 2020
#16493
Big CatBig Cat

I'm taking the 49ers to cover against the Rams because Rams -3 is a 'stinky' rat line that makes no sense

This is my stinky stinky game of the week because the line makes no sense. ... I saw Rams -3 and I was like, 'Oh my god, that's the easiest [bet] of all time. ... It's a ratline. ... I'm going to take the 49ers.

The 49ers beat the Rams 24-16, so the prediction was correct.
Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#16494
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

Football field goals go farther at night when it's cold

Kicking sucked at the start of the year. I didn't feel it. Now I'm starting to feel it. The weather's getting a little bit colder. I do think that that has something to do with the ball going farther at night. So I do like over three-and-a-half field goals in the Sunday night game.

Physics dictates that warm air is less dense, allowing balls to travel further. Kicking performance generally drops as the temperature falls.
Win
Oct 16, 2020
#16496
Mike FlorioMike Florio

If Drew Brees gets injured, Taysom Hill would start over Jameis Winston because the Saints have embraced him as the future

I've got the impression this year if [Brees] would get hurt, it would be taysom hill playing quarterback. ... as they embrace the reality that taysom hill is going to be the guy I think it would be hill if breeze would get injured. ... if he gets injured my gut feeling is it would be taysom hill over Jameis Winston who would play.

When Brees got hurt later that season (Week 10), Taysom Hill did indeed start over Jameis Winston for four games.
Void
Oct 16, 2020
#16498
Mike FlorioMike Florio

NFL teams absolutely tank, they just do it by playing worse players

Hell yes, there's tanking in football. It's just subtle. The players on the field aren't trying to lose, but someone high up in the organization makes sure the worst players are on the field. 'We want to evaluate the backup quarterback... and if they play like crap, good.'

While difficult to prove legally, several coaches (like Brian Flores) later made allegations supporting this 'front office tanking' theory.
Win
Oct 16, 2020
#28856
Mike FlorioMike Florio

The Giants should only fire Dave Gettleman if they also fire Joe Judge

I think the giant should only get rid of gentlemen if they're also going to get rid of Joe judge. ... the new GM is going to want to get rid of the coach. ... so they should keep Dave got them until they're ready to get rid of both of them.

The Giants eventually fired Gettleman (retired) and Judge simultaneously after the 2021 season, following Florio's logic.
Loss
Oct 16, 2020
#16499
Mike FlorioMike Florio

DK Metcalf is like Calvin Johnson and Jerry Rice combined

DK Metcalf? Buy. I mean, the guy's Calvin Johnson and Jerry Rice combined and he's starting to become fully aware of what he can do.

Metcalf is an elite receiver, but combining the career stats and skills of the two greatest receivers ever is statistically impossible for anyone to live up to.

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