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MLB Playoffs With Jeff Passan, CFB With Matt Leinart, Bears Beat Commanders In The PMT Bowl + Guys On Chicks

Wednesday, October 15, 202518 takes

The Dodgers are unfair and have dudes on dudes on dudes. Mariners team of destiny and a serious not about our friend Nick Mangold (-). We kick it back to ourselves back in studio to talk about Monday Night Football, the Falcons big win over the Falcons and the PMT Bowl as Jayden Daniels fumbled away the game and the Bears move to 3-2 (-). We talk some CFB and Brian Callahan fired (-). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (-). MLB Insider from ESPN Jeff Passan joins the show to talk playoff baseball, Mariners team of destiny, the impending lockout, can anyone beat the Dodgers and more (-). Matt Leinart joins the show to talk USC/ND, the 2025 Football season, best Quarterbacks, Indiana being for real and more (-). We finish with guys on chicks (-).

Jeff Passan and Matt Leinart on MLB Playoffs and College Football Chaos

The Dodgers are reaching a level of talent that is starting to feel like a video game with the sliders turned all the way up. Big Cat is already admitting he’s jealous of the strategy where an owner just decides to keep adding All-Stars until the rest of the league cries foul.

Void
Oct 15, 2025
#25726
Big CatBig Cat

The Dodgers are essentially a collection of All-Stars that is unfair to the rest of the league

Dudes on dudes. That's what the Dodgers are. They just have dudes everywhere. They just hit home runs. ... It's crazy how good the Dodgers are. It's not fair. ... Like I want that, I want an owner who's just like, oh yeah, we, we already have a, a ton of dudes that are awesome. Let's just pay another dude a hundred, $200 million just to get even more awesome.

PFT is leaning into the opposite end of the spectrum, finding his heart with the Seattle Mariners. There is a specific energy around that team right now, from the 15-inning marathons to the "Big Dumper" fan base, that screams destiny.

Push
Oct 15, 2025
#11488
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The Mariners are a team of destiny

I do feel Team of Destiny Vibes from the Mariners. Now their destiny might be to just get waxed by the Dodgers in the World Series. But I do think that Seattle's gonna get there.

The Mariners had an excellent 2025 season, winning the AL West for the first time since 2001 and reaching the ALCS. However, they lost to the Blue Jays in 7 games and did not reach the World Series.

The PMT Bowl and Monday Night Recap

The Bears-Commanders matchup lived up to the hype, mostly because it was a mess. Jayden Daniels fumbled away a handoff, the refs were calling penalties on every other play, and Cairo Santos went down only for Jake Moody to step in and nail the game-winner. Big Cat is cautiously optimistic about Chicago's trajectory.

Void
Oct 15, 2025
#11490
Big CatBig Cat

The Bears are unequivocally no longer a bad football team

I would say the Bears are not a good football team, but they're unequivocally no longer a bad football team. And that is a very important distinction to make in the progression of a team.

Subjective tiering of a team's quality.

PFT isn't ready to bury the Commanders just yet, even after a performance that saw their rush defense get shredded. He’s looking at the long game and a schedule that might actually break their way if they can just figure out how to snap the ball in the rain.

Loss
Oct 15, 2025
#11491
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

I still think the Commanders are going to make the playoffs at 3-3

I still think when all is said and done, 'cause it's a long season, we do have a very hard schedule from here on out. I still think that we're gonna make the playoffs at three and three. I think that that's definitely a possibility.

The Commanders did not make the playoffs. They finished 5-12 after Jayden Daniels was shut down with injury. A massive disappointment from PFT's prediction.

Before moving off the Monday night slate, the Falcons' win over the Bills caught everyone's attention. Bijan Robinson looks like the best back in the league, and the defense actually showed up to stifle Josh Allen in a way that felt sustainable.

Loss
Oct 15, 2025
#11489
Big CatBig Cat

The Falcons are really legit

I think they [Falcons] might be really legit. They had two interceptions, four sacks, like they were all over the place. Held the Bills to two for nine from third down. I think they're really legit.

The Falcons finished 8-9 and missed the playoffs. Morris was fired. They were not 'really legit.'

MLB Insider Jeff Passan

Jeff Passan joined the show to discuss why the Brewers vs. Dodgers series is about more than just who goes to the World Series. It’s a philosophical battleground for the next CBA negotiation.

Void
Oct 15, 2025
#11501
Jeff PassanJeff Passan

The Dodgers vs. Brewers series is a proxy war for the future of baseball's economic system

This is not just the Brewers versus the Dodgers. This is the future of baseball as we know it in a proxy war because whoever ends up winning this series, the other side will use this when the MLB goes to a lockout and fights for a salary cap.

Postseason outcomes are frequently used as talking points in CBA negotiations.

Passan also broke down the impending labor strife that could define the sport's landscape for years to come. He painted a picture of a staring contest between owners and players that could turn ugly quickly.

Open
Oct 15, 2025
#11504
Jeff PassanJeff Passan

The impending MLB lockout will be the defining story of baseball next year

This is going to be the defining story of baseball next year. So hopefully people understand that this is gonna be a big deal... owners essentially lock players out, say you cannot report to work. And then it just becomes a staring contest.

The current CBA expires after the 2026 season; Passan is predicting a lockout-heavy 2026.

As for the teams already heading home, Passan didn't hold back on the Phillies. After another postseason where the core failed to meet the moment, he thinks the era of just "running it back" has to be over.

Void
Oct 15, 2025
#25728
Jeff PassanJeff Passan

The Philadelphia Phillies' current core is at a dead end and needs a major shakeup

The Phillies like, could be in a very transitional phase at this point because this current incarnation of them guys just has failed. Like they have not been able to win a championship. They've gone backward or, or been stagnant every year. And at some point you just gotta change the mix in the room.

The Phillies entered a period of roster re-evaluation but the core largely remained for the following season, though results continued to vary.

College Football with Matt Leinart

Matt Leinart hopped on to talk about the massive USC-Notre Dame rivalry game and the absolute dumpster fire that has become the Wisconsin program. Big Cat is already calling for heads to roll in Madison.

Loss
Oct 15, 2025
#11493
Big CatBig Cat

Luke Fickell will be fired soon

I think Luke Fickell is fired by the way soon and maybe Macintosh the AD. Wisconsin's a dumpster fire, maybe worst program right now in Power four.

Luke Fickell was not fired from Wisconsin despite a 4-8 2025 season. He remains the head coach, though his contract was not extended. His buyout of ~$21.3M has protected his job.

Leinart is also fully bought into the Cignetti era at Indiana. He’s seeing a world where the Hoosiers aren't just a fun story, but a legitimate threat to play for a conference title.

Loss
Oct 15, 2025
#25730
Matt LeinartMatt Leinart

Ohio State vs. Indiana will be the Big 10 Championship game matchup

I think they're [Indiana] gonna win out. Like, I, I think they're gonna play Ohio State in the Big 10 title game and the way he's [Curt Cignetti] done that so quickly.

Indiana and Ohio State both finished with strong records, but Oregon won the Big 10 Championship.

This led to a discussion on the Heisman race, which feels wide open. While the traditional names are getting the hype, Leinart is looking at the guys actually carrying their teams through high-pressure situations.

Loss
Oct 15, 2025
#25729
Matt LeinartMatt Leinart

Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson are the actual Heisman Trophy frontrunners

Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson are your Heisman Trophy favorites. ... Mendoza's the real deal. Like he, he's a good player. ... I'd hammer Mendoza at that [odds]. Like, I think he's got a shot because I think Indiana can beat Ohio State.

Neither Mendoza nor Simpson ended up winning the Heisman in the 2024 season; it was Travis Hunter.

Hot Seat/Cool Throne

Hank used his Hot Seat to call out the league office. After looking at a study from UTEP, he's convinced the Chiefs are getting the "dynasty whistle" in a way that would make the old Patriots blush.

Void
HankHank

The NFL is rigged to favor the Chiefs

The NFL is rigged. There was a study, UTEP did a study. It's statistically proven that the Chiefs... have gotten way more favorable calls in that timeframe. And they did the research that that did not happen with other dynasties in the past.

The UTEP study existence is a fact, but the claim that the 'NFL is rigged' is a subjective interpretation of officiating data.

Big Cat wrapped up with a shot at Sherrone Moore's fashion choices. He argued that putting on a blue-collar jacket doesn't automatically mean you've inherited Jim Harbaugh's magic, especially when you're getting smoked on the field.

Void
Big CatBig Cat

Sherrone Moore's 'blue-collar' jacket is a cheap, ineffective imitation of Jim Harbaugh

[Sherrone Moore] has his blue collar jacket on and he basically was like, Hey, I'm back to work. ... It worked for Jim Harbaugh because Jim Harbaugh had won... This feels like a cheap knockoff and it's not gonna work.

Subjective opinion on coaching style and branding.

If the Bears beat the Saints this weekend, the city of Chicago might actually explode.

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More Takes

Win
Oct 15, 2025
#11492
Big CatBig Cat

Indiana is going 12-0

America, be ready and maybe have a sit down and have a conversation with your children... about 12 and oh Indiana, because Indiana is so fucking good. Indiana is gonna go 12 and Oh get prepared.

Indiana went even better than 12-0, finishing the regular season 13-0 and going 15-0 overall to win the national championship. Big Cat undersold it if anything.
Push
PFT CommenterPFT Commenter

The World Cup draw will be rigged for the United States

If anyone could pull it off, Trump doesn't care about soccer. Oh he does. He he's, he took the ball from FIFA. He's been bragging to everybody about how he got the World Cup. Make that happen buddy. Iceland is the smallest country to qualify for the World cup.

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The 2026 World Cup draw (December 2025) gave the USA a favorable Group D with Paraguay, Australia, and a European playoff winner. Conspiracy theorists rejoiced.
Void
Oct 15, 2025
#25727
Big CatBig Cat

Baseball teams should celebrate every playoff series win, regardless of prestige

I'm a big believer in celebrate everything. I know people get upset about it, but it's like the baseball season is so long you have to celebrate the ride. You don't know where your next celebration's gonna be. ... I'm a celebrate everything guy.

Open
Oct 15, 2025
#11506
Matt LeinartMatt Leinart

CJ Carr will be a top-five draft pick

CJ Carr's a stud. I think that this dude's gonna be a top five pick in the next couple years. So if you do take away the run now you gotta deal with the pass. That's something they didn't have to do last week.

CJ Carr is a true freshman in 2024/2025; his draft status is years away.
Win
Oct 15, 2025
#11507
Matt LeinartMatt Leinart

Indiana is a legitimate threat to make the College Football Playoff at 11-1

[Indiana] guys... they, they might make the college football playoff dude. Their schedule's awesome. They'll be 11 and one. And if they lose to [Ohio State] in the Big 10... whatever it is, they, it's like, it's like what SMU was able to do last year.

Indiana finished the regular season 11-1 and successfully made the College Football Playoff.

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